Fatdog64-800 Alpha / Beta [20 Dec 2018] [CLOSED]

[Acodin]

@Step

here is zipped bugreport tarball

During the creation of the report this information popped up repeatedly:
'can't get device qualifier/debug decriptor: resource temporarily unavaible'

First, I tried to boot it on the 4gb ram, then I took out one ram dice and run bugreport.sh

Please help me :< !

[belham2]

[Update from my earlier post]

Is anyone else having problems with Seamonkey in Fatdog-800 and activating or even downloading "ADD-ONs"?


I cannot get any of them to work. I cannot even get Seamonkey to search for, let alone download, ADD-ONs.

I've even re-installed it just now, left it in pristine state, and it is still doing the same thing. I think the Fatdog-800.iso download (from nluug) was fine because the md5.sum checked out.

Sooo....not sure what is going on....first time I have ever seen this in a browser. I believe it is also causing problems as I am here at the murga-linux forum, and it is logging me in and out randomly as I try to post and/or look around the forum (I PM'd Flash in case it is something else/worse).


Was this edition of Seamonky compiled by the Fatdog-Team? The reason I ask is that there are "Add-Ons" already included with the Seamonkey that I did not put there and/or download.

Here's some pics showing how Seamonkey is refusing to activate the add-ons included by the Fatdog Team, nor can I Search, nor can you click anywhere in this screen. It is just dead. Notice the missing "Icons" at the left for 'Extensions" and "Appearance"......


Something is haywire here [/u]

[mavrothal]

Tried 800a on a macbook pro retina (2015) and is a very Mac-friendly linux distribution! Certainly the best of pups and pup-likes. Interrupts are suppressed, the wl modules provides wifi, suspension and wakeup on lid closure works, touchpad is fine and only the camera is not recognized as it needs an off tree module and firmware. It still fails to mount hfsplus volumes but maybe it’s better that way.

A couple of bugs
The OS is setting Xft.dpi to 168 to compensate for the high pixel density of the screen and this messes up the control panel. Specifically, the first row of the Desktop tab does not work! Is OK in other tabs as is the second row of the Desktop tab!!! Unfortunately the screen resolution applets are in the first row. This bug is not affected by the actual screen resolutions. ie happens in lower resolutions too.

The second bug appears to be mac specific as F10-12 keys are not recognized. xev shows nothing on them, while showkey maps the to keycodes 113-115 and xmodmap shows left, right, end. sven is also indifferent to these keys though with any modifier key, correctly recognizes them as volume control keys (but still does not work for volume control). Trying to reassign them from ~/.Xmodmap to XF86Audio keys has no effect.

BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

Code: Select all

BACKLIGHT=$(cat /sys/class/leds/smc::kbd_backlight/brightness)
INCREMENT=15
SET_VALUE=0

case $1 in
    up)
        TOTAL=`expr $BACKLIGHT + $INCREMENT`
        if [ $TOTAL -gt "255" ]; then
            exit 1
        fi
        SET_VALUE=1
        ;;
    down)
        TOTAL=`expr $BACKLIGHT - $INCREMENT`
        if [ $TOTAL -lt "0" ]; then
            exit 1
        fi
        SET_VALUE=1
        ;;
    *)
        echo "Use: keyboard-light up|down"
        ;;
esac

if [ $SET_VALUE -eq "1" ]; then
    echo $TOTAL > /sys/class/leds/smc::kbd_backlight/brightness
fi

Add the mbpfan daemon and is good to go.

Pretty good for a beta!

[SFR]

I'm not sure if this is the right thread. I have a huge problem with fatdog. When I put in 3gb of ram it hangs during use, and when I put in 4gb it stops running. He stuck at 'booting the kernel'. On one 2gb memory card all is well. They are checked with a memtest w/o errors. When I changed the kernel from 4.14.10 to 4.7.1, it stopped hanging, but it started to reset at the same point. He fell into the loop. This happens with both version 721 and 800. Please, help me, I've been fighting this for a very long time, I really want to show you my project.

Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?
___________

Same issues I have had with previous fatdogs - 5 minute + boot times.

I think I read of a solution, but I don't have it at hand.

Initrd-nano?
___________

Here's some pics showing how Seamonkey is refusing to activate the add-ons included by the Fatdog Team, nor can I Search, nor can you click anywhere in this screen. It is just dead. Notice the missing "Icons" at the left for 'Extensions" and "Appearance"...... )

Yeah, the entire Add-ons Manager seems nonfunctional down here, too...

Greetings!

[belham2]

Some possible recommendations to make Fatdog-800 more complete.

Best shown by a picture:

1) this should have been mandatory, and maybe I overlooked it, but please include SFR's "firetray" that will show an icon in the tray that the firewall is activated and running. I grabbed it from the last time SFR provided a .gz download of this, installed it "Startup", and it works great (see pic below).

