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666philb


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Sep 2019, 13:29    Post subject:  

also added fsearch to the repo, this is a bit like 'everything' search that can be installed on windows. start typing and you get instant search results.

i'll add it to quickpet once it's synced with nluug

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escucha


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Sep 2019, 15:32    Post subject:  

FSearch is a handy tool, thanks Phil.
It turns search work into rapid find when database is on.
Will use often.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Sep 2019, 17:30    Post subject:  

added gatotray to the repo.
a handy tray app that shows cpu usage, memory usage, disc io and temperature.
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haywirepc

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 00:30    Post subject: Shutting down with xfce  

Running bionicpup 64 8.0
I install and use xfce and compiz from repos.

When you use the pupshutdown menu from the xfce start menu, it starts, but when you press reboot or shutdown for example, the panels disappear then nothing happens. I thought it was just the computer I was on, but I copied my save file and same thing happens on every pc I tried.

Does anyone know a fix for this?
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 06:33    Post subject: Re: Shutting down with xfce  

haywirepc wrote:
Running bionicpup 64 8.0
I install and use xfce and compiz from repos.

When you use the pupshutdown menu from the xfce start menu, it starts, but when you press reboot or shutdown for example, the panels disappear then nothing happens. I thought it was just the computer I was on, but I copied my save file and same thing happens on every pc I tried.

Does anyone know a fix for this?


hi haywirepc,

i think this is fixed now .... quickpet >>> bionicpup updates ... to test

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Pentos

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 07:33    Post subject:  

Hiya
I'm absolutely loving this distro.
Wow - talk about fast!

Got a couple of Qs i hope someone can help me with.
I've been running off a stick but want to install to the HD in a dual boot with Windoze 10 (the currently installed OS)

I've found and had a look at the Gpart etc but frankly am a little daunted by it.
Id like to minimise the amount of space Windoze has but want to keep it for the time being, while i acclimatise and copy across necessary bits n pieces.

so Q1. What is are the best settings to choose to achieve this?

The target PC is an early Panasonic Toughpad FZ-G1 - 1 cpu at 1.9ghz 2 cores i5. 4GB ram. 256gb SSD

Being a tablet it has no keyboard.
Q2 Is there an plugin for on-screen touchscreen keyboard?

Lastly, the main purpose of the tablet is as a chartplotter on a boat. It has a built-in hardware GPS for this but ive been unable to discover it in the system info tree. In windoze its configured as a COM port.

Q3. is there additional software required to recognise and run the GPs?

Many thanks

Pentos
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 09:46    Post subject: Shutdown under xfce  

Hi haywirepc,

I'm not sure that this applies to your system. My experience is based on ONLY constructing xfce-panel in order to employ Whisker-Menu under XenenialPup64. However, the debs used were from a Ubuntu repo.

That Whisker-Menu had the same problem. Mine was trying to execute Xfce-shutdown routines that were not present. Here's how I solved it. First track-down the executable for your shutdown gui under Jwm. If Bionicpup64 has Menu>Utility>PupShutDown Manager, you can use that instead. It will add a Suspend option: the "G" in its GUI's lower left corner. The executable for PupShutDown Manager is the bash-script /usr/local/PupShutdown/PupShutdown.

With the executable identified, I Right-Clicked the ICON which triggers Xfce's Shutdown. This brought up a dialog box. One of its panels was IIRC "Commands". That had several fields, one of which specified which executable was called for shutdown. As I recall, there was scroll-bar that enabled you to search thru folders and finally select the executable you want called.

Sorry, not in the above system just now so am doing this from memory; and that without having finished my first cup of coffee. Rolling Eyes But, if you get the idea from the above you can try some variations, e.g. Left-click where I wrote Right-click.

With Xfce on a system designed for JWM, you may also find rationalizing xfce's menu of value.http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=977867#977867

Edit, having had to search for the above post, after reading it, it seems I discussed "Commands" previously: four posts below the above link.
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 19:20    Post subject:  

Pentos wrote:
,want to install to the HD in a dual boot with Windoze 10 (the currently installed OS)


Windows 10 gets all out of shape bothered if anything but it does any partition changes to the drive it is on.
So to do that you need to use Windows programs.

Really, you do not need to change anything to install Puppy alongside Windows 10.
Windows is on the drive, but any free space Puppy can use.
Puppy frugal install will just install into a folder and that folder will act like any other folder.
Everything Puppy is in that folder.

The easy way to do it is use the installer program Lick.

