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musher0

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2018, 11:44    Post subject: Re: Phioew  

Volhout wrote:
Another Bone ..??
Hi, Volhout.
We'll try to make it a T-Bone! Laughing

Besides, how many years, now, since the last published "Bone"?

Cheers.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2018, 11:50    Post subject:  

wanderer wrote:
hi musher0

my vote

absolute minimal woof-ce

just big enough to load sfs files

all further additions are sfs files

the simple mans woof-ce


cheers


wanderer
Hi wanderer.

Thanks for your input. You're the 2nd person to mention this kind of
possibility. I'll see. I'm starting slow -- but sure, hopefully.

BFN

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Volhout

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2018, 16:29    Post subject: Another Bone....  

Hi Musher0,

I have some suggestions too.
If you create a barebones puppy, this is typically done by removing all the bloat, and everything needed to support the bloat.
Browser out, Office out (Abiword...).
The remainder is typically stripped so far it is not usefull for anything, except booting and terminal work.
And the user interface is typically UGLY as hell (I know taste is personal) so save few kbyte.

If I may make a suggestion it is to create a barebones with a goal.
Not to bare it down to the minimum, but the minimum for XXXX function.

You could think of a barebone with only a browser (I think there was one "browserlinux" based on lupu 5.1.1). Pick the simplest HTML5 browser, drop flash.
Or a barebone targetted to network use (with network tools, and RDP, VNC and such).
Or a barebone targetted at video playing (mediacentre barebone).
And make it beautifull and user friendly.

Or a barebone for programming (python ?)
Or a barebone for WINE / DOSBOX
Or a barebone for STEAM
Or a barebone for MINECRAFT....

Reason is that a fully stripped barebone grows to the size of a full size puppy once you start giving it more function. All the drivers, libraries, etc... have to be added before you can do anything with it. And then you did a lot of work resulting in a lot of work for the others to add it again.

I realize that when using Xslacko Slim, a very good job done by mistfire, but a slimmed down version has things missing. It is hard to make a barebone that can be used universal.

That is my 5 cent.....


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wanderer

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2018, 16:41    Post subject:  

hi again musher0

doesn't woof-ce have a package list
where what is not needed in the original stripped down iso
can be checked off

then another list can be made that has more stuff
the next level so to speak

and another list with a higher or differently focused level
etc

you would just have to go through and check off the lists

a lot of work
and you would have to know what you are doing

but then it would use the the work of woof-ce
and make woof-ce accessible to simple folk like me

i would be a tester
if it didnt take long to build each iso

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musher0

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2018, 23:57    Post subject:  

Hi wanderer.

Woof-CE does have a flat-file csv-type database of progs and libs to install. I think I
understand the concept -- BarryK did explain it well. However, in practice, when I
have it loaded in front of me in say, gnumeric, I can't make heads or tails of it.

Also, it would still take over an hour to do each try-out through the Woof-CE process.

Our buddy Sailor Enceladus is very good at juggling with this database, as I
understand it. Me, I prefer working with the good old < rm > utility in a loop based
on the ~/.packages/builtIn "index cards". Cut, snip and carve, I guess, is my method!

Nearing completion, BTW. Where's that background of a Revenge Puppy, folks?Laughing

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2018, 23:59    Post subject:  

@Volhout: Thanks for your point of view. I'll reply later. BFN.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jun 2018, 20:48    Post subject:  

BTW. Where's that background of a Revenge Puppy, folks? Laughing

I'm sure you have an image in your mind of Noirette. I wonder if you have a photo?

Like you, my ability to draw leave much to be desired. But I'm rather good at searching and using gimp or mtpaint to cut and paste. IIRC, gimp has a tool which can be used to transform a photo image into one more like a drawing. Perhaps mtpaint has something similar. Googling "Bulldog Greyhound mix" >Imagess --figured the legs could be shortened-- generated many hits, regretfully not all actually images of Bulldog Greyhound cross-breeds. For example, http://www.dogsblog.com/mia-46/ But, maybe just as well as some of the images already had short legs.

Maybe, if we had an image of what you have in mind one of the PuppyLinux Artists would have an model to work from.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2018, 18:51    Post subject:  

Hi mikeslr.

