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Smithy


Joined: 12 Dec 2011
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Mar 2020, 13:21    Post subject:  

Hi, I have put a 5 series kernel in Smokey’s repository. It is set to performance mode and the origin is from Lowtech’s gear Smile It has got pwidgets in it ‘cos I wanted to see what’s going on.
Seems to be running ok in Artful. You just swap the zdrive and vmlinuz and reboot.
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 03 May 2020, 05:30    Post subject:  

Hi, I've put a PulseAudio pet in Smokey's repo.

After installing, a restart of X server should run Pulse.
You can check this by entering htop in the terminal. There should be running entries for pulseaudio.

NOTES:
The default audio is set to load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:0,0
This can be found in /etc/pulseaudio/default.pa (if you need to change it to hw:x,x, whatever your hardware is)

Here are some commands that may be useful:
pulseaudio
Starts the service

pulseaudio -vvvvv
Gives a readout in terminal

pacmd list-sources | egrep '^\s+name: .*alsa_input'

pacmd list-sources | egrep '^\s+name:.*\.monitor'

pacmd list-sinks | egrep '^\s+name: .*alsa_output'

Lists Sources and sinks

pulseaudio --kill
Kills pulseaudio
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ciento

Joined: 17 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Tue 05 May 2020, 15:06    Post subject:  

Any chance that pulse-module-jack could be added? Not sure
if it's in a standard repo yet. That allows for easy jamming/recording
with movies, streaming services etc

A wine-staging pet every 6 months or so would also
be a musical blessing. I have no idea the man-hours needed for such things,
I have a 90 gig bionic64 savefile that was working well, but my
win 7 partition where it resides, became lvm_2, and can't be accessed til I figure
out a Hirens or other recovery setup.

I was smart enough to regularly back up my Studio 1337 savefiles... Smile

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Wed 06 May 2020, 07:09    Post subject:  

Can you post up some routing scenario ideas that you had in mind ciento ?
Easier would be ol’ school SMPTE timecode striped to a track maybe.

There’s this setup for noodling ideas I guess. If you need vlc jack let me know.
If someone wants to put a module together I will incorporate it and test for reliability.
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ciento

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PostPosted: Wed 06 May 2020, 14:17    Post subject:  

here's what I often do
1. start qjackctl
2. command a2jmidid -j default
3. command /usr/bin/alsa_in -j HDA-intel "HDA Intel PCH" -q 1 2>&1 1> /dev/null
(this step utilizes HAL, as installed from a ppa, used in Ubuntu Studio 19.10)
4. launch Chrome browser
5. Start a movie
6. Pause the movie, and make a rakarrack effects chain that
fits the score
Start Yoshimi synth or Reaper if keyboard is desired instead of guitar.

VLC jack module would be great, as there are great downloaded youtubes
to jam/practice with. A jack module for SMplayer might also
be popular.

.w64 support in those media players would also be useful.

Sad Is that a laundry list, or a grocery list ? Wink

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Wed 06 May 2020, 17:41    Post subject:  

A hitlist Wink
Now I know why your save file is 90gb.......................................................................

I tend to use 16, 32 bit float or 24 bit max for Audio.
Edit: Just had a look in Qtractor and it will do sony w64 and float, he really put some options in there.

That said, there is an SMplayer Jack in Smokey’s repo for it, it pipes through jack as Mplayer.
Catia is a graphic patchbay and when you play a movie or audio track it should appear in qtractor router.

I tend to build a “rack” in Qtractor, and/ or send it out to external dsp, but I think RSH might have had a Rackarrack amongst other things that he made.

Anyways you can give it a try and see if it suits.

Nearly covered your laundry list except for the bionic64 and drive technical hitch (no idea with that) and wine.
I actually dragged in an old libcelt library thing for wine and it improved vastly. Not sure why though yet...
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O.F.I.N.S.I.S.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 May 2020, 19:56    Post subject:  

Quote:
I tend to build a “rack” in Qtractor, and/ or send it out to external dsp, but I think RSH might have had a Rackarrack amongst other things that he made.

