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#91 Post by killapup »

minesadorada said,
I just installed slacko to replace puppy 529 because to be honest, it seemed slicker and better.

But one problem.

I have a wireless WPA2 router which connected fine with 529 but refuses to connect in slack.
Did you get a resolution for this problem? I'm only new to the forum and to Puppy so I've just found your query and it seems to have no response.

I've had the same problem but was able to fix it by setting my wifi to WPA/WPA2 rather than just WPA2 and haven't had a problem since. Hope you have already found a solution, if not, I hope that helps, cheers,

Ray

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#92 Post by fobq »

hi,
what does the diagram show on the left hand from the clock on the system tray?
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#93 Post by rufwoof »

what does the diagram show on the left hand from the clock on the system tray?
Its xload - which shows the proportion of CPU being used. Its actually showing the number of processes (or threads) that want to use the cpu and therefore varies between 0 and infinity, rather than 0 and 1. This is why it changes scale, and you can get a whole lot of white horizontal lines to indicate the change (when that happens and you aren't running any intensive program(s), it could means that the cpu is being heavily used - which could mean that something might be hogging the CPU - perhaps due to an error. Restarting X or even rebooting usually fixes such problems).

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#94 Post by TwoPuppies »

Hi Lobster.

I just clicked on the link "Jesse Smith Review" right at the beginning of this thread, and ended up here:
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue ... 67#feature
This not a review, but just a collection of comments.
I guess the original review to which they refer has now vanished.

I've had a bit of a hunt around, and the review itself seems to be here instead:
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue ... 12#feature

Just thought you might like to know.
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#95 Post by Pelo »

Beginners using Puppy, not building it again. 5.3.3 is really a nice Puppy, full featured and able to run in RAM in computers not so old, and the newest ones too, up to windows 8
(it's easier to categorize computers by the Windows version, isn'it ?)

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#96 Post by Lobster »

Thanks everyone 8)
Have been updating :oops: this info. Go to first post in this thread :D

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#97 Post by FriendlyIce »

Hey, just don't want to create new thread :p. So I will try ask it here :p. I have an old laptop with like no space. And I want to run Linux on USB thro that old laptop. Why I need linux is only to use protonVPN, filezilla maybe and download some files from internet. But I need everything it on my USB Stick. So I want to install Linux and save information on my stick. I know how to install it, but is that information will be automaticaly saved on my stick and next time when I run it I will found it?
And next question which linux to choose? Bionic? Xenial? Slacko? Tahrpup? I just need a lightweight linux for that some programs and files :).
Waiting for any answer and information. Thank you totally.

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#98 Post by mikeslr »

Hi FriendlyIce,

Every Puppy will happily 'live' exclusively on a USB-Stick, booting from it, saving data files and changes back to it, totally ignoring --if you want-- the existence of the hard-drives of the computer into which the USB-Stick was plugged and booted. And with an 'old' --at least for now-- computer you don't have to worry about overcoming UEFI booting restrictions.

But there's always a catch. New Puppies may not have the drivers and firmware required to make use of an old computers hardware --little things like builtin wifi adapters, sound-cards, keyboards, monitors. And to function adequately, new Puppies may require more RAM than the computer has. On the other hand, old Puppies may not be able to run reasonably current Web-browsers and openssl required by current Websites. And I don't know if protonVPN may require some 'infrastructure' absent from older Puppies.

If you want accurate advice ALWAYS TELL US YOUR COMPUTERS SPECS: Computer name, model and amount of RAM if nothing else; graphics card and wifi adapter if possible. 'Old computer' isn't good enough.

That said, I'd suggest dpup-stretch as a reasonably good gamble that you won't be wasting your time setting it up. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 590#974590: an Up-to-date Puppy about which there have been several reports of it functioning well on 'old computers'. Again, note what I wrote about protonVPN as dPup-stretch is only a 32-bit operating system. That shouldn't make a difference. But, I can't tell you that the people at protoVPN didn't think it does and precluded their use.

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#99 Post by charlane_meyer »

mikeslr wrote:Hi FriendlyIce,

Every Puppy will happily 'live' exclusively on a USB-Stick, booting from it, saving data files and changes back to it, totally ignoring --if you want-- the existence of the hard-drives of the computer into which the USB-Stick was plugged and booted. And with an 'old' --at least for now-- computer you don't have to worry about overcoming UEFI booting restrictions.

But there's always a catch. New Puppies may not have the drivers and firmware required to make use of an old computers hardware --little things like builtin wifi adapters, sound-cards, keyboards, monitors. And to function adequately, new Puppies may require more RAM than the computer has. On the other hand, old Puppies may not be able to run reasonably current Web-browsers and openssl required by current Websites. And I don't know if protonVPN may require some 'infrastructure' absent from older Puppies.

If you want accurate advice ALWAYS TELL US YOUR COMPUTERS SPECS: Computer name, model and amount of RAM if nothing else; graphics card and wifi adapter if possible. 'Old computer' isn't good enough.

