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rameshiyer

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019, 01:11    Post subject: Bionicpup
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While installing debian packages, asking administrator password. Please let me know the password. I have given woofwoof However, it is not accepting.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019, 03:42    Post subject:  

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Also this one made into a pet by BarryK
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/noarch/packages/pet/pet_packages-noarch/getflash-1.9.pet

In this game of musiclal urls by adobe, version 1.9 of getflash currently works ok on
this and several other pups. Looks like there's another whole year of this nonsense
before flash player is no more.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019, 05:05    Post subject: Re: Bionicpup
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rameshiyer wrote:
While installing debian packages, asking administrator password. Please let me know the password. I have given woofwoof However, it is not accepting.
Hello rameshiyer
Puppy does not have Ubuntu user management or Ubuntu package management. So postinst scripts that expect them to be present won't work as intended.
I have not seen any problems with packages from the Ubuntu repos, but third party packages sometimes have problems.
For example, on Ubuntu, tvheadend creates an ACL that requires a Ubuntu login. To use tvheadend on Puppy it is necessary to stop the program and run it with the -C parameter that allows you to create a new profile with whatever access control you want.
You need to look at the postinst script to see what it is trying to do.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019, 11:30    Post subject:  

Hi
Got a request :
because,lets say i am away from a keyboard(yes,could happen here..),with touchscreen not working in prompt or out of x..
i mess it up(yes,it happen here..),i would like to reboot without saving ,pup event manager/save session /option ask to bla bla(if unticked,session will be saved automatically)
i got a problem or one choice,hard reset...
so,
what about a new option to ;
Dont ask at shutdown,if ticked your session will NOT be save
...make sense to me ,as a touchscreen user
Did i saw that in old puppys?
is it more a woof request?

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019, 12:45    Post subject: Re: Bionicpup
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rameshiyer wrote:
While installing debian packages, asking administrator password. Please let me know the password. I have given woofwoof However, it is not accepting.


hi rameshiyer,

this is probably because you are either running puppy as a limited user (fido) or trying to install the .deb from inside the /root/Spot folder. if the second just move the .deb into /root before installing.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Dec 2019, 07:20    Post subject:  

Hi, Phil/all.

I'm a fairly late adopter where Bionicpup64 is concerned. I did try one of the betas last year - I think it was 7.9.3? - but dropped it a bit later to concentrate on Xenialpup64 at that time. AppImage support was, er....'patchy', is probably the best description (I use a lot of these), but I'm happy to report this appears to be 'sorted', now.

However, I do have an 'issue' with the PPM? Despite updating multiple times, it simply will not install anything. Keeps coming up with an error message, saying that "xxxxxxx is not available. Try updating databases.....new versions may be available", etc.

Now, this is a long old thread, and even some of our now available search engines aren't able to home in on specific posts.....and I simply don't have the time to read through the whole thing. Is this a 'known' issue.....or does it look like a bad download? If it is, I'm going to be really, really annoyed, since aside from that, I now have everything set-up to my liking, and all is working sweetly.

Is this something that got 'patched', or 'fixed' at some point? I can't even install from 'Quickpet'; I keep getting the same old error messages.....and I know these are available from the package listings at Ibiblio. I can install by downloading the package, then manually installing, however.....

Cheers.


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Dec 2019, 08:41    Post subject:  

@Mike Walsh:

Your issue seems familiar to me so I updated the package manager and installed a 3 programs, one from the gnome family, one from the kde family of apps and one from bionic 64 native repo.

Everything worked perfectly.

I have had some experiences in the past where I tried to install packages using the puppy ppm and received a "package not found" warning similar to the one you are reporting. The option to cancel or retry was presented and I selected retry which resulted in a successful installation.

I cannot remember if this experience was exclusive to Bionicpup64 or if I had the same experience with some of the other pups though.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2019, 01:26    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh,

What you are describing about PPM and Quickpet is common results of just a bad download of the Bionicpup64 8.0 iso and or a bad install to whatever storage device being used.

I would try a fresh new download of the iso and a fresh clean install.
Make sure you download the iso to a location that has not had the file system fragmented by being used by Windows.

A clean format of the partition, is always good, if you can do that.

Quickpet for sure should just work.
Well, Quickpet->Info->Bionicpup updates will fix a few bugs with a few programs offered in Quickpet.

