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#106 Post by Billtoo »

I installed to a 64gb sandisk flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc25750 Kernel: 4.14.71 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.4
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 serial: U02C120500059
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 1234/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Desktop version: 2.1 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 562.8GB (2.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 67 F (20 C) Time: September 25, 10:39 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 138 Uptime: 57 min Memory: 326.7/5888.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Updated PPM and installed favorite applications.
Connected to a 32" TV via hdmi cable, audio also via hdmi.

It shuts down cleanly,
Works well,
Thanks
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PS1 prompt, desktop icon

#107 Post by sheldonisaac »

Hi, may I ask for help on these items?

When I click the "Terminal" in the tray, I want the result to be like '~> ', rather than 'root# '.

And how to get rid of the desktop icon labeled "Drives", which is 'Puppy drive manager',


Thank you,
Sheldon Isaac
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#108 Post by melon688 »

Menu > Desktop > Psync Time Server Synchronisation > (each NTP) > Sync to time server

Got Error Message.


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psync

#109 Post by sheldonisaac »

melon688 wrote:Menu > Desktop > Psync Time Server Synchronisation > (each NTP) > Sync to time server

Got Error Message.
See the link that artsown posted, at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 02#1005302
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Bionicpup64 7.9.4 beta

#110 Post by Billtoo »

I installed to a 64gb sandisk flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc2569 Kernel: 4.14.71 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.4
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: GN559AA-ABA a6220n serial: MXF7470DNX
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Berkeley v: 1.04 serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.13 date: 10/24/2007
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E4500 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1914/2200 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Oland [Radeon HD 8570 / R7 240/340 OEM]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: radeon Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 128 bits) version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 461.6GB (0.8% used)
Weather: Conditions: 68 F (20 C) Time: September 26, 5:03 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 304.5/3945.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Updated PPM and installed favorite applications.
It's hard work for this older computer to do kodi streaming video but
it gets the job done.

Shuts down cleanly.

Thanks for version update.

********************************************************

EDIT: I tested Quirky beaver 8.7.1 on this hp and it uses much less resources when streaming video in Kodi
(see gkrellm screenshot)
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#111 Post by rockedge »

sheldonisaac wrote:When I click the "Terminal" in the tray, I want the result to be like '~> ', rather than 'root# '.
open /root/.bashrc and add this line

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PS1="\w>"

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PS1 prompt (oops, should be in the Beginners section)

#112 Post by sheldonisaac »

rockedge wrote:
sheldonisaac wrote:When I click the "Terminal" in the tray, I want the result to be like '~> ', rather than 'root# '.
open /root/.bashrc and add this line

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PS1="\w>"
Thank you, rockedge!!

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#113 Post by Mike Walsh »

Sheldon:-
sheldonisaac wrote:...<snip> And how to get rid of the desktop icon labeled "Drives", which is 'Puppy drive manager', </snip>
Easy. Right-click, then 'Remove item'. (You may have to click 'Edit item', then uncheck the 'Locked' tick-box first, but that's not generally needed in a new Puppy install.)


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#114 Post by Mike Walsh »

@ David:-
davids45 wrote:Thanks Mike Walsh for the link to your earlier post about the erratic behaviour of BionicPup64's Puppy Event Manager in regard to displaying anything more than a few drive icons.
I used your 'shortcut' instead of going the 'long-way' (Menu>Desktop>....) to get to the icon manager, and trying various number combinations, I could get one to actually work - a single row of separated icons! :shock: :D (screenshot)
Maybe I need to have each parameter divisible by 4? It seemed in a previous episode of this strange behaviour (I can't recall the Pup), using an odd number for any parameter caused the 'pile-up'.
I'll see how this goes with further re-boots to this Pup.
I believe you'll find it's also related to Rox's 'grid-step' setting in the 'Options : Pinboard' tab.


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I don't know whether it was intentional on Phil's part, but I very early on noticed that when moving icons on the pinboard, instead of just staying exactly where I 'dropped' them, they'd 'jump' a wee bit as if to a pre-set position. Upon further investigation, I realized that instead of the 'grid-step' being set to the usual 'Fine', it was in fact on 'Medium'. Re-setting this to 'Fine', in combination with using an even number of pixels separation between each drive icon (you're right about that, I think; I use 56 as my 'standard' separation, but then I don't have quite as many partitions as you! :lol:), cured the problem.

The other 'problem' of the Event Manager needing to be used every session in order to 'straighten things out', however, remains.....but this isn't exclusive to BionicPup64. It seems to be common to all very recent Woof-built Pups; peebee's Upup Bionic suffers from it, as does Sailor Enceladus' excellent re-spin on Micko's classic Slacko 570, Slacko 571. It's the only thing that spoils them all for me.

Something that needs looking into at Woof-CE HQ, perchance?


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#115 Post by LateAdopter »

Hello 666philb
Having fixed my error in menu.lst that stopped zdrv loading, I've got my audio back and xrandr can set the refresh rate with the modesetting driver.

I've checked for tearing on a new install of 7.9.4.
I set the refresh rate to 50Hz to match the video.

With the modesetting driver the tearing is really bad.

I changed to the Intel driver with triplebuffer=false and tearfree=false.

With your current configuration of compton there is no tearing.
So it looks as though compton can manage pageflip during the blanking interval without any additional buffering from the display driver.

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#116 Post by watchdog »

Sometimes my laptop fails the autoconnect at boot. I think it's a woof-ce bug because I have this problem in other recent puppies, too.

EDIT: I usually use Network Wizard and eth0 to connect.
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#117 Post by belham2 »

Thanks, Phil for uploading the new ISO, it solved the shutdown problem panic messages for me and it all shutsdown cleanly now.

