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watchdog

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2018, 12:19    Post subject:  

Trying to install some software (64 bit version). I have symbols errors about libicui18n. Mtools-4.0.18 does not compile and a my previous version compiled in slacko64-14.2 does not work. Wxcam does not work, too. I have wasted time to install my brother laser printer: slackware does not support foomatic. I have solved with alien packages ending to reuse the expired 64bitinstaller by rcrsn51.
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Terry H

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2018, 14:37    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

I think you only need one iwlwifi ucode for each Intel device.
As long as it is the latest version of that ucode, it should work for all devices of that model number.


As peebee said it's a bit of a nightmare. The problem here is in trying to cater for new and old kernels. The kernels will do a search starting at a firmware version then cycle back, depending on the kernel a variable number of times (I had between 3 and 8 attempts) looking for appropriate firmware. Version 17 will work for current kernels being used (4.9.x > 4.19.x), it may be out of range for earlier kernels.

I ran a lot of tests back in April for a ilwifi-7265, so similar issues with firmware versions, to determine firmware versions required by various kernels. At that time I tested kernels between 3.18.x to 4.15.x.
Link to earlier testing.
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2018, 22:30    Post subject:  

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The problem here is in trying to cater for new and old kernels.

Why try to do that.
Just support the kernel that is going to be in the ScPup release.

Kernel Release: 4.19.12 is what is in this ScPup64 19.01.
If I understand all you are saying.
The firmware needs to be for that kernel
Anyway, I got the iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode from Bionicpu64 7.9.7 and put it in /lib/firmware.

That fixed my Intel 7260 wifi controller.

Posting this from ScPup64 using that wifi controller.

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Terry H

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2018, 23:38    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

Kernel Release: 4.19.12 is what is in this ScPup64 19.01.
If I understand all you are saying.
The firmware needs to be for that kernel


No, regarding iwlwifi firmware specifically, wifi will only work if the kernel finds firmware within a a set range of versions.
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watchdog

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jan 2019, 11:20    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:
Trying to install some software (64 bit version). I have symbols errors about libicui18n. <cut>
Wxcam does not work, too.


Reverting to icu4c-56.1-x86_64-2.txz wxcam works.
I also have a working mtools-4.0.23 built from an alien package. It's a mistery that mtools-4.0.18 compiled in slacko64-700-RC3 does not work.
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peebee


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2019, 05:18    Post subject:  

New versions:
ScPup-19.01+0-uefi-T
ScPup64-19.01+0-uefi-T

sfs and savefiles/folders names fixed
Different kernels
Updated Woof-CE
New fdrv with iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Jan 2019, 11:50    Post subject: +1  

32-bit
7b3b8fc83d0448e2379ccd34a851566f ScPup-19.01+1-uefi-T.iso

{delta update} - must be applied to the base ScPup-19.01+0-uefi-T.iso with md5 checksum 61e86ef2b629c16601de16c608275393

Updates are cumulative - only the most recent needs to be applied.

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64 bit
fd5fa489445f2a9123a350e079ac9cce ScPup64-19.01+1-uefi-T.iso

{delta update} - must be applied to the base ScPup64-19.01+0-uefi-T.iso with md5 checksum c6df4031b279cc2c5346b9b75791fa81

Updates are cumulative - only the most recent needs to be applied.

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artsown

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2019, 14:17    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal to HD of the +1 update of the 64 bit version. The color scheme
is great! The only problem I've noticed is that Psync doesn't report the time
adjustments it makes. It looks kinda like it makes no adjustments at all.

With slacko 6.9.9.9 I was able to install qpdfview but it can't be found
in the repos.
Edit: Managed to get slackware64-14.2-extra (and others) added in PPM
and now have qpdfview installed.

Another thing I miss is the right-click-run-in-terminal feature phil has in
his creations, and (IIRC) you have in some of yours.

Was glad to see you doing this 64 bit slackopup version.

Art

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2019, 15:29    Post subject: icons  

I am trying out a frugal install on hd of ScPup64+1 on a i5 laptop.
It works nicely. Looks like a classic modern Puppy.
I've always liked the feel of slacko and this definitely has that feel.

I only have one thing to report now.
The desktop icons for the partitions pile up in 1 place. There is the first partition, and then on the spot of the second partition a pile of all other partitions.
This also happens on your Bionic Pup.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2019, 05:31    Post subject:  

artsown wrote:
Another thing I miss is the right-click-run-in-terminal feature phil has in his creations, and (IIRC) you have in some of yours.

Hi Art - I can see that this feature is missing - but I can't work out what needs to be added to the build to activate it - anybody got any ideas??

psync seems to work ok for me....

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2019, 05:34    Post subject: Re: icons  

foxpup wrote:
The desktop icons for the partitions pile up in 1 place.

Hi foxpup

I don't see this with a pristine frugal install - have you made any theme changes or icon layout changes? I have seen reports that some values of icon separation cause the problem you are seeing.

Can you try a pristine frugal install please and let me know if it has the problem?

What are the dimensions of your screen?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2019, 08:48    Post subject:  

@peebee
Concerning psync, it does not report the offset (the amount of correction
it had to make), so my quick usual way of testing cannot be done. My
usual way is to run psync twice to make sure that the offset the second
time is extremely small (on the order of a millisecond).

So I tried setting the system time in the BIOS off by a half hour or so,
and psync did correct the time. But I sure do miss the offset info, and
I think some users need accurate offset info for certain purposes.

Art
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2019, 14:59    Post subject:  

I've remembered how the right clicks are added to UPup - it's via the ydrv...

The same ydrv (renamed) can be added to ScPup but there will be some menu entries that don't work due to missing apps.

Renamed .sfs are attached.

I'll put the requested "Run in Terminal" into the next builds.

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psync - was reimplemented in Woof-CE fairly recently - needs a Woof-CE change request raising
ydrv_ScPup_19.01.sfs-false.gz
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2019, 17:04    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
have you made any theme changes or icon layout changes? I have seen reports that some values of icon separation cause the problem you are seeing.

Can you try a pristine frugal install please and let me know if it has the problem?

What are the dimensions of your screen?
Hi peebee

I have a i5 lenovo laptop with a 15inch (507x285 millimeters) screen with 1920x1080 pixels.

I restarted with pfix=ram and looked systematically for the culprit. I do have some minor tweaks like increasing font size one level.
But it is a change in Rox that causes the pile of icons:
I set the icon grid step of the pinboard behaviour to coarse (from fine). It is easier to align icons on the desktop.
The pile also happens with icon grid step Medium.
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jan 2019, 05:43    Post subject:  

foxpup wrote:
But it is a change in Rox that causes the pile of icons:
I set the icon grid step of the pinboard behaviour to coarse (from fine).
The pile also happens with icon grid step Medium.

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/issues/1311

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