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musher0 · Last edited by musher0 on Tue 16 Oct 2018, 21:31; edited 3 times in total

(Moved from the "Pic of the day" thread, page 200. What follows tries to
answer the post by a_salty_dogg at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1007219&sort=lastpost#1007219)

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Hello, Flash, a_salty_dogg, and all.

Indeed, Irfanview has no Linux version. But we do have alternatives
that compare:

greengeek

Makoto · Posted: Sat 13 Oct 2018, 06:07 Post subject:

...I just use IrfanView with Wine. Mr. Green

I don't remember if you can associate image files directly with programs running through Wine, though; I've ended up with a habit of opening IV first, then dropping images onto it.

Is XNView Linux still a fairly older version of the program? I have it installed, but aside from being an older program, that the mouse pointer never seems to match up entirely correct with what I'm trying to select does tend to be a little annoying.

perdido · Posted: Sat 13 Oct 2018, 10:47 Post subject:

32-bit version 4.51 works in wine

This is quite nice, guess I should look at windows stuff more often.

Anyone tried to set it up system-wide for file associations one-click open in your favorite file viewer?

Set up irfanview 4.51 in 32-bit wine as default image viewer

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musher0 · Posted: Sat 13 Oct 2018, 11:59 Post subject:

Get a hold of yourselves, guys!

This thread is supposed to promote alternatives to IrfanView on
PuppyLinux. Not boost IrfanView! (hehe)

a_salty_dogg · Joined: 15 Dec 2013 Posts: 181

Thanks for starting this topic on my behalf musher0, appreciated.

However I can't see any any of these programs you mention giving the ability to scroll through a folder of mixed format files, which to me was the unique feature of Irfanview.
I know of course that images can be scrolled in Viewnoir or edited in mtPaint, and videos in something like Avidemux or ffconvert, and batch image edits done via command line, but was very nice to have absolutely everything available in a single GUI and executed at the simple touch of a hotkey command!

I've previously come across and tried a utility called "XnView" which browses and edits image directories in a similar and acceptable way, but won't play any videos in folders, though it does at least see that they exist (though without a thumbnail!) and could be set to export them individually by right-click menu to play in any of Puppy's existing mediaplayers. (Better than nothing, I suppose Smile

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Being that I've survived perfectly well without Irfanview for a decade or more so far and I'll be lucky to see the end of another one, guess I can manage without it. Wink

Anyhow, very small price to pay for for the joy of Puppy!

EDIT - Sorry perdido and Makoto, I really did not enjoy my one experience of playing with WINE, even though it was a very long time ago now (in the late lamented Lighthouse Pup, circa 2009-2010?, which came with an optional extra WINE .sfs). Took an age to get it set up and running, very few Windoze programs would actually work in it after all the effort, and the files it created were HUGE! Basically I'd really rather not go back there.
Out of interest, did you manage to get the necessary Irfanview plug-ins, LAME, codecs, etc, installed and working in Puppy?

perdido · Posted: Sat 13 Oct 2018, 20:39 Post subject:

Hi a_salty_dogg

Maybe take a look at mmview.

A linux based file viewer by mochimoppel, it views a bunch of different formats.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109573

aarrrghh

a_salty_dogg · Joined: 15 Dec 2013 Posts: 181

@ perdido

That's brilliant... really clever yet seems so simple, and everything works integrally and with a lightning quick response!
Many thanks for the pointer.
Must go to bed now but I'll set up a launcher & menu entry, make it default file manager and have a proper play tomorrow.

TyroBGinner · Joined: 30 Mar 2016 Posts: 241

I looked for and tried most of the viewing programs listed, but they were quite inadequate save for xnviewmp, which I run on Ubuntu. It is teriribly buggy! My experience is similar to that mentioned above - the program will not play videos in its internal player (but might if video files are associated with an external player), it will not show video thumbnails for individual files, and oddly it often assigns wrong thumbanils to images and even to files that are not image files. It is maddening, but I can't find anything better, It is good for pdfs and images, save for the incorrect thumbnail assignment bug. And the double-clicking selection feature seems to be the only option.

Irfanview is a fine program, and I always wanted a linux version. It runs quite smoothly in Fatdog using wine. Generally I have had good luck with wine, but I never tried elaborate programs like Microsoft Office.

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TyroBGinner · Joined: 30 Mar 2016 Posts: 241

Thanks for the mention of the "rebuild thumbnails" function. I played with it in the past, but it seemed to have no obvious effect. On closer inspection, it appears to apply only to the selected thumbnail. Strangely, the "select all" function needs to be used to collectively rebuild all the thumbnails in a directory at one time. The program also insists on assigning nonsensical thumbnails to non-media files like html or sfs files. I wonder if others have observed this.

Also, it needs to have better handling of the displaying of entire subtrees. Irfanview is not bad at this, but a more ambitious program like xnview should do better. And the collective drag-and-drop movement of groups of files in the browser window should be improved greatly.

I rigged up a simple group of scripts made to run in rox that allow it to be used as a simple video previewer. It is reasonably effective and somewhat obviates the need for that functionality in xnview.

Makoto · Posted: Mon 15 Oct 2018, 13:16 Post subject:

Hmm. I'll have to see if I can get XnView MP 0.9.2 to run here, and experiment with it. But a ~50MB download just for an all-around imageviewer suite? Shocked

musher0

Hello all.

Re: Presenting JIBS image viewer and sorter for PuppyLinux

If you have a java JRE installed on your Puppy, perhaps as an sfs, you
may wish to try JIBS as an alternative to IrfanView. It's here:
http://img-browse-sort.sourceforge.net/jibs-welcome.shtml

It's rather lightweight (under 600 Kb), considering it's a java app.

And versatile : it allows the user to:
-- view thumbnails in a pictures directory,
-- run a slideshow,
and
-- create convenient contact sheets for fast reference.

One can size the thumbnails by selecting the number of rows and columns
from the menu bar by clicking View -> Thumbnail Options.

One thing I like about JIBS is that, with it, it's hard for me to get lost in
my picture bazaar: at all times, I have the list of pics on the left and the
list of dirs on the right of the picture I am viewing.

You'll find screenshots of JIBS at
http://img-browse-sort.sourceforge.net/jibs-screenShots.shtml,
so no need to include any here.

JIBS docs are found at
http://img-browse-sort.sourceforge.net/tutorial-basics.shtml

Java apps always look spartan, but if you dress up your JIBS in the
"Nimbus skin", it looks better (IMO).

I'm attaching a pet in three parts to abide by the forum regulation on
attachment sizes.

To reassemble, open a console in your download directory and type:

musher0 · Posted: Tue 16 Oct 2018, 08:37 Post subject:

Hello all.

I have found the solution to the viewer bug in newer versions of mtpaint.
Please see here.

IHTH.