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mash

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Jun 2020, 18:51    Post subject:  

mikeslr: thanks for suggestion, I will try that.

And BUILD_FROM_WOOF='HEAD;cb7ac560c;2019-12-06 22:02:47 +1000' initrd is first to fail for me. I got kernel panic.
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Jun 2020, 19:25    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
@mash & @bigpup

Please try a hybrid install - all the components from 20.01+6 but renamed:
Code:
rename[url]http://www.smokey01.com/peebee/downloads/test/initrd32%20ScPup-19.09+7.tar.xz[/url] 20.01 19.09 *.sfs
and:
replace the initrd.gz with that from 19.09+0

if that install boots with no kernel panic, please swap the initrd.gz for that from 19.09+7:

http://www.smokey01.com/peebee/downloads/test/initrd64%20ScPup64-19.09+7.tar.xz

This worked for me too. Very Happy Very Happy
Replacing the initrd.gz and ScPup64 20.01+6 boots to working desktop.

I went right to using the initrd.gz from ScPup64-19.09+7

Did not try the 32bit version of ScPup 20.01+6.
But, it should give same results, using the initrd.gz from 19.09+7

Did not try other versions initrd.gz's.

Well, I guess I proved the initrd.gz from v19.09+7
works for fixing kernel panic.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Jun 2020, 19:45    Post subject:  

ScPup64 20.01+6
Frugal install using save folder.

No wifi support for my wifi hardware.
Code:
Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8822BE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WiFi adapter [10ec:b822]
• Kernel Driver: r8822beS
• Memory Used: 768.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.19.23/kernel/drivers/staging/rtlwifi/r8822be.ko
• Description: Realtek 802.11n PCI wireless core
• Description: PCI basic driver for rtlwifi
• Description: Realtek 8822BE 802.11n PCI wireless


Have not tried getting the needed firmware as your info pop up suggests.

Not really sure if this is really the best thing to make people have to do.
Realtek seems to have a lot of new hardware people are buying.
Bionicpup64 8.0 had to update needed support for several different newer Realtek hardware.

Update:
Got the needed firmware installed.
Need the kernel driver.
r8822be.ko

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2020, 04:36    Post subject:  

Anyone who wants to check my versions, you can download them here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/a72erhw7pg1f732/initrd-f53e2b980-20191201.gz/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/t04tekv7jh4ih1u/initrd-cb7ac560c-20191206.gz/file

Rename it to initrd.gz and place in the frugal install folder. These are for ScPup64_20.01.
First one should probably work, the second one should fail with kernel panic.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2020, 05:48    Post subject:  

Many thanks for all the testing - seems like we're narrowing it down to something that changed in woof-ce between:

2019-12-01 19:44:38 +1000
& 2019-12-06 22:02:47 +1000

There were many woof-ce commits in this time period:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commits/testing?after=4a32f8f380b9dfb3e7f1b413c9ea6f8fb629846c+272
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commits/testing?after=4a32f8f380b9dfb3e7f1b413c9ea6f8fb629846c+307

however we can probably discount any with rpi: or pMusic: in their title....

looking at:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commits/testing/initrd-progs

tells us there were 5 commits to initrd-progs:
Commits on Dec 6, 2019
initrd: add wait message if partition needs resizing
01micko committed on 6 Dec 2019

init: improve test for boot drive
01micko committed on 6 Dec 2019

Commits on Dec 1, 2019
init: resize the last partition re 5412315 …
01micko committed on 1 Dec 2019

bugfix resize_part
01micko committed on 1 Dec 2019

resize an image file's last partition if it is of type linux
01micko committed on 1 Dec 2019

None shout out to me as being the culprit??

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2020, 06:00    Post subject:  

@mash
@bigpup

are either / both of you booting directly from ssd??

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2020, 07:32    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

Need the kernel driver.
r8822be.ko

The kernel configs for 4.14.160 as shipped have:
# CONFIG_RTL8XXXU is not set

whereas Porteus kernel has:
CONFIG_RTL8XXXU=m
CONFIG_RTL8XXXU_UNTESTED=y
CONFIG_RTW88=m
CONFIG_RTW88_CORE=m
CONFIG_RTW88_PCI=m
CONFIG_RTW88_8822BE=y
CONFIG_RTW88_8822CE=y
# CONFIG_RTW88_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_RTW88_DEBUGFS is not set

The recent 5.4.44 kernel (32 bit) was built with Porteus configs.