2) I am biased I know, but maybe include redshift in the iso (I installed the 64-bit version from the versions I put together and posted in "Utilities" last year). That way, a person has both screen warmth and brightness (with a slider) included at their fingertips, and it is in the tray no less. (again, see pic below)

3) Also, possibly include in the iso a "respectable" screenshot shooter instead of the horrendous mtpaint.snapshot, lol? I installed TakeaShot (from various 64-bit pups), and it works a treat in Fatdog-800. Plus, it is light years better than mtpaint.snapshot. (takeashot used to take the pic below)

[CatDude]

Hi

@ SFR and belham2

It looks like it requires something that is inside of the devx. (see pics below)

Hope this helps
CatDude
.

P.S I always ride with the devx loaded

[jamesbond]

@mavrothal:
0. Tried 800a on a macbook pro retina (2015) and is a very Mac-friendly linux distribution!

That's a very nice compliment, coming from a Mac person

1. A couple of bugs
The OS is setting Xft.dpi to 168 to compensate for the high pixel density of the screen and this messes up the control panel. Specifically, the first row of the Desktop tab does not work! Is OK in other tabs as is the second row of the Desktop tab!!! Unfortunately the screen resolution applets are in the first row. This bug is not affected by the actual screen resolutions. ie happens in lower resolutions too.

I'll see if we can reproduce this and fix it.

2. BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

I can certainly put the script inside. How does one activate the script?

3. Add the mbpfan daemon and is good to go.

mbpfan is built-in. All you need is to activate it. In fact, it should be activated automatically, but I have a bug in starting it up. It will be fixed on next release.


@p310don:
Same issues I have had with previous fatdogs - 5 minute + boot times.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... nitrd.html
Or if you boot from the original ISO, choose the last item - boot for slow BIOSes. As belham2 has pointed out, it makes boot time a lot more reasonable.

@belham2:
@SFR:
Yeah, the entire Add-ons Manager seems nonfunctional down here, too...

I cannot reproduce this. This is how I test
- sandbox.sh
- inside sandbox, I typed "rm -rf /home/spot/.mozilla")
- then inside sandbox I typed "seamonkey-spot".
- I can look for add ons, and in fact for testing I search for "ublock", I found "silent block", installed it, and it worked.
- I repeated this a couple of times and it works.

EDIT: as Catdude says - with devx loaded, all is good. I also always load devx so not aware of this problem until now.
EDIT: or nls.sfs. I think this is related to our cutdown version of libicu.
EDIT: It's definitely libicu. For a workaround, please install "libicu-full" using gslapt.

@belham2:
Was this edition of Seamonky compiled by the Fatdog-Team? The reason I ask is that there are "Add-Ons" already included with the Seamonkey that I did not put there and/or download.

Answer: Yes, we built it. Those add-ons are the ones we include by default.

@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR

@belham2:
include redshift

Not a bad idea. At 126K I think we can afford it. I built it but never use it - does come with a GUI or do we need to get another GUI?

@belham2:
a "respectable" screenshot shooter

It's already there. Read: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/keys.html especially the part about PrintScreen key

[LateAdopter]

Hello Jamesbond and kirk
Just checking in to say thanks for this.

It's working properly on my Athlon II X2 240. No problems to report.

I have Vivaldi 2.1 running from an SFS of /opt/vivaldi that I made. I'm using it now.

Thanks again.

[SFR]

@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR

Well, it's been included since 720 IIRC (/etc/xdg/Startup/firetray).
Control Panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs -> System startup programs -> firetray.

@belham2:
include redshift

Not a bad idea. At 126K I think we can afford it. I built it but never use it - does come with a GUI or do we need to get another GUI?

The one on the screenshot is redshiftgui, not redshift.
It requires IUP to build: https://sourceforge.net/projects/iup.
I built it at some point in 721 (even have a recipe with some fixes of mine, attached), but not using it anymore.
It's 451K compressed.
But I think I've seen, here on the forums, a GUI for redshift, the one we have in repo.

Greetings!

[jamesbond]

Hello Jamesbond and kirk
Just checking in to say thanks for this.

And SFR and step too You're most welcome.

[jamesbond]

@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR

Well, it's been included since 720 IIRC (/etc/xdg/Startup/firetray).
Control Panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs -> System startup programs -> firetray.

LOL
That's the problem with having too many features. Even I forgot that it's already there. That's one more item for the FAQ.

It's 451K compressed.

That's way too big. I'd check your attached redshift-gui script and see how it goes.

@belham2: as a workaround, you need to install libicu-full from the repo (using gslapt).

cheers!

[mavrothal]

2. BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

I can certainly put the script inside. How does one activate the script?

