(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

I wonder if there might be a Linux browser???

It seems the only thing preventing me from using my [older] Linux Puppy is... [the] ...obsolete Internet browser enforcement for most likely than not, gathering information for advertisers.

Gary Smith



PS -- Oops, I didn't realize the graphic was going to be so huge.

Now, that's a huge image I've posted to Pinterest.com

The graphic speaks to my PC having been upgraded to 64-bit.

With 32-bit compatibility my Wine isn't performing but I hadn't planned on this post but for the image. While on the topic--any clues?

Yes, the folder says "LinuxLite" and that's another load on the drive. It's the only one so far that runs my very old CorelDraw8 without a glitch.

Gary Smith

It helps if you tell us exactly which Puppy you want to upgrade the browser in. Sometimes missing libraries must be added for modern browsers to work in older Puppies, and that can be a monumental hassle. Better to upgrade to a newer Puppy that comes with a newer browser.

Hello,
Yes, there is... Many...
I once released a Puppy Linux with 12 browsers.
If your question relates to running a modern browser on an older puppy it's an almost insurmountable problem.
However the latest Puppies will run the latest browsers with ease.
It all has to do with which libc and which gtk version the puppy has a built-in.. older puppies ran older versions of both.. newer puppies run the most up-to-date versions..
So in short, as an answer to your most "generic" question, yes...

Certainly the links browser is for linux!
It can be used in CLi or GUI mode.

Manual is here: http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html

Flash wrote:It helps if you tell us exactly which Puppy you want to upgrade the browser in. Sometimes missing libraries must be added for modern browsers to work in older Puppies, and that can be a monumental hassle. Better to upgrade to a newer Puppy that comes with a newer browser.

Thank you. I have been working with my new XenialPup64 for several days and discovered Pale Moon. Seems to be what's needed.

This may be difficult to believe and I've made bad correlations in the past, but it would seem Pale Moon offered me the one thing I could not get away from by using Firefox.

You see, unless I'm paranoid and I'm prepared to accept that as a possibility, my XenialPup64 keep[s] shutting down whenever YouTube viewing. I'm a little vocal and dissatisfied with YT policies. I was just able to view using Pale Moon without being cut off. I wonder as I've answered negatively when the survey appears.

At first thought it to be a memory write over with my Pup. Then I thought it could be some bad hardware but I shall go surf a little more then sign-in and surf once again. I'm hoping without an issue for shutting down my PC.

Gary

My next effort is to get a compatible Wine.

I've loaded the Dev and 32-bit compatibility along with trying numerous versions of Wine.

Right now I'm running a freshly loaded XenialPup64.

Gary

If I don't sign-in to YouTube my machine isn't shutting down.

Curious Gary

If I don't sign-in to YouTube my machine isn't shutting down.

what? how...when...were....??

rockedge wrote:

If I don't sign-in to YouTube my machine isn't shutting down.

what? how...when...were....??

I think my posts are not wanted on YouTube. Ran my XenialPup64 for hours yesterday afternoon. Ran this morning but as soon as I went to YouTube my whole machine shut down.

I don't think this is a Linux issue but one of YouTube behind the scenes action, but nevertheless, my PC is shut down again after going to YouTube. It has to sit for a short time and will restart.

Working from a different machine. Will see if shuts down.

Gary

Been surfing from a Windows7 machine for more than an hour with no trouble.

This may be a PC issue but will update.

Gary

That sounds like an over-heating problem.

Hello GarySmith.

I think member rcrsn51 is onto something here.

Care to share the specs of your YouTube-allergic PC?
(You use Puppy's "hardinfo" utility and share the summary here.)

Also did you tell us which Puppy it is running?

IHTH.

I agree!
Sounds like a graphics hardware or processor overheat problem.

Check the air inlet, outlet openings in the computer.
Check that all cooling fans are working.

There is the chance you got some malicious code.
Check your browser for any add-ons or extensions you do not recognize and remove them.

IIRC, XenialPup has a temperature monitor in its system tray. What is it reporting?

These monitors can be misleading if they are not calibrated correctly.

(Edited)

Over heaters have it and I thank you for sending me that way. Paranoia of YouTube's anti-posting ended.

On a separate Windows7 machine -- no shutting down.

On a separate WinXP Like machine -- no shutting down.

On my original XenialPup64 machine and when using Windows CorelDraw8 compatible LinuxLite3.8, 64-bit load -- shutting down. These machines were not shutting down off the Internet.

The XenialPup64 temperature monitor always starts at about a range of 27-28 degrees but can go as high as 31-3[8] (edit).

