How to back up pupsave file while it's in use?

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#16 Post by bigpup »

@bigpup: I think what you say about not everything of the pupsave being
loaded in RAM... well, it depends if you have specified pfix=nocopy or not.

Nocopy boot option has no affect on how the save is mounted/loaded.

Pupmode controls how the save is used.
Which relates to what storage device it is on, which also controls how the save is loaded/mounted.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#17 Post by r__hughes »

@Musher0 & anyone else interested in the history of the hotbackup file for frugal puppies.

I went back in time to an old computer gathering dust in the basement and found a file called hotbkup.tar.gz uploaded by a user named 2byte on Sat 12 Dec 2009 at 17:08.

Attached is a zip file with his original upload & a html copy of the original forum discussion page :)

Thank you 2byte wherever you are
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#18 Post by musher0 »

r__hugues?

You're good! National Archives Canada should offer you a job! :)
Many thanks for this research.

With your info I was able to bump that old thread. There are
updates, corrections and locales on page 6 of that thread.

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#19 Post by glene77is »

r__hughes wrote:@Musher0 & anyone else interested in the history of the hotbackup file for frugal puppies.

I went back in time to an old computer gathering dust in the basement and found a file called hotbkup.tar.gz uploaded by a user named 2byte on Sat 12 Dec 2009 at 17:08.

Attached is a zip file with his original upload & a html copy of the original forum discussion page :)

Thank you 2byte wherever you are
>>> to Hughes,
Thanks for the history retreival.
Reading through the code, it appears that this is the 'first run' version.
Perhaps its title should be Puppy HotBkUp_v1.0 by 2byte.

>>> Edited 200603
We tried running this v.1.0 , in our UpupBB+20 system, without success.
As the code states, the saveFILE must be saveFILE.2fs or .3fs.
However,
(1) The first line "file picker widget" would not allow selection of 'any' file.
(2) The "Quit" button killed the program, but left a runaway process
scrolling error notations in the Terminal.

>>> Edited 200604

(1) This is the method of 'backing-up' :
### cp -f -v "$PUPSAVE_PATH" "$destdir" ### 200604-0613

(2) We found reference that the gtkdialog used for the Main Gui was an early version, from "pygtk.org".

However, it was interesting to read through the terse code.
Thanks again to "Hughes" for the historical retrieval.

It should be noted that the v.1.2 ( included in the UpupBB system )
does run 'as advertised', on our system. 'Thank you' , to 2byte.



We use a Puppy Backup to 'tar.gz' titled "B2T" presented at :
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 24#1050224

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#20 Post by musher0 »

Just a general reminder:

In addition to the suggestions above
you can safely do a regular back-up of your pupsave file with zip, lzop or other,
while in the Pup, provided no other program is running.

Meaning: you don't play a game, you don't edit a text, you don't browse through
your music collection, etc., until your backup is finished.

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#21 Post by glene77is »

musher0 wrote:Just a general reminder:

In addition to the suggestions above
you can safely do a regular back-up of your pupsave file with zip, lzop or other,
while in the Pup, provided no other program is running.

Meaning: you don't play a game, you don't edit a text, you don't browse through
your music collection, etc., until your backup is finished.

IHTH
Thanks to Musher0 for his cautionary reminder.
We tried running SnapMergePuppy ( from 'save-2-flash )
at the same time as
the current "hotbackup" ( v.1.2 ).
Results : both programs "froze" or "Locked-Up".
... may be result from 'sync' and 'tar' conflicting for control.
Solution: Control-'C' or 'Control-Alt-Del' to kill everything.

It is just as Musher0 warned :
Run one 'task' at a time.

Do Not Play Games with your Data !
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