The 64-bit 5.4.6 kernel only has
CONFIG_RTL8XXXU=m
# CONFIG_RTL8XXXU_UNTESTED is not set
# CONFIG_RTW88 is not set

whereas the latest 5.7.1 64bit has:
CONFIG_RTL8XXXU=m
CONFIG_RTL8XXXU_UNTESTED=y
CONFIG_RTW88=m
CONFIG_RTW88_CORE=m
CONFIG_RTW88_PCI=m
CONFIG_RTW88_8822BE=y
CONFIG_RTW88_8822CE=y
# CONFIG_RTW88_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_RTW88_DEBUGFS is not set

I'll fix for 20.06 kernel config if we fix "the problem" but in the meantime you could try 5.7.1 or 5.4.44

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2020, 11:06    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
@mash
@bigpup

are either / both of you booting directly from ssd??

I am booting from an internal emmc drive.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2020, 12:43    Post subject:  

Quote:

@mash
@bigpup

are either / both of you booting directly from ssd??


I'm booting from USB flash drive.

If bigpup's machine will boot with that initrd: https://www.mediafire.com/file/a72erhw7pg1f732/initrd-f53e2b980-20191201.gz/file we can narrow it to two commits from 6th December.

Yes, they do not look suspicious.

EDIT:

Well, one of these commits is causing problem.
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='HEAD;266c30cca;2019-12-06 22:00:40 +1000' which is just one commit before them is working.

This is initrd which worked for me:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/op0b95aedxd7rrq/initrd-266c30cca-20191206.gz/file
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2020, 02:34    Post subject:  

For my WIFI problem I tried changing to the 5.7.1 64bit kernel.

No help.

I think I actually need the kernel driver r8822be.ko
in /lib/modules/5.7.1/kernel/drivers......
Several possible places to but it.

If I correctly understand, that driver has to be compiled for the kernel being used.

I am going back to the original kernel for ScPup64 20.01+6
I need a r8822be.ko kernel driver for it.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2020, 03:16    Post subject:  

mash wrote:

This is initrd which worked for me:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/op0b95aedxd7rrq/initrd-266c30cca-20191206.gz/file


I just downloaded that initrd and indeed it doesn't conatin the 'Please wait...' part.. intriguing if that causes the problem!

I could understand if booting off an sdcard .. maybe I'll grab latest scpup and try and boot on my dell laptop which as far as I know supports booting from such. I'll need to use gyro's frgalpup too because I have secure boot enabled, for testing.

@mash. If you click on an initrd.gz in rox filer it opens up at /root so you can edit it easily.Click it again and it can be updated. Maybe worth a shot.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2020, 05:05    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
For my WIFI problem I tried changing to the 5.7.1 64bit kernel.

Hi @bigpup

Googling shows lots of problems with Realtek 8822be .....

One suggestion seen is that the rtw88 driver is the one to use - this is in 5.7.1

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/cvbqem/realtek_rtl8822be_under_linux/
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1806472

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2020, 07:02    Post subject:  

mash wrote:

This is initrd which worked for me:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/op0b95aedxd7rrq/initrd-266c30cca-20191206.gz/file
I find it hard to get my head around the possibility that the contents of the 'init' script could be causing the problem, since it works fine in other machines, including mine.
Yes, I have had a new "init" script cause a kernel panic, but it's always been a syntax error in the script, it would have failed on any hardware.

It might be interesting to take the initrd.gz that works for "mash" and replace the "init" script with the one from the current ScPup64 initrd.gz (that fails), and see if that works.

My 2 cents worth.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2020, 13:11    Post subject:  

Quote:
I find it hard to get my head around the possibility that the contents of the 'init' script could be causing the problem, since it works fine in other machines, including mine

It is not a problem in all computers.
Just some of them.
I have one that boots with no problem.
I have a laptop that it is a problem.
Using an older initrd.gz fixed the problem.
01micko seems to think he knows what may be causing it.
See his above post.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2020, 14:13    Post subject:  

OK, I think I got it. This post should be prepended by Jean-Luc Picard's facepalm.

"The problem" exists only in some circumstances which I describe. I am curious if anyone of you tried to boot from SD card and succeeded because my SD card and/or reader was the case of the problem.

So, the problem exists only on my HP Probook machine that I boot in UEFI native mode and only if I insert SD card before/during boot. Since I use that card to store big SFS files it is almost always present in my built-in reader.

HP Probooks are known to have a little bit faulty UEFI firmware - e.g. you cannot boot from SD card in UEFI mode even if you set it in UEFI/BIOS settings.

Actually reverting this commit: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commit/8eb6e1eb9333de396e2a76ccbee745ce73f08d0b (just edited initrd manually as 01micko wrote) makes problem disappear. So, not waiting text but grep -> tail piping (?).

So for me there are 2 workarounds:
1. remove SD card when booting
2. edit initrd manually from some working puppy

Thanks peebee and 01micko for directing me.
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