Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Fri 14 Dec 2018, 01:34
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Fatdog64-800 Alpha [16 Nov 2018]
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 2 of 12 [168 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 10, 11, 12 Next
Author Message
Acodin

Joined: 15 Nov 2018
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 06:25    Post subject:  

@Step

here is zipped bugreport tarball

During the creation of the report this information popped up repeatedly:
'can't get device qualifier/debug decriptor: resource temporarily unavaible'

First, I tried to boot it on the 4gb ram, then I took out one ram dice and run bugreport.sh

Please help me :< !
bugreport.tar.xz.zip
Description 
zip

 Download 
Filename  bugreport.tar.xz.zip 
Filesize  74.62 KB 
Downloaded  13 Time(s) 
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
belham2

Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1628

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 07:19    Post subject:  

[Update from my earlier post]

Is anyone else having problems with Seamonkey in Fatdog-800 and activating or even downloading "ADD-ONs"?


I cannot get any of them to work. I cannot even get Seamonkey to search for, let alone download, ADD-ONs.

I've even re-installed it just now, left it in pristine state, and it is still doing the same thing. I think the Fatdog-800.iso download (from nluug) was fine because the md5.sum checked out.

Sooo....not sure what is going on....first time I have ever seen this in a browser. I believe it is also causing problems as I am here at the murga-linux forum, and it is logging me in and out randomly as I try to post and/or look around the forum (I PM'd Flash in case it is something else/worse).


Was this edition of Seamonky compiled by the Fatdog-Team
? The reason I ask is that there are "Add-Ons" already included with the Seamonkey that I did not put there and/or download.

Here's some pics showing how Seamonkey is refusing to activate the add-ons included by the Fatdog Team, nor can I Search, nor can you click anywhere in this screen. It is just dead. Notice the missing "Icons" at the left for 'Extensions" and "Appearance"......


Something is haywire here Surprised[/u]
Screenshot1.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   109.2 KB
 Viewed   369 Time(s)

Screenshot1.jpg

Screenshot2.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   114.38 KB
 Viewed   369 Time(s)

Screenshot2.jpg


Last edited by belham2 on Fri 16 Nov 2018, 07:24; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mavrothal


Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Posts: 2990

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 07:24    Post subject:  

Tried 800a on a macbook pro retina (2015) and is a very Mac-friendly linux distribution! Certainly the best of pups and pup-likes. Interrupts are suppressed, the wl modules provides wifi, suspension and wakeup on lid closure works, touchpad is fine and only the camera is not recognized as it needs an off tree module and firmware. It still fails to mount hfsplus volumes but maybe it’s better that way.

A couple of bugs
The OS is setting Xft.dpi to 168 to compensate for the high pixel density of the screen and this messes up the control panel. Specifically, the first row of the Desktop tab does not work! Is OK in other tabs as is the second row of the Desktop tab!!! Unfortunately the screen resolution applets are in the first row. This bug is not affected by the actual screen resolutions. ie happens in lower resolutions too.

The second bug appears to be mac specific as F10-12 keys are not recognized. xev shows nothing on them, while showkey maps the to keycodes 113-115 and xmodmap shows left, right, end. sven is also indifferent to these keys though with any modifier key, correctly recognizes them as volume control keys (but still does not work for volume control). Trying to reassign them from ~/.Xmodmap to XF86Audio keys has no effect.

BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script
Code:
BACKLIGHT=$(cat /sys/class/leds/smc::kbd_backlight/brightness)
INCREMENT=15
SET_VALUE=0

case $1 in
    up)
        TOTAL=`expr $BACKLIGHT + $INCREMENT`
        if [ $TOTAL -gt "255" ]; then
            exit 1
        fi
        SET_VALUE=1
        ;;
    down)
        TOTAL=`expr $BACKLIGHT - $INCREMENT`
        if [ $TOTAL -lt "0" ]; then
            exit 1
        fi
        SET_VALUE=1
        ;;
    *)
        echo "Use: keyboard-light up|down"
        ;;
esac

if [ $SET_VALUE -eq "1" ]; then
    echo $TOTAL > /sys/class/leds/smc::kbd_backlight/brightness
fi

Add the mbpfan daemon and is good to go.

Pretty good for a beta!

_________________
== Here is how to solve your Linux problems fast ==
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
SFR


Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Posts: 1685

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 07:28    Post subject:  

Acodin wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right thread. I have a huge problem with fatdog. When I put in 3gb of ram it hangs during use, and when I put in 4gb it stops running. He stuck at 'booting the kernel'. On one 2gb memory card all is well. They are checked with a memtest w/o errors. When I changed the kernel from 4.14.10 to 4.7.1, it stopped hanging, but it started to reset at the same point. He fell into the loop. This happens with both version 721 and 800. Please, help me, I've been fighting this for a very long time, I really want to show you my project.

Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?
___________

p310don wrote:
Same issues I have had with previous fatdogs - 5 minute + boot times.

