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fredx181


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2018, 15:47    Post subject:  

Hi stemsee, It's in the DEVX (to be precise, the .config is in usr/src/linux-headers-4.15.0-22-generic/)
32-bit:
https://github.com/fredx181/bionicdog/releases/download/v1.1/61-DEVX-BionicDog32_2018-06-04_i386.squashfs
64-bit:
https://github.com/fredx181/bionicdog/releases/download/v1.1/61-DEVX-BionicDog64_2018-06-04_amd64.squashfs

EDIT: kernel config is also in /boot, so no need for DEVX then, I guess.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul 2018, 11:57    Post subject: BionicDog live64 K 4.15.0.22-generic
Subject description: Testing:
 

Testing:

Hi Fred,

Thanks for the above which I have been testing over the past month.
It is great to have a rolling release, running entirely in RAM with the option to save or not at the end of the session.
That is a wicked combination not found in traditional Pups. It opens up the easy possibility of installing an image file to
a stick and that is job finished.
Initial install from the ISO files was to a ext4 partition (sdb3) on a Samsung SSD-850.
Boot was via an additional vesamenu entry on my normal 4GB SD boot card:

Code:
MENU SEPARATOR

LABEL bionicdog
MENU LABEL BionicDog64    sdb3  24/06/18
KERNEL /bionicdog/vmlinuz
# APPEND initrd=/bionicdog/initrd1.xz noauto from=/dev/sdb3/bionicdog/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:/dev/sdb3/bionicdog/casper/
APPEND initrd=/bionicdog/initrd1.xz noauto from=UUID:1a56b14c-c465-4487-b899-f92f572dea8e/bionicdog/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:UUID:1a56b14c-c465-4487-b899-f92f572dea8e/bionicdog/casper/

That continues to update using Synaptic.

Over the last week I have also installed to an 8GB Nano USB2 stick with two partitions - fat32 & ext4
The syslinux.cfg for that contained a single active line.

Code:
default /bionicdog/vmlinuz initrd=/bionicdog/initrd1.xz noauto from=UUID:abcfb1d3-af3a-47a7-b353-379ceccb5ad9/bionicdog/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:UUID:abcfb1d3-af3a-47a7-b353-379ceccb5ad9/bionicdog/casper/


That also worked fine on an old 2012 Samsung Atom net-book with 2 GB of DDR2 RAM and I had been hoping to install it next
to a USB3 stick with a 2 partition (fat32/f2fs) layout but found that the current initramfs lacks support for system boot from f2fs.
It appears that "f2fs" needs to be added to the end of /etc/initramfs-tools/modules before updating the initramfs.
I held off so doing for fear of unintended consequences. In addition to the earlier load of the f2fs kernel module,
f2fs-tools loaded via Synaptic, would also be needed.
Perhaps it is something to consider for the next version.

Full sized screen-shot here: (Press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link)
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1qjkigd7mY-hk-n5zMXmDrEDAyw6uTWTP

Thanks once again.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul 2018, 21:24    Post subject:  

Hi.

Is there a real time kernel available for BionicDog?

If so, what would I need to do to have BionicDog running with such real time kernel?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul 2018, 13:52    Post subject:  

ETP wrote:
Testing:


Thanks for testing !!
About f2fs support, I could make it work for 32-bit but not for 64-bit, don't know why, very frustrating !!
Nice (looking at your screenshot), what you've done with it.

@ITSMERSH, I think I can make a "package" for a realtime kernel from a Debian Sid version (seems like Ubunu doesn't provide it, only option "low latency" kernel). Is it for 32-bit what you need ?

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul 2018, 15:38    Post subject:  

Hi Fred.

Yes, 32bit.

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jul 2018, 05:22    Post subject:  

Hi ITSMERSH, here's real time kernel 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-rt-686-pae for BionicDog 32-bit
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/2p88v6mcsyc6nx8/kernel-4.16.0-0.bpo.2-rt-686-pae.tar.gz?dl=1 It's from Debian Backports.
Extract in "casper" folder, should overwrite initrd1.xz and vmlinuz.
(better backup these files first)

Reboot

Hopefully it works as you would expect.
One small problem I had sometimes that starting X took very long.
I found that holding a key (e.g. Alt) for a few seconds triggered it and X started for me.
(no idea why, btw)

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jul 2018, 08:36    Post subject:  

Hi Fred,

I finally finished my frontend for git (program name wiagit). I needed it cos my memory is too short these days to remember all the git commands on my own.