That said, I'd suggest dpup-stretch as a reasonably good gamble that you won't be wasting your time setting it up. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 590#974590: an Up-to-date Puppy about which there have been several reports of it functioning well on 'old computers'. Again, note what I wrote about protonVPN as dPup-stretch is only a 32-bit operating system. That shouldn't make a difference. But, I can't tell you that the people at protoVPN didn't think it does and precluded their use.
Hello. Real new to Linux....well, as far as setting it up anyway. I downloaded Bluetooth BlueZ 5.54 and extracted it to a sub-directory "bluetooth" of "root". I tried the instructions in Janky but my files are not getting found. i do not know how to go about entering "systemclt" after the sudo command because my system is not finding it from terminal. In the Janky instructions, I get:

[NEW] Controller 00:15:83:15:A3:10 BlueZ 5.38 [default]

well how is this found? I just have a WIFI card but there is reference to bluetooth in my bios with a wireless switch and also for WWAN and WLAN. Just no separate bluetooth card.

I tried the commands thereafter and these work except for the last command of:

[bluetooth]# power on

that this is not working naturally. I looked at Youtube, my goto for answers, and that was how I got to entering "systemctl" in the first place, this not working either.

A little direction would be appreciated. Thank you kindly.

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#100 Post by charlane_meyer »

Yeah, when I type in:

apt-get install bluetooth

I am not quite sure how the cd works for sub-directory change.

I get command not found. FYI, i was die-hard DOS in the past and I am making some subtle connections like with Grub. This appears to be some type of path issue I think. I have looked in directories and am not connecting the dots yet.

I have no sound coming from my laptop either.

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#101 Post by mikeslr »

Puppy Linux 64x 8.0 -- which I take to mean Bionicpup64_8.0. Always specify which Puppy. I won't frighten you with the number of Puppies published in over a decade. But they are all different, available and someone's likely to still run them. Currently there are about 30 active versions. Each has its own thread, such as http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 69#1004969. Employing the EXACT name used in its thread avoids confusion.
apt-get > I get command not found.
Dell Laptop E6430 > I have no sound coming from my laptop either.

Although Binary compatible with Ubuntu Bionic Beaver and having access to Ubuntu repos, Bionicpup64 is not Ubuntu. It does not use apt-get, nor synaptic.

For applications not included, first try Menu>Setup>Quickpet. Quickpet may also have an launcher on the Desktop. Applications via Quickpet are usually built to work with the offering Puppy OOTB.

2nd place to look: http://wellminded.net63.net/ plug in the application and the name --such as Bionicpup64-- to see if someone has already built it, or has experience with it.

Menu>Setup>Puppy Package Manager has a search box and provides direct access to Puppy's own and Ubuntu's repositories. It can be configured to download and install not only an application, but also any dependencies. It is good, but --when accessing Ubuntu's repos-- not perfect. Hence, this is mentioned after a Wellminded Search which may alert you to problems, configurations, work-arounds and ultimate failures.

When in doubt about an application, post questions to the thread of a specific Puppy; the specific application if it has its own thread -- see the Additional Software Section of the Forum-- or the User's Section.

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#102 Post by charlane_meyer »

mikeslr wrote:Puppy Linux 64x 8.0 -- which I take to mean Bionicpup64_8.0. Always specify which Puppy. I won't frighten you with the number of Puppies published in over a decade. But they are all different, available and someone's likely to still run them. Currently there are about 30 active versions. Each has its own thread, such as http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 69#1004969. Employing the EXACT name used in its thread avoids confusion.
apt-get > I get command not found.
Dell Laptop E6430 > I have no sound coming from my laptop either.

Although Binary compatible with Ubuntu Bionic Beaver and having access to Ubuntu repos, Bionicpup64 is not Ubuntu. It does not use apt-get, nor synaptic.

For applications not included, first try Menu>Setup>Quickpet. Quickpet may also have an launcher on the Desktop. Applications via Quickpet are usually built to work with the offering Puppy OOTB.

2nd place to look: http://wellminded.net63.net/ plug in the application and the name --such as Bionicpup64-- to see if someone has already built it, or has experience with it.

Menu>Setup>Puppy Package Manager has a search box and provides direct access to Puppy's own and Ubuntu's repositories. It can be configured to download and install not only an application, but also any dependencies. It is good, but --when accessing Ubuntu's repos-- not perfect. Hence, this is mentioned after a Wellminded Search which may alert you to problems, configurations, work-arounds and ultimate failures.

When in doubt about an application, post questions to the thread of a specific Puppy; the specific application if it has its own thread -- see the Additional Software Section of the Forum-- or the User's Section.
Thank you! I have it in my head....BionicPup64, and will go to search these areas.

Charlane
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#103 Post by charlane_meyer »

Ok not happening. I don't care about bluetooth anymore because my sound is getting turned off and no matter how many times I reinstall BionicPup64 and I am not seeing it in the above links. At least not yet. Trying to get Janky to do anything is like pulling teeth. I get a response from the command "agent KeyboardOnly" and "default-agent", but "power on" gets nowhere that no controller is loaded (Bluez) and I have installed it before and still got nowhere. I am trying to acclimate to the forum search engine and I am not finding any prior experiences that I can glean from. All comments welcome.

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