I think I read of a solution, but I don't have it at hand.

Initrd-nano?
___________

belham2 wrote:
Here's some pics showing how Seamonkey is refusing to activate the add-ons included by the Fatdog Team, nor can I Search, nor can you click anywhere in this screen. It is just dead. Notice the missing "Icons" at the left for 'Extensions" and "Appearance"...... )

Yeah, the entire Add-ons Manager seems nonfunctional down here, too...

Greetings!

_________________
[O]bdurate [R]ules [D]estroy [E]nthusiastic [R]ebels => [C]reative [H]umans [A]lways [O]pen [S]ource
Omnia mea mecum porto.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
belham2

Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1628

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 07:35    Post subject:  

Some possible recommendations to make Fatdog-800 more complete.

Best shown by a picture:

1) this should have been mandatory, and maybe I overlooked it, but please include SFR's "firetray" that will show an icon in the tray that the firewall is activated and running. I grabbed it from the last time SFR provided a .gz download of this, installed it "Startup", and it works great (see pic below).

2) I am biased I know, but maybe include redshift in the iso (I installed the 64-bit version from the versions I put together and posted in "Utilities" last year). That way, a person has both screen warmth and brightness (with a slider) included at their fingertips, and it is in the tray no less. (again, see pic below)

3) Also, possibly include in the iso a "respectable" screenshot shooter instead of the horrendous mtpaint.snapshot, lol? I installed TakeaShot (from various 64-bit pups), and it works a treat in Fatdog-800. Plus, it is light years better than mtpaint.snapshot. (takeashot used to take the pic below)
Screenshot4.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   117.99 KB
 Viewed   329 Time(s)

Screenshot4.jpg

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
CatDude


Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 1573
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:05    Post subject:  

Hi

@ SFR and belham2

It looks like it requires something that is inside of the devx. (see pics below)

Hope this helps
CatDude
.

P.S I always ride with the devx loaded Wink
sm-no-devx.png
 Description   
 Filesize   154.33 KB
 Viewed   322 Time(s)

sm-no-devx.png

sm-with-devx.png
 Description   
 Filesize   165.84 KB
 Viewed   323 Time(s)

sm-with-devx.png


_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 3186
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:07    Post subject:  

@mavrothal:
0. Tried 800a on a macbook pro retina (2015) and is a very Mac-friendly linux distribution!

That's a very nice compliment, coming from a Mac person Smile

1. A couple of bugs
The OS is setting Xft.dpi to 168 to compensate for the high pixel density of the screen and this messes up the control panel. Specifically, the first row of the Desktop tab does not work! Is OK in other tabs as is the second row of the Desktop tab!!! Unfortunately the screen resolution applets are in the first row. This bug is not affected by the actual screen resolutions. ie happens in lower resolutions too.

I'll see if we can reproduce this and fix it.

2. BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

I can certainly put the script inside. How does one activate the script?

3. Add the mbpfan daemon and is good to go.

mbpfan is built-in. All you need is to activate it. In fact, it should be activated automatically, but I have a bug in starting it up. It will be fixed on next release.


@p310don:
Same issues I have had with previous fatdogs - 5 minute + boot times.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/huge-initrd.html
Or if you boot from the original ISO, choose the last item - boot for slow BIOSes. As belham2 has pointed out, it makes boot time a lot more reasonable.

@belham2:
@SFR:
Yeah, the entire Add-ons Manager seems nonfunctional down here, too...

I cannot reproduce this. This is how I test
- sandbox.sh
- inside sandbox, I typed "rm -rf /home/spot/.mozilla")
- then inside sandbox I typed "seamonkey-spot".
- I can look for add ons, and in fact for testing I search for "ublock", I found "silent block", installed it, and it worked.
- I repeated this a couple of times and it works.

EDIT: as Catdude says - with devx loaded, all is good. I also always load devx so not aware of this problem until now.
EDIT: or nls.sfs. I think this is related to our cutdown version of libicu.
EDIT: It's definitely libicu. For a workaround, please install "libicu-full" using gslapt.

@belham2:
Was this edition of Seamonky compiled by the Fatdog-Team? The reason I ask is that there are "Add-Ons" already included with the Seamonkey that I did not put there and/or download.

Answer: Yes, we built it. Those add-ons are the ones we include by default.

@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR Smile

@belham2:
include redshift

Not a bad idea. At 126K I think we can afford it. I built it but never use it - does come with a GUI or do we need to get another GUI?

@belham2:
a "respectable" screenshot shooter

It's already there. Read: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/keys.html especially the part about PrintScreen key Smile

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread.

Last edited by jamesbond on Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:36; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
LateAdopter

Joined: 27 May 2011
Posts: 306
Location: Reading UK

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:13    Post subject:  

Hello Jamesbond and kirk
Just checking in to say thanks for this.

It's working properly on my Athlon II X2 240. No problems to report.

I have Vivaldi 2.1 running from an SFS of /opt/vivaldi that I made. I'm using it now.