Developed and tested on XenialDog64 but should work fine on any recent system that has gtkwialog (required).

Find wiagit deb package at below link (I put depends on gtkdialog in Debian control since I noted your gtkdialog deb from XenialDog64 repo contains gtkwialog - hope that works for you):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1000715

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jul 2018, 12:49    Post subject:  

Thanks wiak !!

Looks very advanced your wiagit program, I guess you learned much more about git usage.
I added it to Xenial and Bionic 'Dog' repos, also added new "gtkdialog_0.8.5-wiak-B-1" package to Bionicdog repos now.
Quote:
(I put depends on gtkdialog in Debian control since I noted your gtkdialog deb from XenialDog64 repo contains gtkwialog - hope that works for you):

Yes, should work fine that way, I wanted to avoid having both gtkdialog and gtkwialog in repos, so in control file "Depends: gtkdialog" is the best IMHO.
(this assumes to have latest "gtkdialog" (0.8.5-wiak-B) installed, but that will be automatically done if a package depending on gtkdialog will be installed or upgraded)

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jul 2018, 19:57    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Thanks wiak !!

Looks very advanced your wiagit program, I guess you learned much more about git usage.


Yes, I understand it all better now... When I earlier uploaded the source code for gtkwialog repo I had no idea what I was doing so just made a brand new repo with my new sources because I didn't know how to merge in my changes to legacy gtkdialog code. Drawback, which I recognised, is that the previous gtkdialog tracking history gets lost doing things so crudely. I'll fix/redo that later. i.e. re-fork legacy gtkdialog again and then correctly merge in my additions on the DebianDog gtkwialog repo. I'm taking a rest for now though.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2018, 06:48    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Thanks wiak !!

Looks very advanced your wiagit program, I guess you learned much more about git usage.
I added it to Xenial and Bionic 'Dog' repos, also added new "gtkdialog_0.8.5-wiak-B-1" package to Bionicdog repos now.


Sorry, Fred, I updated wialog slightly (just cosmetic alteration that was annoying me). Kept same version number because too lazy to change it:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1000810#1000810

I am unlikely to alter it so quickly again...

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2018, 15:54    Post subject:  

Hi wiak, OK, no problem, replaced with your new package (same version number) in repos.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2018, 15:56    Post subject:  

Hi Fred.

Thanks for the real time kernel.

Right now I'm downloading real time kernel 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-rt-686-pae for BionicDog 32-bit.

Will test later and report.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2018, 19:45    Post subject:  

Hi Fred.

I made some testings on the 64bit kernel.

Boots fine so far, though there seems to be a short delay when loading swap / executing pup_volume_monitor. No need to hit a key somewhere at boot up so far. All programs tested seems to work as expected.

Meanwhile I collected lots of audio programs and made .squashfs modules from that programs. I'm almost finished to be prepared to start recording a video about the use of BionicDog for Audio/MIDI Recordings.

Though I would like to include another part that would need to have the ffado drivers available. Is there something to download, or would you like to create such ffado package, if there's nothing existing to download by now?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2018, 03:21    Post subject:  

ITSMERSH wrote:

I made some testings on the 64bit kernel..

Typo? I thought you used 32-bit.

Quote:
Though I would like to include another part that would need to have the ffado drivers available. Is there something to download, or would you like to create such ffado package, if there's nothing existing to download by now?

You see perhaps here what you need?
https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ffado

If so, these can be installed with Synaptic or apt-get.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2018, 04:52    Post subject:  

Sorry, Fred, updated wiagit to version 0.0.2 already. In using previous version I had a problem with terminal positioning and size (not enough screen space) and once I got used to git I didn't want to have to jump between so many tabs. Hence new version includes a mini-gui version (button on main wiagit first screen or can start mini-gui with command wiagitm).

NOTE WELL that it is important to manually delete previous $HOME/.wiagit before installation of the new version since apt purge doesn't do that I notice.

Much more user-friendly for more experienced git users now in my opinion.

More details on extra terminal handling given on main thread post.

I'm afraid, being early days, quick updates likely after all...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1000944#1000944

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