LICK is a Puppy Linux installer for Windows.
It configures Windows and Puppy Linux to dual-boot environment in just a few clicks.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 19:23    Post subject:  

Pentos wrote:
]Being a tablet it has no keyboard.
Q2 Is there an plugin for on-screen touchscreen keyboard?

Have you tried using:
menu>Utility>xvkbd virtual keyboard?

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FONZACUS

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2019, 23:58    Post subject:  

just wondering, is it possible to manually download the bionicfixes from quickpet? where is it stored after the download?

im currently on lxpupsc64 (kudos peebee) and i like the 'modularity'. id like to turn it into an fdrv. id also like to request offloading palemoon from the main drv to a new adrv.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep 2019, 00:48    Post subject:  

thanks everyone. I did try this update and there was no change. Someone suggested a fix in the thread I started on this in beginners help section here. That worked, but next I'm having some kind of session issue. (Starting JWM instead of xfce at start and more issues)

So frustrating, almost a perfect system to clone I built, but I keep borking the save file somehow before I can correct all the issues.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep 2019, 00:49    Post subject:  

Also, I have some issue where sometimes xfce4 does start, but it seems to flash the jwm default desktop, background and icons first. Is there a fix to that issue? I think this stuff may all be related since no proper shutdown may not save the current session to start with next boot.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep 2019, 12:28    Post subject:  

Hi again, haywirepc,

Again, I'm working by analogy so can't be certain of its relevance. See my prior post. But, as I recall, in order to get xfce-panel to function I had to install an exo-utils deb and its dependencies. Puppy Package Manager did not identify these as dependencies.

JWM (puppy's default window-manager) does not include them nor need them. But xfce and AFAIK every window manager used by Ubuntu does. Consequently, they are part of every operating system created by Ubuntu. As such, Ubuntu does not list them as dependencies one has to install to use an application. Puppy Package Manager only determines what dependencies an Ubuntu application has by reading the list Ubuntu publishes. Hence, it doesn't know.

The absence of exo-utils may be the cause of both your bootup and shutdown problems.

As an alternative to installing xfce, you might want to try FbBox. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=769018#769018. My reading of this thread, especially the last few pages, suggests it may work with Bionicpup64 even though that OS is not specifically mentioned. I haven't tried it.*

My main reason for building xfce-panel was primarily to use Whisker-Menu. Whisker-Menu has two components I particularly liked: (1) Its Favorities Category into which I could assign applications so that I didn't have to wade thru menus to call them; and (2) Its search-box for finding & running applications, for the same reason. FbBox has a similar Favorities Category. Puppy has an application, findnrun, which I believe is built into Bionicpup64 performs the same task. But, if you prefer, you can install xfce-AppFinder which, in fact, does not depend on xfce. I've used PPM to build it for many Puppies.

I also discovered that the xfce-notes-plugin works fine without xfce. That may be the case with some other xfce-plugins.

* radky, the creator of FbBox, has since developed many refinements for the JWM desktop, including a builltin 2nd Launcher panel. Consequently, using JWM combined with AppFinder means I almost never have to wade thru menus.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep 2019, 13:56    Post subject:  

Pentos wrote:
Hiya

Lastly, the main purpose of the tablet is as a chartplotter on a boat. It has a built-in hardware GPS for this but ive been unable to discover it in the system info tree. In windoze its configured as a COM port.

Q3. is there additional software required to recognise and run the GPs?

Many thanks

Pentos


hi Pentos,

there's a few linux gps apps to try, many of which are in the package manager
Code:
https://www.linuxlinks.com/gpstools/

foxtrotgps fired up for me, but i don't have gps to test it.
viking from the package manager seems broken, i'll see if i can make the latest version for bionicpup.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep 2019, 14:03    Post subject:  

Quote:
sometimes xfce4 does start, but it seems to flash the jwm default desktop, background and icons first

The desktop background and icons are not there because of jwm,
it is roxfiler that is creating the desktop
The roxfiler desktop (pinboard) can be disabled in /root/.xinitrc

I'm not sure if xfce creates it's own desktop background.

The bionicupdate does have a a script to shutdown Puppy if xfce is running
but it does about the same thing as editing and fixing wmexit.
for example,
Code:
wmpoweroff
killall X

In my BionicPup64 8.0 the Xwindows executable that is running is Xorg, not X
so maybe the

killall X

lines should be

killall X Xorg

It might be that xfce is not being allowed to save it's configuration data when it shuts down, in which case a simple script to shut down xfce gently might work.

Or Puppy may not have the support needed for the session management that xfce wants to use.
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