Thanks for your kind reply.

I have old pictures of Noirette in black and white in a box in the "attic". Unfortunately, it
would be difficult for me to access them at the moment.

The "Mia" mixed-breed Greyhound-Bulldog you found has pretty much Noirette's build
and size. Maybe Noirette's nose was a tiny bit longer than Mia's?

She also looked a bit like in the attached pic, if we imagine the brown coat as black
instead. Her chest was broader/deeper than this fellow, too, like Mia's. You couldn't run
after Dad's old 1956 Chrysler for half a mile -- and pass it at ~ 25 mph! -- if you didn't
have deep lungs and fantastic runnring legs!!!

She passed us, went about 200 ft ahead of us, then turned around and waited for us.
Clever girl! Dad had to stop the car! This girl was NOT staying home alone in the yard
when the rest of the family was going for a car ride! I opened the back passenger door
and she jumped right in! She was so happy!

The situation was that we were going back to the grocery store to pick up an item mom
had forgotten for a recipe. We would have been back in five minutes, but Noirette did
not know that, of course.

It was approx. 4:55 on a Saturday afternoon and all stores closed at five in those days,
hence our hurry. We thought Noirette's rope in the yard was strong, but she had bitten
through it!

BFN.
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2018, 13:58    Post subject:  

Not even an abstract Puppy?

Or God forbid, a Puppy "à la Mondrian, 2nd period"?

Puppy talent has dried up, eh? Sad

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2018, 23:16    Post subject: try smaller with same apps  

try smaller with same apps. These ISOs are not bare, everything needed for daily usage is available.. In a Puppy Linux spirit..
In lonely days Puppy asked to be compared with Bigger OS, and Puppy was the winner..
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2018, 02:08    Post subject:  

@Musher beautiful dog also love the à la Mondrian, 2nd period"? picture.Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2018, 05:04    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
... looked a bit like in the attached pic...


Australian shepherd, AFAICT. Like the two Aussie sisters I had the privilege of owning (?) - Chloe and Osa (my avatar). Finest creatures to walk the face of the earth.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2018, 15:47    Post subject:  

darry19662018 wrote:
@Musher beautiful dog also love the à la Mondrian, 2nd period"? picture.Smile
Hi Darry.

i was thinking: "What would happen if we replaced the head of each model in that
picture with the head of a dog?" Laughing

Libel? Uproar? Blame by the #MeToo movement? Mondrian turns in his grave? Laughing

Maybe we should colorize it too.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2018, 06:03    Post subject:  

Hi all,

following musher0's request, I felt inspired to create some wallpapers for Puppies and Dogs.

They show the face of a dog named Chico, who was killed by German authorities in April of this year.
For me it symbolizes what those in power do to us all.

The dog was obviously abused for ten years, for his whole life, and finally found while his two owners were dead.
German authorities claim, the dog had killed them both by biting, but I can't imagine how the injuries should have looked like.
Then the authorities confiscated the dog and killed him shortly afterwards, despite 290.000 people signed a petition to not let them kill him. Some people wanted to give him a new home.
German authorities were at fault beforehand, because someone reported the owners to them for abusing the dog, and they did not intervene.

If Chico really killed his owners, they deserved it, like Christine Wels, a long time horse abuser, who got killed by a horse in the end.

Regards,
Bernhardiner

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2018, 17:07    Post subject:  

Thanks for the pictures of Chico, Bernhardiner, and for making us aware
of his story.

Too many supposedly "family pets" around the world are actually martyrs
of their owner's neglect and/or psychological deviance... And as you
mention, some Animal Welfare Departments in many countries are much
less intelligent than the animals they are supposed to take care of.

I'm not ready to publish the xenialPup-706 "Modular" yet, but I'm keeping
your blue and your white renditions of the dog Chico for later. Nice idea to
use the canvas effect on those, it makes the pictures look more "classical"
(IMO).

I'm also keeping for later your "Kandinski"-type picture with the "color
splashes" on dark blue background. (The one second from bottom.)

Nice work! Good continuation, Bernhardiner!
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