I've a question for all users, though: on my i3 core laptop with 8GB ram, this new bionicpup (both old & new ISOs, frugal and/or full-install) is making my laptop's chip and fan run like crazy. It's like busybox or something (Htop is unclear) is going nuts or something, and my fan just runs constantly & the chip's cores are just grinding away at something. This is the only pup in my ~11 pup/ddog kennel that does this.

Is anyone else seeing this, or having this experience??

Just curious......

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#118 Post by watchdog »

@belham2

I had this problem with my current old laptop with tahr64, slacko64 6.3.2, early slacko64 700, xenialpup64. I have solved this problem with the kernel 3.16.43 of slacko64 700 RC3. I have not this problem with current kernel in bionicpup64 7.9.4 beta. I think it depends on the kernel in use.

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#119 Post by Terry H »

belham2 wrote:Thanks, Phil for uploading the new ISO, it solved the shutdown problem panic messages for me and it all shutsdown cleanly now.

I've a question for all users, though: on my i3 core laptop with 8GB ram, this new bionicpup (both old & new ISOs, frugal and/or full-install) is making my laptop's chip and fan run like crazy. It's like busybox or something (Htop is unclear) is going nuts or something, and my fan just runs constantly & the chip's cores are just grinding away at something. This is the only pup in my ~11 pup/ddog kennel that does this.

Is anyone else seeing this, or having this experience??

Just curious......
With the i3 chips they are running at full speed all the time. I'm not sure who originally posted this, but adding 'intel_pstate=disable' to the kernel boot line, will stop it from running at full speed all the time and will allow to use cpufreq to control the CPU. I have i3-5005U which is set to ondemand in cpufreq and it idles at around 800 MHz, rather than 1900 MHz.

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bluetooth

#120 Post by petihar »

Hi 666philb and all
Thank you very much for your great work. frugal install 7.9.4 on acer Aspire V5. Works well, the stop and rebbot bug is fixed.
Now I'm pulling my hair out with Bluetooth, I'd like to connect my phone and a sound system but I can't do anything! I have a Trendnet USB dongle.
Has anyone ever managed to connect a device using Bluetooth and if so, what are the packages to install?
Thank you in advance for your help, cordially petihar.

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#121 Post by Mike Walsh »

Terry H wrote:
belham2 wrote:Thanks, Phil for uploading the new ISO, it solved the shutdown problem panic messages for me and it all shutsdown cleanly now.

I've a question for all users, though: on my i3 core laptop with 8GB ram, this new bionicpup (both old & new ISOs, frugal and/or full-install) is making my laptop's chip and fan run like crazy. It's like busybox or something (Htop is unclear) is going nuts or something, and my fan just runs constantly & the chip's cores are just grinding away at something. This is the only pup in my ~11 pup/ddog kennel that does this.

Is anyone else seeing this, or having this experience??

Just curious......
With the i3 chips they are running at full speed all the time. I'm not sure who originally posted this, but adding 'intel_pstate=disable' to the kernel boot line, will stop it from running at full speed all the time and will allow to use cpufreq to control the CPU. I have i3-5005U which is set to ondemand in cpufreq and it idles at around 800 MHz, rather than 1900 MHz.
At least yours does have 'Speedstep'. It just needs the proverbial 'kick in the goolies' to make it use it..!

Any of you unfortunate to be stuck with the earlier, 400FSB P4s, they'll run full chat regardless of what you try and do. Reason? Because 'Speedstep' never existed in the P4 instruction set until the first 533 & 800 FSB P4s were released.....with HT.

(The olde Dell chunters away at 2.6 GHz all the time.....and there ain't a thing I can do to control it. Mind you, though, for a supposedly hot-running design, coupled with a chassis possessed of lousy thermal dissipation characteristics - and 15 yrs old to boot - you can't complain about average working temps of around 56-58C, can you?)

*shrug*


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#122 Post by artsown »

Memory use (Mb) comparison using HTOP. The readings were done while
playing the same youtube video with no other tabs open.

.....................Palemoon............Waterfox
Xenial64 7.5........293.....................375
Bionic64 7.9.4.....727.....................960

Art

Edited for better legibility.

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Memory use

#123 Post by sheldonisaac »

artsown (in part) wrote:Memory use (Mb) comparison using HTOP. The readings were done while playing the same youtube video with no other tabs open.

.....................Palemoon............Waterfox
Xenial64 7.5........293.....................375
Bionic64 7.9.4.....727.....................960
Thanks, Art.
I know of HTOP, but actually know very little. I guess I could use it and try to understand; and/or look for a tutorial.
So Bionic64 7.9.4 uses much more memory?!

I'm in musher0's 32-bit Xenial at present.

Hm, so is it correct that these newer Puppys are more memory hungry?

Thanks,
Sheldon
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#124 Post by artsown »

@sheldonisaac
Tahrpup64 6.06 is older than Xenialpup64 7.5 but it generally uses more
memory when tested using the same browser on the same test object. So
the latest pup may or may not be more of a memory hog. In the case of
bionicpup64, it so happens that this latest pup sets a record for being a
memory hog! :)

I was impressed with the clear and significant superiority of the (latest)
palemoon in this regard, compared to other browsers.

Art

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#125 Post by woodenshoe-wi »

dancytron wrote:edit again: Some of the basic right-click actions in rox filer seem broken. I downloaded the Universal File Viewer and when I right clicked and chose rename or permissions or properties, nothing happened.
Can you tell me exactly what I have to do to reproduce the problem?

I tried renaming a file on first boot (still running in ram) and it worked. I saved the session to a save folder on an ext4 partition and rebooted and I could still rename the file without any problems.

Do I have to install or uninstall something to trigger the problem? Does it only show up after remastering?

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