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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sat 14 Dec 2019, 18:05    Post subject:  

Evening, all.

Now then; another wee 'issue' I've noticed. Maybe I'm not up with the latest Woof-CE build developments, but can anybody tell me why my 'Home', 'End' and arrow keys seem totally unresponsive? In fact, all I can get the arrow keys to do is bring up mtPaint every time I press on 'Right' or 'Down';'Left' and 'Up' don't seem to do anything at all.....

Have I inadvertently triggered something that's now generating this behaviour? In other words, have I 'toggled' something without realising it? I'm certain this wasn't happening 2 days ago.....and no new software or anything else has been installed/enabled during that time.

Thoughts?


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PostPosted: Sat 14 Dec 2019, 21:15    Post subject:  

Hmmm ... I seem to remember having a similar issue ages ago, but can't remember what happened! It's definitely OK now, though.

Any clues in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? If it's any help, this is what it says in my keyboard section:

Code:
Section "InputClass"
   Identifier "keyboard-all"
   MatchIsKeyboard "on"
   MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
   Driver      "evdev"
   Option      "XkbRules" "evdev"
   Option      "XkbModel" "pc104" #xkbmodel0
   Option      "XkbLayout" "gb"
   Option      "XkbVariant" "" #xkbvariant0
   Option      "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" #xkboptions0
EndSection
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2019, 15:21    Post subject: Getting VB running in Bionicpup64
Subject description: virtualbox-6.0_6.0.14-133895~Ubuntu~bionic_amd64.deb
 

I have installed the above package and built the kernel modules. They installed and are listed (lsmod). The sockets are listed in /dev. When I run virtualbox in a terminal, it returns the following error:

"You will not be able to start VMs until this problem is fixed.
/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox: error while loading shared libraries: VBoxGlobal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"

Many different "*.so" library files are present in this directory but not that one and a search of the file system did not locate it elsewhere.

During boot up here is the related messages:
"Dec 15 16:42:55 puppypc21126 daemon.err kernel: udevd[4935]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh' '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh 189 256 09': No such file or directory
Dec 15 16:42:55 puppypc21126 daemon.err kernel: udevd[4937]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh' '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh 189 0 09': No such file or directory
Dec 15 16:42:55 puppypc21126 daemon.err kernel: udevd[4936]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh' '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh 189 384 09': No such file or directory
Dec 15 16:42:55 puppypc21126 daemon.err kernel: udevd[4946]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh' '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh 189 129 09': No such file or directory
Dec 15 16:42:55 puppypc21126 daemon.err kernel: udevd[4951]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh' '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh 189 1 09': No such file or directory
Dec 15 16:42:55 puppypc21126 daemon.err kernel: udevd[5066]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh' '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh 189 130 00': No such file or directory"

And after rebuilding to try to correct:
"Dec 15 16:56:51 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: Stopping VirtualBox services.
Dec 15 16:56:51 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: VirtualBox services stopped.
Dec 15 16:56:55 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
Dec 15 16:56:55 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: VirtualBox kernel modules built.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.warn kernel: vboxdrv: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.debug kernel: vboxdrv: Found 4 processor cores
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.info kernel: vboxdrv: TSC mode is Invariant, tentative frequency 2693864327 Hz
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.debug kernel: vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 6.0.14 (interface 0x00290008)
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.err kernel: VBoxNetFlt: Successfully started.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.err kernel: VBoxNetAdp: Successfully started.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.err kernel: VBoxPciLinuxInit
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 kern.info kernel: vboxpci: IOMMU not found (not registered)
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: VirtualBox services started.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
Dec 15 16:57:24 puppypc21126 user.notice vboxdrv.sh: VirtualBox services started."

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Terry H

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2019, 16:21    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
Evening, all.

Now then; another wee 'issue' I've noticed. Maybe I'm not up with the latest Woof-CE build developments, but can anybody tell me why my 'Home', 'End' and arrow keys seem totally unresponsive? In fact, all I can get the arrow keys to do is bring up mtPaint every time I press on 'Right' or 'Down';'Left' and 'Up' don't seem to do anything at all.....

Have I inadvertently triggered something that's now generating this behaviour? In other words, have I 'toggled' something without realising it? I'm certain this wasn't happening 2 days ago.....and no new software or anything else has been installed/enabled during that time.

Thoughts?


Mike. Wink


Mike, just checked on my Dell Laptop in bionic64 using JWM. The 4 arrow keys, 'Home' and 'End' keys are functioning correctly here. Sorry can't offer any suggestion as to fix your situation.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2019, 17:32    Post subject:
Subject description: keys misbehaving
 

Mike Walsh (in part) wrote:
..why my 'Home', 'End' and arrow keys seem totally unresponsive? In fact, all I can get the arrow keys to do is bring up mtPaint every time I press on 'Right' or 'Down';'Left' and 'Up' don't seem to do anything at all.....
Mike, I read about a thing like that somehere on this forum weeks ago. It didn't happen on this Dell E6410 laptop, very likely using my usual BusterPup 8.0 from Radky.

I just booted Bionic Pup 64.
Quote:
ls -lta /mnt/home/Bionic64/
total 359304
drwxr-xr-x 40 root root 4096 Dec 15 16:13 ..
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Sep 29 11:32 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Mar 22 2019 bionicpup64save-mar21
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 2048 Feb 26 2019 boot.catalog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6291456 Feb 26 2019 efi.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 770 Feb 26 2019 grub.cfg
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 26 2019 help
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1951 Feb 26 2019 isolinux.cfg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10802 Feb 26 2019 splash.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 292466688 Feb 26 2019 puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 26 2019 Windows_Installer
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2619177 Feb 26 2019 initrd.gz
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4890 Feb 25 2019 fix-usb.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59727872 Feb 24 2019 zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6189216 Feb 19 2019 vmlinuz
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jan 1 2019 NewDir
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24576 Mar 16 2018 isolinux.bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 154128 Mar 16 2018 vesamenu.c32
The problem with keys did not occur.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2019, 21:26    Post subject:  

Sorry Mike Walsh, but I have to ask?
Is this your laptop?
Is this your keyboard?
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2019, 06:47    Post subject:  

Hi bigpup,

You may be on the right track as it tends to explain what exactly Mike meant by his
quick'n'dirty install method to a sub-directory on one of his ext3-formatted HDD 'data' partitions.