Sorry, but no.
There's no .sfs files or anything at the smokey01 repo for bionic64 or any other 64bit operating system.
I'm running my own WoofCE build of Bionic64 and all music applications are builtin to the base .sfs.
Only programs different from music programs is placed into .sfs files to load via sfs_load, like video, graphics and office programs.
Some additional programs are placed into extra .sfs files like the adrv, gdrv, mdrv, ndrv, vdrv.
Since I have a new computer with 16GB of ram and 12 cpu cores I changed my general purpose on the use of Puppy a little.
But I'm still running it completely without any save file or save folder.

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ciento

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PostPosted: Wed 06 May 2020, 22:14    Post subject:  

Smithy wrote:

Anyways you can give it a try and see if it suits.


I actually dragged in an old libcelt library thing for wine and it improved vastly. Not sure why though yet...
Whats a good download site?
https://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_music2go??

'if you drag an old lib around a trailer park,
you never know what could happen' Laughing

Thanks for working on a cool distro!
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Thu 07 May 2020, 03:25    Post subject:  

Ha, yes, there could be a rodeo involved...

Components here ciento:

http://www.smokey01.com/Smithy/Artful%20ardvark/

And here's a cheery little tune from myself and one of my folksy friends, which I was thinking of updating/injecting with dettol to apply to mr covid.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8rlsi51c6li678e/Virus.mp3?dl=1
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ciento

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PostPosted: Thu 07 May 2020, 06:26    Post subject:  

Nice tune, it has the 'Dust in the Wind' vibe.
Makes me glad I roasted a turkey this week.
Four days of turkey sandwiches, and I'll be
looking for something to bar-b-Q.
That's a nice repository you've got set up.
I didn't even need a mask, although my wife thinks
any mask would be an improvement Rolling Eyes
Cheers
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Fri 08 May 2020, 05:15    Post subject:  

Thanks, I've not heard that Kansas song for a long long time.
I use Spotify these days, because at least musicians will get enough for a turkey burger after a million plays, such is the state of play. Google killed the radio star.
And I prefer to listen, not watch.
Good luck with your setup ciento, however it pans out Smile
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ciento

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PostPosted: Thu 21 May 2020, 01:20    Post subject:  

I posted a little guide about the now easier use of the effects section from
the linux port of the Surge synth, on audio tracks in a daw,
with a screenshot attached showing the settings/appearance.
It's now over in the Multimedia section.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=118808

The example was from Bionic64, but pretty sure would be even better
in Music2go-Artful. I tried to include each and every step of the process,
pretty easy once the path is trodden a few times, but not
linear/logical at the first go.

Surge synth was created by one of the Bitwig founding partners,
and donated to the open source world so those desiring to
modernize it could have a go, and the linux version is
an excellent free instrument with a fine set of 9 different effects.
I use it for guitar, when not playing the synth itself. Vocals,
podcasts, mic'ed/cabled instruments could all be put in the chain,
when an audio i/o is established. Download links are in the topic.
Free is a very good price!
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2020, 04:56    Post subject:  

There is a Pulse Audio Volume Control pet in Smokey’s repo.
This complements the pulse audio subsystem and provides pretty flexible routing options especially if you have multiple audio interfaces.

I’ve tested it with new Firefox 76 (which is also in the repo, I have disabled updates ‘cos this stuff is always jumping off and trying to sort your life out) VLC , SMPlayer, wine preloader media player XMPlay and it all seems pretty automatic and doesn’t seem to interfere with regular ALSA.
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foxpup

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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2020, 05:10    Post subject: questions about pulseaudio  

Yes, pulseaudio gives better detection and control than apulse.
But Puppy comes with apulse.

With your pets for pulseaudio, do apulse and pulsesaudio live together?
I've experimented a little, like a dummy,
and when I installed pulseaudio from the packages of ubuntu, pulseaudio did not just work and even apulse seemed to be broken.
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2020, 06:22    Post subject:  

Hi Foxpup, the pets are for this derivative only.
It has apulse pulse audio emulation in it, doesn’t seem to be causing problems but I don’t start Firefox with apulse command.

FatDog or Fred’s Dog’s might be a decent candidate for a package manager type install.
Josejp Buster has it built in.
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