/usr/lib/gtkdialog/box_splash and animated gif icons?

[fredx181]

This is the Puppy Precise 5.7.3 gtkdialog-splash, to be renamed without the gz extension, the one that "does the job" and may be used as stand alone script, renamed otherwise so as not to conflict with the one with the same name in /usr/bin directory which refers to box_splash.
Isn't it, sometimes, in old pots that the best soup is made?

Yes. works for me displaying .gif image correctly.
But (as you probably noticed) the -icon_width cannot be set, so depends on the size of the icon how big or small it's displayed AFAIK

Maybe it's possible to have support for resizeable images and also make .gif images display correctly, but... will be difficult, I guess.

Why could it be so difficult?
With a little goodwill, anything is possible!

Okay, better should have said that I personally have no clue how to do it

Fred

[ITSMERSH]

This old (Argolance's) gtkdialog-splash is interesting.

Downloaded and archived!

Thanks!

[MochiMoppel]

So, at the risk of sounding insistent, let me ask you again:
what is the advantage of adding a feature that cancels out another very useful one, especially if the animated icons were displayed correctly, regardless of their size?

You are insistent and I don't know why you keep asking me. I wasn't there when it happened, I have no part in it. I am innocent!
I can only speculate: When changing from gtkdialog3 to gtkdialog4, SVG support was the new craze and setting an arbitrary size for an icon and still have it displayed nicely was a nice new feature. Probably nobody noticed what this meant for animated GIFs. And if it was noticed then the new feature may have been considered more important than the lost feature. That's what is called a compromise

Maybe it's possible to have support for resizeable images and also make .gif images display correctly, but... will be difficult, I guess.

In principle I did this already in MMview. Here the viewer shows images resized (= scaled to fit viewer) by default, but does not resize when the image is small enough for the viewer. This displays GIFs animated if they fit into the viewer and static if they don't.

[Argolance]

Bonjour,

You are insistent and I don't know why you keep asking me.

... But I was right to be because you finally gave me the answer I was waiting for...
By the way and since you mention it: I sincerely think MMView is a major tool that should be integrated to all Puppies and therefore it is a pity that it is not internationalized - you see how "insistent" I am...).

Cheers.

[fredx181]

Just experimented for fun :



To run, download:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xg2 ... ar.gz?dl=1

Extract launch.tar.gz and run "launch" (inside "launch" folder)
Has 15 seconds timeout, it's using the older gtkdialog-splash that Argolance shared earlier in this thread.

Fred

[Argolance]

Bonsoir,

Just experimented for fun Laughing :

When I saw your first gif image above, and now this one, I wondered how it is possible, from the video recording of a part of the screen, to build a gif file. Could you please give some indications, as this can be very useful, if not in this thread, in another one or by private message?
Thank you a lot.

Cordialement.

[fredx181]

Hi Argolance,

Tried to find documentation, not sure if it's the most accurate (may be a bit chaotic).

I use weX for the video screencast (created the video which is converted to .gif as shown in my above post).
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107905
And:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113229

GifenC (convert video to .gif):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 724#948724

Forum member Mike Walsh jumped in, added some more info and provided a more extended .pet package, including gifenc:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 080#998080
And:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 364#999364

Fred

[Argolance]

Great! Thank you a lot.

[MochiMoppel]

Tired of bug hunting?

Come on, the game is not over. Here is another one:
The -deco option does not work in box_splash. Worked fine in all versions of gtkdialog-splash.

[ITSMERSH]

Just experimented for fun :



To run, download:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xg2 ... ar.gz?dl=1

Extract launch.tar.gz and run "launch" (inside "launch" folder)
Has 15 seconds timeout, it's using the older gtkdialog-splash that Argolance shared earlier in this thread.

Fred

Uaaahhh, that's really great.

Exactly what I need for my QTR Suite (my Music Suite to run, control and connect all the programs from a project). I have added a option to the launch script, so it combines the sound of a rocket launch (using aplay) for about 18 seconds (faded out) while displaying the gif image when starting QTR Suite.