If it's on one of those spinning disc things he may also have forgotten to feed the hamster. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2019, 10:54    Post subject:  

Cheeky buggers.... Laughing Laughing

@ bigpup:- Let me put it this way. When I had the old Inspiron apart, trying to ascertain the extent of the 'coffee-spill' damage - and attempting to clean things up as best as possible - things weren't far off looking like that! As for piccie No. 2....sheesh. I remember that day very vividly....!!

But, er, no; hand on heart, I can honestly say that I have never attempted to run any 'puter from.......a pizza box!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes Very Happy

I have higher standards than that, mate.....

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@ ETP:- ^^^ + 1 !! Laughing Touché, mi amigo...

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No, it's odd, to say the least. Out of the entire kennels, it's only this Bionicpup64 install that's doing it.....but the weird thing is, it's only behaving like this in the browsers.!. In the rest of Bionic, everything's functioning fine. So; I'm in two minds as to whether it's explainable by the usual 'bad download' scenario.....


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2019, 14:56    Post subject:  

Are you getting the browsers from Quickpet->Browsers?
Those are for Bionicpup64 8.0

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2019, 17:17    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Are you getting the browsers from Quickpet->Browsers?
Those are for Bionicpup64 8.0


No, bigpup, these are my own 'generic' packages, modified to work with this particular install. (And please don't try to tell me that I don't know how to put together browser packages that work properly. How many years have I been building them for the community?.... The Puppy 'devs' are not the only ones who are capable of such; I mean, it's not exactly 'rocket-science', so long as you have a good, basic grounding in the Linux file-system stuff..! Laughing)

FWIW, some back & forth has been going on via PM this last few hours. I believe the issue is that I've accidentally toggled something that is more noticeable with browsers than owt else, due to the various functions they all have integrated via the Fn keys.

Further research is required. It'll be later on this evening, possibly tomorrow before I know; I'm in the middle of experiments with Smokey's 'BackSeatDriver' & PSIP in Slacko 560 at the moment. Everything's a wee bit delicate & 'temperemental' right now..! Rolling Eyes

Stay tuned. I will report back on this one, as soon as....


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2019, 19:41    Post subject:  

Quote:
I believe the issue is that I've accidentally toggled something that is more noticeable with browsers than owt else, due to the various functions they all have integrated via the Fn keys.

checked the keyboard model setup in Mouse/keyboard Wizard->Advanced Configuration->Keyboard Model?
There are some specific ones for specific laptop keyboards.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2019, 00:49    Post subject:  

Mike - may be an upstream woof issue, as I see peebee had some keyboard issues with update 7 of ScPup last month.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2019, 03:18    Post subject:  

ozsouth wrote:
Mike - may be an upstream woof issue, as I see peebee had some keyboard issues with update 7 of ScPup last month.

Don't think so - wasn't a woof-ce issue - resulted from a move to use libinput....

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2019, 04:32    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
Evening, all.

Now then; another wee 'issue' I've noticed. Maybe I'm not up with the latest Woof-CE build developments, but can anybody tell me why my 'Home', 'End' and arrow keys seem totally unresponsive? In fact, all I can get the arrow keys to do is bring up mtPaint every time I press on 'Right' or 'Down';'Left' and 'Up' don't seem to do anything at all.....

Have I inadvertently triggered something that's now generating this behaviour? In other words, have I 'toggled' something without realising it? I'm certain this wasn't happening 2 days ago.....and no new software or anything else has been installed/enabled during that time.

Thoughts?


Mike. Wink


Hi Mike,

Hey, this (what you wrote) has been a long known issue in Peebee's creations. No other pup, ddog or any other creation I've used does this always launching mtpaint with an arrow key, and also other keys not behaving normally.

I brought it to Peebee's attention over one or two years (or more) ago, but nothing has ever changed. Don't get me wrong, Peebee's creations are great, but this issue with the up, down, et arrow keys (and also others) stopped me completely from using any of his creations. It's just a pain.

I (and my family) frequently use those up, down,et al keys and other keyboard keys on all our laptops around the house. I got tired of having to go in and modify stuff every time I installed the Lx### OSes just so that this keyboard behavior wouldn't happen and things would work normally.

If you stick with Peebee's stuff, just tell yourself you'll have to modify things (I've posted the instructions before in all LX pup threads) to stop the keyboard behavior. Because other than that, as I imagine you already know, Peebee's stuff is top-shelf.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2019, 05:37    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
has been a long known issue in Peebee's creations.

Errrrrrr............!!!!!!

This is a Bionicpup64 8.0 CE issue - nothing to do with me! 666philb is the developer......... I was just pointing out that I didn't think recent ScPup problems were related.

As for my builds - LxPupBionic, LxPupSc, LxPupSc64, BionicPup32, UPupEE, ScPup32, ScPup64 then problems need to be reported in the relevant thread and will get fixed if possible if sufficient diagnostic info is provided.

I don't see keyboard problems in any of my current builds.......tested on both a desktop and a laptop........ and @Marv is a very helpful tester who always assists with any problems that do arise.

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