can puppy help to install an other distro on usb stick

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can puppy help to install an other distro on usb stick

#1 Post by slackfan »

for ex. septor 2019 made from Debian SID with fresh applications of interesting software

using grub4dos or equivalent bootmanager?

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Mike Walsh
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#2 Post by Mike Walsh »

@ slackfan:-

If it was me, I would install this OS to its own drive. Allow it to set GRUB2 up as the default bootloader. I would then set up an entry in Puppy's Grub4DOS bootloader to 'chainload' across to it, i.e. pass control from one bootloader to another.

Grub4DOS can boot Debian/Ubuntu-based distros, but in all honesty it's a darned sight simpler to boot them with the application they were always intended to use. The trouble with GRUB2 being that it wants to take over control for booting everything on the drive.....and in 'frugal' format, at least, GRUB2 doesn't, in the normal course of things, even 'see' Puppy (not unless you seriously modify the GRUB2 boot entries to compensate for this).

No doubt other advice will be forthcoming.


Mike. :wink:
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#3 Post by bigpup »

It says it is a iso package that is made to be installed as a live CD.

In Puppy you could use Unetbootin to install it to a USB flash drive. Follow the procedure for you supply the iso.
Or anyother program that can run in Linux designed to install iso's to a USB flash drive.

Maybe just open the Septor 2019 iso in the Rox file manager.
Copy all the files onto a USB flash drive.
Making it a live usb install.

They sure do not provide any install info on their Sourceforge page.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#4 Post by bigpup »

In Bionicpup64 7.9.8

I downloaded Unetbootin from Unetbootin web site.
It downloads as a single bin file.
Give it exec permissions.
Left click on it to run it.
It keeps asking for a missing mtools.
So I downloaded and installed mtools from Puppy Package Manager.
Now happy to run.

Using Unetbootin.
I installed Septor 2019 iso to a 32GB USB flash drive.
This iso is big, so it may seem like nothing is going on but give it time to complete.

When booting the Unetbootin boot loader gives several options. So may need to try different ones to get it booted.
Depends on your computer setup.

I got it to boot to the Septor boot menu and selected the live boot.
It booted to a Septor desktop and seemed to be working.
But after some time, it started giving out of disk space error messages and it locked up.

You sure this is ready for release?

I am not impressed.
A 2GB iso.

I bet you could do everything it does, in a Puppy version, and it would be very much smaller.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#5 Post by rcrsn51 »

I do my big-boy-Linux ISOs using ISObooter in "splashscreen" mode.

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mostly to mention veracrypt -- last paragraph in post

#6 Post by mikeslr »

bigpup wrote: I bet you could do everything it does, in a Puppy version, and it would be very much smaller.
Ditto. Included packages per its website: Linux Kernel 4.19 Plasma 5.14.3
Software Management: Synaptic, GDebi
Internet: Tor Browser, Thunderbird, Ricochet IM, HexChat, QuiteRSS, OnionShare
Utilities: Gufw, Konsole, Ark, Image Writer, Bootiso, Sweeper, KGpg, Kleopatra, MAT, KWallet, VeraCrypt
Graphics / Multimedia: GIMP, Gwenview. VLC, K3b, Guvcview
Office: LibreOffice, Kontact, КOrganizer, Okular, Kwrite, Kate

Has KDE as window manager, hence bloat. There's at least on 'old' Puppy if you insist on that. But if your satisfied with K-applications, they're available as AppImages and SFS's which can be used by some Puppies. Tor you'll find in the Additional Software Section. Or just download from publisher and setup.

OnionShare is an open source tool that lets you securely and anonymously share a file of any size. Puppy has alternatives. But if you insist, there are packages in the Xenial and later Ubuntu Repos and at pkgs.org.

One interesting application mentioned is veracrypt. This is supposedly the heir to truecrypt, available for Puppy, but no longer maintained. There are packages at the veracrypt website, including one where only sse can be used. But the packages download as installers. Will have to experiment.

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