I guess you can check for the applesmc module ("lsmod | grep applesmc" or similar) and add it to the sven key_config file by
"[237:0]
type=cmd
enable=1
description=keyboard backlight down
command=/usr/local/bin/keyboard-backlight.sh down
comment=

[238:0]
type=cmd
enable=1
description=keyboard backlight up
command=/usr/local/bin/keyboard-backlight.sh up
comment=
"

[belham2]

[quote="jamesbond"] and [quote="sfr"] and all,

Ok, I am now vowing to shut myself up when it comes to testing new Fatdogs and go at least one day before posting here. In my defense, I was sort of excited to wake up and see 800 was released (and on npluug---came so fast I barely got a couple of sips of coffee before I was off & away on the 800 train)..

So, anyway, sorry, SFR, not sure how I missed the "firetray' toggle in ControlPanel-->Desktop--->
ManageDesktopSettings Thank you...... Also, thanks for the redshiftgui---yeah, my pic in my other post is of the "gui" one, which works good, but still.......I unloaded & removed it, downloaded yours, and it works too. I would rather stick to stuff you guys make instead of what I cobble together.

Jamesbond, thanks for tip/trick on the Seamonkey add-ons....got what I want and working now using your instructions. This one really had stumped me. Couldn't figure out how you guys got add-ons on there when I was having trouble doing it.


Overall, this is really a nice Fatdog release, especially since you all call it an "Alpha". I mean, if some heavy-handed person like me who's banging away on it, installing and removing stuff, re-installing, etc, etc hasn't crashed it yet over these past 3 hours.....well, it's pretty darn rock-stable.

But, alas, give me time, lol, I am a menace to myself. Got lots of chess and other games to go to load, so that I can make it like me other Fatdoggies. Then some Steam and Virtualbox maybe (if that's a possibility


Thank you all again.


P.S. Have installed several things using Gslapt (like LxTerminal and other things), and all has been good with no problems on anything.

[jamesbond]

I guess you can check for the applesmc module

Done.

Can you please check, when you boot 800 on MBP (withoust savefile), did you get /etc/init.d/15-mbpfan enabled? If yes, is the mbpfan running?
I just checked my code again, mbpfan should work already.

Thanks!

[Acodin]

Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?

No matter that is cd, usb or sda - happens the same thing. I'm using syslinux bootloader from fatdog installer.

Thank you for your interest in my problem in this vortex of excitement.

I would like to add that the problem occurs on the Internet, but I still don't know how to fix that.

[mavrothal]

I guess you can check for the applesmc module

Done.

Can you please check, when you boot 800 on MBP (withoust savefile), did you get /etc/init.d/15-mbpfan enabled? If yes, is the mbpfan running?
I just checked my code again, mbpfan should work already.

Thanks!

You are right. It does work (I forgot that fd's ps has the standard behavior )

Regarding modules and drivers, how likely (1-10) is for the kernel to change till 800 final?

Another little thing. Booting a VM for first time from an ISO it still picked the fd64save from an old install at the root of the partition. No major issues (as the savefile was relatively clean) but if this is not recommended you might want to safeguard against it.

[quirkian2new]

Just downloaded 800alpha, extracted from the iso the 2 files vmlinuz and initrd and over-write those of FD721 on hard drive.

Reboot and now posting from 800alpha. Glad to see that the extrasfs boot option still remains. I've not done any remaster since the introduction of extrasfs. I put my favrouite browsers (palemoon and min browser) and their config files in an sfs on hard drive and 800alpha loads it naturally.

will test other apps this week end.

Thank you guys for your endless and valuable efforts.

[SFR]

Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?

No matter that is cd, usb or sda - happens the same thing. I'm using syslinux bootloader from fatdog installer.

Thank you for your interest in my problem in this vortex of excitement.

I would like to add that the problem occurs on the Internet, but I still don't know how to fix that.

Hmm, you could append loglevel=7 to your bootloader line, so if the kernel starts at all, we could at least see at which point it hangs.
I mean the 4G RAM scenario, where it hangs at boot.

Btw, are you adding RAM to an existing 2G module or replacing it with a single 4G module?
If the former, perhaps the modules are incompatibile with each other in some way..?

Greetings!

[Acodin]

i'm adding 2gb to 2gb.

@edit: attachment

@edit2:

If the former, perhaps the modules are incompatibile with each other in some way..?

I will chech that, but i now have only two 2gb dices. And yes this is possible, because i mix hynix with kingston in both cases (3gb and 4gb). After all, please check my bug report.

Please note that this problem is not new on the internet.

[jamesbond]

Acodin,

Please try adding this to the boot command line:

video=SVIDEO-1:d

And please report back.

EDIT:

@SFR: Ref: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93782. Scroll to the bottom. The fix was posted on 12/13 November (depending on your timezone). That's less than a week ago (https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/52378/).

Acodin has this: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller. The same VGA adapter which is problematic.