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How to understand and use Rox file system?
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C523

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2018, 13:14    Post subject:  How to understand and use Rox file system?
Subject description: Downloading and other tasks
 

Confused I am new to puppy and trying the LXPUP 18.05, Which seems to be really agreeable with my 9 year old dell desktop computer. I read in a post for chromium to download and to run it as spot. Is there a thread that explains how to use the Rox filesystem for beginners? In the home folder it says sfs and looks like an open box and in the Rox file manager it has a lock on it so im a bit confused with how it works, I used mint and linux lite in the past so Rox is very new for me.
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2018, 18:33    Post subject:  

In Puppy your "home" directory is the top level of the file structure, i.e. whichever drive or partition on which Puppy is found & mounted during booting.

You'd normally start exploring your Rox-Filer filesystem by starting from "root" and navigating from there.
You can get there either by clicking on the "file" icon on your desktop or via "menu > filesystem > ROX-Filer file manager"

The SFS graphic you're seeing with the "lock" on top is simply the icon used to represent SFS files. There'll probably be a couple showing there, the main one called something like lxpup_18.05.sfs and one named something like zdrv_lxpup_18.05? (sorry, I don't know exactly how they're named because I've never used LXPUP).
Essentially they contain all your Puppy read-only system, drivers, and applications, which are loaded into RAM at boot.

The first and most important question to start with, before getting round to installing new programs, is have you already gone through the process of shutting down your system and followed the instructions on screen to create a save file or folder, so any additions or changes to your system will be saved?
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2018, 23:12    Post subject:  

I am totally unfamiliar with LXPUP 18.05, but in my old Lucid 5.2.8.7, I can right-click the file icon in the top left corner, and choose ROX-Filer, and in it's menu choose Manual. All settings are available in Options in the same place, absolutely worth browsing (and/or modifying Very Happy ).

You could also go to the source, for some real insight: http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/index.html

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2018, 23:51    Post subject:  

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I read in a post for chromium to download and to run it as spot.

menu>System>Login and Security Manager
After you install a browser
Here is where you choose to run a browser as spot.

Click on the help button.
Read the help to understand what spot is all about.

About using Rox file manager.
Rox is a one window program, that does not open a tree view of the file system.
To copy, and move stuff in Rox.
Simply open more than one Rox window.
Example:
To copy a file.
One Rox window open to place you want to copy to.
One Rox window open to location of file you want to copy.
Drag and drop between Rox windows.

Rox also has some right click options.

Right click on a open area in a Rox window.
Choose options.
A lot of tweaks you can do to how Rox works.

Note:
The pinboard part is used to show stuff on the actual desktop.
Puppy uses the pinboard as part of what controls the desktop.

Rox takes some time to get used to using.
I actually like it better than a tree view file manager.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2018, 23:58    Post subject:  

Browsers are in a world of their own.
They constantly change as to what they need to work correctly.
The Browser & Internet section of Additional Software has several topics on different browsers.
People go to a lot of trouble making some of them work with Puppy.
Make sure to look for a browser here to install.


Basic info on installing additional programs.

Program packages need to be compiled for Puppy for the best chance to work. Puppy has it's own way of doing things.
Program packages are available in several ways. What you are looking for is probably available in one of them.

Puppy Package Manager(PPM), that is installed with the version of Puppy Linux you have, is the best place to get new programs. It will open, showing programs that are known to work on your version of Puppy.
1. Run Puppy Package Manager.
2. Left mouse click on a listed program.
3. Follow install directions
4. Program installs.

Depending on the version of Puppy you have, the package manager will have option to get packages from repositories other then Puppy repositories. The package manager will need to be configured for them.
This is how:
Run Puppy Package Manager (PPM)
Select configure package manager.
Select the repositories you want to show.
Select update now.
After the update process, (it will take some time to update).
Close and restart PPM.
Should now see your new repositories at top of PPM window.
You then select the one you want to show in listings.
Note:
When getting packages from non-Puppy repositories, make sure you click on examine dependencies button (if offered) and download and install any identified as needed along with program package.
(newest version of PPM does this automatically)

Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff)section of this forum is the next best place to look. However, you must keep in mind that you will find programs that where originally compiled under a specific version of Puppy and they may or may not work with your version.
General rule is to read the posting for the program pet and see if there is any info that would indicate what version of Puppy it will work under.
Most of the stuff will work on a large portion of Puppies, but not 100% guaranteed.
You may find more then one version of a program. Sometimes that makes a difference.
1. Find a program you want.
2. Open the program thread.
3. find the link for downloading the program pet.
4. Left mouse click on the link
5. Follow the directions to either install or save.
(If you save the pet file you can install by viewing the pet file in Rox-Filer (file manager) and left click on it)

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:41    Post subject:  SOLVED
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Thank you Salty, Tallboy and Bigpup Smile I just saved all this wonderful information in Leaf pad that i just learned how to use Very Happy So that i can do everything step by step. I also have chromium working. You just saved my hair from falling out Laughing Time to go do my puppy homework Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2018, 21:57    Post subject:  

C523 wrote:
You just saved my hair from falling out

Easy for you to say, we're all bold now! Laughing

Welcome to the forum! Very Happy

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