Great, thanks!

[wiak]

This is the Puppy Precise 5.7.3 gtkdialog-splash, to be renamed without the gz extension, the one that "does the job" and may be used as stand alone script, renamed otherwise so as not to conflict with the one with the same name in /usr/bin directory which refers to box_splash.
Isn't it, sometimes, in old pots that the best soup is made?

Maybe it's possible to have support for resizeable images and also make .gif images display correctly, but... will be difficult, I guess.

Why could it be so difficult?
With a little goodwill, anything is possible!

I'm not doing much computing these days, but checked by yesterday and noticed this interesting thread. I've since installed XenialDog32 along with that gtkdialog-splash version out of Puppy Precise into its own folder. From that folder I'm executing the command:

Code: Select all

./gtkdialog-splash -placement top -icon "/fredsSavingSession.gif" -text "Please wait..." -close never &

and the gif animation is displaying fine. But one thing I'm not understanding from earlier post is that I find that with that old gtkdialog-splash version the animated gif is displaying fine with either gtkdialog3 (gtkdialog version 0.7.20, which is included in XenialDog32) or with gtkdialog4 (gtkdialog 0.8.3 included in XenialDog32). I understand that that old gtkdialog-splash does not set icon-width at all, but earlier post still seemed to suggest it would only work with gtkdialog3, which is not the case in my test. i.e. the animated gif shows fine with either gtkdialog3 or gtkdialog4 when using that ancient gtkdialog-splash script.

Do others find something different?

I haven't looked into the icon-width setting issue in the C code as yet; wanted clarity on the above first before checking that.

wiak

[MochiMoppel]

earlier post still seemed to suggest it would only work with gtkdialog3

This was my assumption, and the assumption was wrong.

The problems solely result from the very different gtkdialog-splash versions

[wiak]

earlier post still seemed to suggest it would only work with gtkdialog3

This was my assumption, and the assumption was wrong.

The problems solely result from the very different gtkdialog-splash versions

I was referring to Argolances earlier post, which did say gtkdialog3 only worked with that old Precise gtkdialog-splash (with animated gifs). But, as I said, I also found gtkdialog4 also worked fine in my test.

I'd rather not try to work out how any version of gtkdialog-splash or box_splash scripts work, since I'm not familiar with either code so would take me ages (or at least complicate the matter since so much more code involved). If someone could instead post a couple of simple gtkdialog programs that illustrate the effect of icon/pixmap width being used such that animated gif no longer shows (just a simple example - not a version of any splash per se - i.e. just a gif image loaded to show when it runs and when it won't), I could look at the C code to see if I could find a convenient workaround that could be applied inside gtkdialog code itself - rather than having to find external bash script/gtkdialog xml code workarounds - I believe I know the area of code to look at and it may be that if no icon width is specified then gtkdialog operation itself could be arranged to not upset animated gifs running (if that is the issue) - or is it all indeed nothing to do with gtkdialog4 (etc) and just a box-splash scripting problem?

wiak

[MochiMoppel]

or is it all indeed nothing to do with gtkdialog4 (etc) and just a box-splash scripting problem?

Yes.
If this time my assumption is correct then it is very easy to fix. Changing one value should do the trick.

[wiak]

or is it all indeed nothing to do with gtkdialog4 (etc) and just a box-splash scripting problem?

Yes.
If this time my assumption is correct then it is very easy to fix. Changing one value should do the trick.

If that proves to be the case I won't look into it further. My own assumption is that all will be fine if <width> is not used or set perhaps to -1 when animated gif the image (not really understanding the issue, I'm saying that based on the C code in gtkdialog4 where, by default, width and height default to -1). In gtkwialog (as addition not in gtkdialog), I some time ago added extra possiblity with the parameter 'preserve-aspect-ratio', which can be set to true or false, as described here. Not sure what difference using that would have in discussed animated gif scenario (possibly no difference - maybe someone or myself will get round to trying it sometime). That uses an alternative gtk call to load the pixmap (which allows the extra preserve-aspect-ratio parameter):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 98#1001998

wiak

[Argolance]

Bonjour à vous,

I was referring to Argolances earlier post, which did say gtkdialog3 only worked with that old Precise gtkdialog-splash (with animated gifs). But, as I said, I also found gtkdialog4 also worked fine in my test.

