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dcung · Posted: Thu 06 Sep 2018, 05:17 Post subject:

I saw other dogs have separate locale SFS for 32 & 64 bit.

Just confirming, BionicDog 32 & 64 use same sfs (only see one on 1st page)?
99-locales-BionicDog-2018-04-21.squashfs

How do you set locale? I loaded the SFS and I was looking for a menu to set locale but could not see it.

I am assuming that this would get rid of those setlocale warnings that I sometimes saw?

Thanks.

fredx181 · Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 3575 Location: holland

Hi dcung,

For the locales, 64 or 32-bit makes no difference AFAIK.
It's not straightforward for Bionicdog and will be not be perfect, to do manually, see earlier topic (Russian) (first put "99-locales-BionicDog-2018-04-21.squashfs" in casper directory and reboot):
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=991270#991270
(and scroll down for more about it (and some on next page)
More info on Xenialdog thread, for German (a bit different method but should work on Bionicdog also)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=963259#963259

dcung · Posted: Thu 06 Sep 2018, 17:03 Post subject:

trister · Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 110

Squashfs that adds some missing xorg drivers (I hope I got the terminology right) that will allow to run BionicDog64 to some "difficult" PCs/Laptops.
bionicdog64_extra_stretchdog64_drivers_vesa_v01.squashfs https://1fichier.com/?jnnfcy223opa26anprrp
This was a revelation for me since cause of this problem I was forced to using DebianDogs (I don't regret it though Smile

)

The history behind this (you can ignore it Smile

) :

2 years ago I had to select a current linux distro for my work. My old requirements were very old PCs so I was using puppy distros like fluppy and precise.

I got a new i5 PC and started trying puppy and dog distros.
In short I could only boot fluppy, DebianDog, XenialDog32 and StretchDog and WindowsXP live CDs . The machine was booting with generic drivers (and it was ok for me since I don't use heavy graphics apps).
I tried many distros (even arch linux did not boot) Only setting nomodeset in kernel parameters I could startX.

Yesterday, I tried BionicDog64 and it (as I expected) it also did not run -even with nomode set.

Comparing with StretchDog64 I found that VESA drivers were missing. I did a squashfs with drivers from StretchDog64 that did not exist in BionicDog64 and now I have a working BIonicDog64 system (using nomodeset parameter).

I am posting the additional drivers here because I think the lack o VESA drivers will stop this distro from working in many "strange: laptops & PCs.

I still haven't managed to manually set or detect my real graphics card in xorg ( Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0152] ) but at least I can work with bionicdog64 and vesa.

Files that are contained in the squashfs are :
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ :
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31800 May 7 2015 cirrus_alpine.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19448 May 7 2015 cirrus_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27928 May 7 2015 cirrus_laguna.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23656 Sep 23 2013 fbdev_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 149728 May 7 2015 mach64_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 144856 Jan 18 2017 mga_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66640 May 8 2015 neomagic_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 348592 Jan 23 2017 openchrome_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 140992 Jan 18 2017 savage_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77240 Jan 18 2017 sisusb_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66040 Jan 18 2017 tdfx_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 142320 Jan 18 2017 trident_drv.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27760 Oct 28 2015 vesa_drv.so

rcrsn51 · Posted: Fri 07 Sep 2018, 10:26 Post subject:

@trister: Here are some additional thoughts on this issue:

1. The only people who still have these old machines are computer hobbyists and obsessive hoarders. Wink

Everyone else sent them to e-waste recycling long ago.

2. Read proebler's report here about his Computer #4. Even though it wanted the mga driver, the version out of Debian no longer worked with his hardware. I suspect that this will also be true with other ancient video cards.

Luckily, it's easy to install VESA from the console prompt if Xorg fails to start:

trister · Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 110

dcung · Posted: Fri 07 Sep 2018, 20:35 Post subject:

A member (step) provided me with the code I needed for Fatdog
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114126&start=1

rcrsn51 · Posted: Fri 07 Sep 2018, 23:39 Post subject:

With what filesystem is sdb1 formatted?

trister · Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 110

In the 2 PCs I've tried (in the 1 both use vesa and in the other both detect/use i915) I see quite a speed difference.
In normal operations (browsing, libreoffice ,flash games) StretchDog 64bit seems a lot quicker than BionicDog 64bit.

StretchDog loads at start 120+ squashfs and bionicdog loads 10 squashfs (which are the exact ones that I use in StretchDog).

Is this speed difference normal?
It's not that important to me , I just ask out of curiosity.

dcung · Posted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 01:40 Post subject:

fredx181 · Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 3575 Location: holland

fredx181 · Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 3575 Location: holland

dcung · Posted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 04:23 Post subject:

dcung · Posted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 04:50 Post subject:

trister · Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 110