My CD/DVD and hard drive housing easily removes. This may sound unusual but it seems to be a hard drive overheating as it is half way to being pretty hot. I'm going to find an additional fan and blow toward the drive or near a vent from outside the case. Wonder if YouTube is hard drive intensive???

After checking out Pale Moon loaded onto my LinuxXP Like downloading, made default browser and it's running pretty good.

Will update.

Gary

The XenialPup64 temperature monitor always starts at about a range of 27-28 degrees but can go as high as 31-33.

That is not getting very hot.
Too hot would be 70, 80, or higher temps.

Pup-sysinfo>Devices>Sensors
See what it shows for temp readings.

On my original XenialPup64 machine and when using Windows CorelDraw8 compatible LinuxLite3.8, 64-bit load -- shutting down.

That to me indicates that program has problems.

If you have a hard drive getting hot.
Time for a new drive.
That is probably a good indication the drive motor in it is going out.
However,

The normal temperature of a hard drive is from 40C° to 50C° when it is in work. The temperature of HDD should not be more than 70 C°. An IDE hard drive is usually from 30 C° to 50 C°. It probably causes data loss or even worse it may damage the hard drive when its temperature is up to 100 C°.

Hard Drive Overheating Symptoms
https://www.icare-recovery.com/howto/ha ... ating.html

Do not overlook the possibility the memory may have a problem. Could be going bad.

If this is a laptop or a somewhat older desktop computer.
Open it up and check the security of all connections.
Anything that plugs into something.
Over time, connections can work loose, and it does not take much to make a loose connection cause anything to happen.
Also look at general condition of everything.

Capacitors going bad is a big problem in older computers.
Check for bulging or leaking capacitors.

That was useful information and I will reread for the details. Maybe my hard drive was heating but not over heating. Whenever I hit YouTube for a few minutes I'm getting hit with a locked up OS. I'm starting to get a little paranoid again.

I'm using a fresh load of Linux Puppy XP Like on a 32-bit machine not my regular 64. This Pale Moon web browser is helpful.

Only Google's YouTube. Hummm...not sure what to think anymore.

Gary

Hi GarySmith.

If you have a tower-type PC, one easy and no-expense way to cool it
down is to remove the side panel -- and leave it off.

You can also get a small 3" USB fan (at Canadian Tire, was CAD$12 a
couple of years ago) and direct it full-blast inside the PC towards where
the hard-drive and CPU are located.

Other "cooling" ideas, if you have a little money:
-- a dedicated hard-drive cooler. It has a fan in front of where you sit
your hard-drive.

-- if it's an old PC, the power unit itself may need to be seriously
vacuumed -- or even changed. New ones have a powerful fan inside a
meshed cage that cools all the inside of the PC. (Old ones had a
solid cage, so the stream of air stayed inside the power unit.)

-- Get the dust out of the wings of that CPU heat-sink using a (very) soft
felt pipe-cleaner and a compressed air can. (Will set you off 5-6 bucks.
With the computer completely off AND completely unplugged!!!)

IHTH.

musher0 wrote:Hi GarySmith.

If you have a tower-type PC, one easy and no-expense way to cool it
down is to remove the side panel -- and leave it off.

You can also get a small 3" USB fan (at Canadian Tire, was CAD$12 a
couple of years ago) and direct it full-blast inside the PC towards where
the hard-drive and CPU are located.

Other "cooling" ideas, if you have a little money:
-- a dedicated hard-drive cooler. It has a fan in front of where you sit
your hard-drive.

-- if it's an old PC, the power unit itself may need to be seriously
vacuumed -- or even changed. New ones have a powerful fan inside a
meshed cage that cools all the inside of the PC. (Old ones had a
solid cage, so the stream of air stayed inside the power unit.)

-- Get the dust out of the wings of that CPU heat-sink using a (very) soft
felt pipe-cleaner and a compressed air can. (Will set you off 5-6 bucks.
With the computer completely off AND completely unplugged!!!)

IHTH.

Really great ideas...

I take my PCs out ever six months to a year for blowing with my AC blower designed for PCs. Yes, that was a rather expensive "can of air".

With two different PC loads of Xenial and Puppy XP shutting down there has to be another reason. Why the Windows7 PC surfed with no problem not sure. Sometimes it can take a little longer than other times when hitting YouTube to start freezing my OS load.

In my 007 mind, could it be that Linux is difficult to monitor but Windows easier? Isn't Google supposed to be a company, like Facebook, monitoring the public??? Am I being steered toward Windows???

Curious Gary