Quote:
27/02/2019 added monkey audio encoding to asunder
27/02/2019 fixed some rox right click options
27/02/2019 added various missing icons for gnome apps
26/02/2019 disable /etc/xdg/autostart/gsettings-data-convert.desktop ... linuxcbon
26/02/2019 addgroup input ... linuxcbon
05/03/2019 more rox right click options fixes
05/03/2019 add anydesk, megasync & odrive to quickpet
05/03/2019 removed teamviewer from quickpet as buggy ... still in repo
05/03/2019 install fixes for freeciv, anydesk & megasync added to /usr/local/petget/hacks-postinstall.sh
07/03/2019 added libblas and liblapack symlinks
07/03/2019 added gocr OCR for xsane
08/03/2019 updated findnrun help .... step
08/03/2019 install fix for opera, vivaldi & chromium, add chromium-codecs-ffmpeg ...Gnimmelf
09/03/2019 added kodi, kdenlive, vlc & freecad to quickpet
09/03/2019 added google chrome updater
10/03/2019 updated tas (take a shot) ... sfr & bigpup
14/03/2019 updated uextract ... sfr & bigpup
14/03/2019 fixed Mouse/keyboard wizard ... wdlkmpx & westwest
15/03/2019 swapped bootflash 4 stickpup usb installer ... gyro & bigpup bootflash can fail & also will only boot on uefi
15/03/2019 added mm_view & mime type for image_x-fuji-raf ... MochiMoppel trying to set run action for .RAF files crashed rox
15/03/2019 added python-sip ... gets missed by ppm when installing some apps
15/03/2019 added fonts-emojione ... fixes missing symbols in claws-mail
03/03/2019 added installed confirmation to calibre
03/03/2019 fixed devx & kernel source sfs in quickpet ... bigpup
03/03/2019 fixed gxlat swap button ... radky
03/03/2019 added Lockstate .. ETP & sfr
03/03/2019 quickpet freecad is now appimage ... Revolverve
03/03/2019 added openoffice to quickpet
03/03/2019 added wps-office to quickpet
03/03/2019 added nvidia 340 driver
05/03/2019 added iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode firmware ... rcrsn51 & Gordie
05/03/2019 fixed save to cd ... tallboy & wdlkmpx cdrecord needed updating
30/04/2019 uextract updated ... sfr
22/05/2019 puppy search link fixed
25/06/2019 pburn updated ... zigbert, wert, bigpup
13/07/2019 fix loading user seletected modules ... boolean1, wdlkmpx .... see https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commit/420ca5b645467fd94136ac921f757d4bdff5f93c
13/07/2019 Pup-sysinfo updated ... Radky
13/07/2019 fix JWM freeze after quickpet-update .. brownmouse ... wait for pinstall.sh to complete
16/07/2019 further JWM freeze fixes ... use jwm -reload instead of restart
20/08/2019 take a shot updated ... sfr & bigpup
25/08/2019 google have broken hardware acceleration in all chrome based browsers. quickpet now has older
versions of chrome, chromium, opera & vivaldi which do support hardware acceleration.
25/08/2019 added rtl8821ce wifi driver to quickpet
25/08/2019 swapped corebird for chirp in quickpet
25/08/2019 fixed search link in quickpets help menu
25/08/2019 removed google chrome updater
28/08/2019 fixed imagemagick install from PPM
31/08/2019 added nvidia 340 driver ... bigpup & abuian
31/08/2019 added /etc/lsb-release ... pencilandpaper
17/09/2019 Uextract updated ... sfr & bigpup
17/09/2019 fixed .rpm package install & extract
17/09/2019 wvdial updated ... mouldy
19/09/2019 fsearch added to quickpet
19/09/2019 added more missing icons for gtk3 apps
25/09/2019 xfce logoff fix ... haywirepc
10/11/2019 calibre fix in quicpet ... newer version only works with graphic drivers installed
10/11/2019 swapped mtp_detect for pupmtp ... mistfire
10/11/2019 qwinff added hevc & opus encoders ... burp!
10/11/2019 updated libarchive ... 6502coder
10/11/2019 simplegtkradio updated ... dejan555
10/11/2019 getflash updated ... Argolance
19/11/2019 fixed openoffice.sfs ... musher0 & falco

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2019, 07:25    Post subject:  

Hi Mike Walsh,

i wonder if the firewall is blocking your PPM. another thing it might be is that you've overwritten bionicpups 'wget' as that would break both the PPM & quickpet.

FYI: bionicpup auto updates the the PPM 90 seconds after boot up so the package unavailable message shouldn't happen like in other pups. a caveat to this is if you install a package when it's in the process of updating. still your problem points to wget.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2019, 22:12    Post subject:  

Hello, Phil.

Mm. Well, just as an experiment, I tried using wget to directly download a package from the bionic64 pet_packages repo at Ibiblio. This is how it went:-

Code:
root# wget http://www.distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-bionic64/teamviewer_14.1-x86_64.pet
--2019-12-12 01:59:44--  http://www.distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-bionic64/teamviewer_14.1-x86_64.pet
Resolving www.distro.ibiblio.org (www.distro.ibiblio.org)... 92.242.132.16
Connecting to www.distro.ibiblio.org (www.distro.ibiblio.org)|92.242.132.16|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: ‘teamviewer_14.1-x86_64.pet’

teamviewer_14.1-x86     [ <=>                ]    1010  --.-KB/s    in 0s     

2019-12-12 01:59:44 (8.82 MB/s) - ‘teamviewer_14.1-x86_64.pet’ saved [1010]

root#


I got a .pet package in /root.....of exactly 1 KB. The TeamViewer package should be some 21-odd MB in size.