Thanks again.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
SFR


Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Posts: 1685

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:37    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR Smile

Well, it's been included since 720 IIRC (/etc/xdg/Startup/firetray). Smile
Control Panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs -> System startup programs -> firetray.


jamesbond wrote:
@belham2:
include redshift

Not a bad idea. At 126K I think we can afford it. I built it but never use it - does come with a GUI or do we need to get another GUI?

The one on the screenshot is redshiftgui, not redshift.
It requires IUP to build: https://sourceforge.net/projects/iup.
I built it at some point in 721 (even have a recipe with some fixes of mine, attached), but not using it anymore.
It's 451K compressed.
But I think I've seen, here on the forums, a GUI for redshift, the one we have in repo.

Greetings!
redshiftgui-0.2.4-x86_64-1.tar.gz
Description 
gz

 Download 
Filename  redshiftgui-0.2.4-x86_64-1.tar.gz 
Filesize  1.91 KB 
Downloaded  20 Time(s) 

_________________
[O]bdurate [R]ules [D]estroy [E]nthusiastic [R]ebels => [C]reative [H]umans [A]lways [O]pen [S]ource
Omnia mea mecum porto.

Last edited by SFR on Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:38; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 3186
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:37    Post subject:  

LateAdopter wrote:
Hello Jamesbond and kirk
Just checking in to say thanks for this.

And SFR and step too Smile You're most welcome.

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 3186
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:42    Post subject:  

SFR wrote:
jamesbond wrote:
@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR Smile

Well, it's been included since 720 IIRC (/etc/xdg/Startup/firetray). Smile
Control Panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs -> System startup programs -> firetray.


LOL Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
That's the problem with having too many features. Even I forgot that it's already there. That's one more item for the FAQ.

Quote:
It's 451K compressed.

That's way too big. I'd check your attached redshift-gui script and see how it goes.

@belham2: as a workaround, you need to install libicu-full from the repo (using gslapt).

cheers!

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mavrothal


Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Posts: 2990

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:49    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:

2. BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

I can certainly put the script inside. How does one activate the script?

I guess you can check for the applesmc module ("lsmod | grep applesmc" or similar) and add it to the sven key_config file by
"[237:0]
type=cmd
enable=1
description=keyboard backlight down
command=/usr/local/bin/keyboard-backlight.sh down
comment=

[238:0]
type=cmd
enable=1
description=keyboard backlight up
command=/usr/local/bin/keyboard-backlight.sh up
comment=
"

_________________
== Here is how to solve your Linux problems fast ==
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
belham2

Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1628

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 08:59    Post subject:  

[quote="jamesbond"] and [quote="sfr"] and all,

Ok, I am now vowing to shut myself up when it comes to testing new Fatdogs and go at least one day before posting here. In my defense, I was sort of excited to wake up and see 800 was released (and on npluug---came so fast I barely got a couple of sips of coffee before I was off & away on the 800 train)..

So, anyway, sorry, SFR, not sure how I missed the "firetray' toggle in ControlPanel-->Desktop--->
ManageDesktopSettings Rolling Eyes Thank you...... Also, thanks for the redshiftgui---yeah, my pic in my other post is of the "gui" one, which works good, but still.......I unloaded & removed it, downloaded yours, and it works too. I would rather stick to stuff you guys make instead of what I cobble together.

Jamesbond, thanks for tip/trick on the Seamonkey add-ons....got what I want and working now using your instructions. This one really had stumped me. Couldn't figure out how you guys got add-ons on there when I was having trouble doing it.


Overall, this is really a nice Fatdog release, especially since you all call it an "Alpha". I mean, if some heavy-handed person like me who's banging away on it, installing and removing stuff, re-installing, etc, etc hasn't crashed it yet over these past 3 hours.....well, it's pretty darn rock-stable.

But, alas, give me time, lol, I am a menace to myself. Got lots of chess and other games to go to load, so that I can make it like me other Fatdoggies. Then some Steam and Virtualbox maybe (if that's a possibility Smile


Thank you all again.


P.S. Have installed several things using Gslapt ([i]like LxTerminal and other things), and all has been good with no problems on anything.[/i]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 3186
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 09:10    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
I guess you can check for the applesmc module

Done.

Can you please check, when you boot 800 on MBP (withoust savefile), did you get /etc/init.d/15-mbpfan enabled? If yes, is the mbpfan running?
I just checked my code again, mbpfan should work already.

Thanks!

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Acodin

Joined: 15 Nov 2018
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2018, 09:20    Post subject:  

SFR wrote:

Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?


No matter that is cd, usb or sda - happens the same thing. I'm using syslinux bootloader from fatdog installer.

Thank you for your interest in my problem in this vortex of excitement.

I would like to add that the problem occurs on the Internet, but I still don't know how to fix that.

Last edited by Acodin on Fri 16 Nov 2018, 09:49; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 2 of 12 [168 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 10, 11, 12 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.1183s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0065s) ][ GZIP on ]