I'm sorry if I misled you, but that's not what I meant and tried to report:

I imported box_splash in my Puppy Precise 5.7.3 based system [...] I see that box_splash supports animated gifs too [...]. This works as long as the /tmp/yaf-splash is linked to /usr/sbin/gtkdialog3. If I delete this link, box_splash creates automatically a link to /usr/sbin/gtkdialog which is a link to gtkdialog4 and animated gifs are not supported anymore.

So, this was concerning box_splash and not the "old" puppy precise "gtkdialog-splash". To be more accurate, I imported both /usr/lib/gtkdialog/box_splash and /usr/bin/gtkdialog-splash from Tahr 6.0.5 to my Puppy Precise based system. This /usr/bin/gtkdialog-splash is not a script like the old one but just returns to box_splash via this command:
Contents:

Code: Select all

exec /usr/lib/gtkdialog/box_splash "$@"

As attached file, "gtk-splash" for those who might find it useful. It is the Puppy Precise gtkdialog-splash but renamed and modified to be totally stand-alone, avoiding any conflict with other programs of the same type and perhaps other unexpected problems.

[EDIT]: this may be added to /root/.jwmrc:

Code: Select all

<Group>
<Class>gtk-splash</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>layer:above</Option>
<Option>nofocus</Option>
</Group>

or gtk-splash modified to work using this class if already existing:

Code: Select all

<!-- created 130618, a class for all future popups -->
<Group>
<Class>splashwindow</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>layer:above</Option>
<Option>nofocus</Option>
</Group>

Cordialement.

[wiak]

Bonjour à vous,

I was referring to Argolances earlier post, which did say gtkdialog3 only worked with that old Precise gtkdialog-splash (with animated gifs). But, as I said, I also found gtkdialog4 also worked fine in my test.

I'm sorry if I misled you, but that's not what I meant and tried to report:

I imported box_splash in my Puppy Precise 5.7.3 based system [...] I see that box_splash supports animated gifs too [...]. This works as long as the /tmp/yaf-splash is linked to /usr/sbin/gtkdialog3. If I delete this link, box_splash creates automatically a link to /usr/sbin/gtkdialog which is a link to gtkdialog4 and animated gifs are not supported anymore.

So, this was concerning box_splash and not the "old" puppy precise "gtkdialog-splash".

Ah, sorry, my mistake entirely; I misread your earlier post.

wiak

[fredx181]

Just experimented for fun :
......
Extract launch.tar.gz and run "launch" (inside "launch" folder)
Has 15 seconds timeout, it's using the older gtkdialog-splash that Argolance shared earlier in this thread.

Fred

Uaaahhh, that's really great.

Exactly what I need for my QTR Suite (my Music Suite to run, control and connect all the programs from a project). I have added a option to the launch script, so it combines the sound of a rocket launch (using aplay) for about 18 seconds (faded out) while displaying the gif image when starting QTR Suite.

Great, thanks!

Haha, you're welcome !

Can you share someway that rocket launch sound and the code of your setup ?
Sorry for the off-topic Argolance, but please understand, that rocket sound is a must have addition !

Fred

[Argolance]

Bonsoir,

Sorry for the off-topic Argolance, but please understand, that rocket sound is a must have addition !

Do not worry! On the contrary, I am delighted to see that this topic is attracting some interest...
Do as you feel like it!

Cordialement.

[ITSMERSH]

Haha, you're welcome !

Can you share someway that rocket launch sound and the code of your setup ?
Sorry for the off-topic Argolance, but please understand, that rocket sound is a must have addition !

Fred

Yes, this is a must have addition!

All in one package at datafilehost.com. Since they have changed the duration of keeping files it will stay at least for 90 days after last download.