Rt-clk->Properties describes it as an

'HTML document, ASCII text, with very long lines, with no line terminators'.

What d'you reckon? According to 'Properties' for /usr/bin/wget, it hasn't been overwritten or modified since it was created on the 25th Feb 2019, @ 10:49.03.....

???? How might the firewall be blocking wget? I'm still tryin' to figure that one out.....

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EDIT:- Downloading it - by clicking on it in Iron - downloads it perfectly. And clicking on it installs it.....

Curiously, upon clicking the .pet to install it, pkg opens in the terminal in the background, and proceeds to resolve, download, and install a shed-load of dependencies from the main Ubuntu repos. All of which install perfectly. And damn me if TeamViewer 14 doesn't actually open up and proceed to run; first time I've ever even seen the frickin' thing..! Very Happy

Well done for that! Gawd, I hate Qt5..... (*grrr....*)



I may have got there by a somewhat 'circuitous' route.....but I did arrive. That'll do me. No need for a re-install, I don't think.... Cheers, Phil!


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 07:42    Post subject:  

I tried to install Teamviewer by using PPM.
It downloaded and installed the pet package.
Then as you say, by terminal installed a bunch of other stuff.
When all completed.
Teamviewer worked with no problems.

So, wget and PPM seem to be OK for my install of Bionicpup64 8.0
I do have it updated by Quickpet->Info->Bionicpup updates.
My firewall is set to default setup, when you run firewall setup.

Nice pet that goes and gets dependencies that are needed.
Funny, when the pet package finished it's install.
At the information window, that tells if anything is missing or needed. It listed several things.
However, at the same time the terminal was open downloading and installing those missing things. Shocked Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 12:56    Post subject:  

@ bigpup:-

See, if I go into Quickpet->Info->Bionicpup updates, all I get is a small window telling me 'No bugfixes yet'. Yet from what you posted, above, seems there's already a whole bunch of 'em.....

Haven't figured this one out yet. My firewall isn't bog-standard, 'cos I have the Samba ports open for file-sharing across the LAN (using Bionic64's built-in SAMBA, and Bill's 'Samba-TNG' on the old Dell lappie).

I can't connect if those aren't opened:-

135/tcp
137/udp
138/udp
139/tcp
445/tcp


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 15:31    Post subject:  

hi mike,

are you sure you have the official iso from ibiblio? also are you using an old save from the betas?

BTW, that teamviewer.pet is buggy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 19:52    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh,

In Quickpet->Info
Click on help at top of window.
Select installed bugfixes.
Does it bring up a list of anything?

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 21:32    Post subject:  

@ Phil/bigpup:-

@ Phil:-

666philb wrote:
are you sure you have the official iso from ibiblio? also are you using an old save from the betas?


Yup; quite sure. I'd had a copy of 8.0 I'd downloaded some 4 to 5 months ago, but since I wanted to do a clean, bang-up-to-date install, I deleted that & replaced it with a fresh d/l from Ibiblio, immediately before performing the install via the 'quick'n'dirty' method around a fortnight ago.

(I use the quick'n'dirty method for the simple reason that I've been using Puppy long enough now to properly understand what I'm doing. Yes, it's 'rough around the edges' compared to using the 'installer' app - I wouldn't recommend it to noobs, f'rinstance! - but it sure as hell is a LOT quicker.)

Installed to a sub-directory on one of my ext3-formatted HDD 'data' partitions.

And er, no; definitely no 'old' save-files for this one. I'd wiped them off the system many months ago, so this is a brand-new set-up, from scratch.

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@ bigpup:-

bigpup wrote:
In Quickpet->Info
Click on help at top of window.
Select installed bugfixes.
Does it bring up a list of anything?


Hoo; let's have a look now.

(moments later)

Nope. Just a window marked 'bugfixes.txt'.....and the brief message,'No bugfixes yet.....'

(*shrug*)

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.....a few minutes later:-

EDIT:- Ah. A-ha. Quickpet->clicked on the top button, 'Bionicpup Updates'. Wget kicks in, does its thing, and sets about downloading something. Quickpet disappears.....small green pupmessage; 'Updated'.

Now if I do Quickpet->Help->Installed bugfixes.....there they all are.

It's been a while since I last used Quickpet, I'm afraid..! Embarassed

EDIT_2:- .....and downloads/installs are all behaving themselves, too. Needed the bugfixes, obviously!

[*....wakey-wakey, Walsh!!*] D'oh!! Laughing


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