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#121 Post by roadkill13 »

I did a fresh install of the Starter Kit and followed fred's instructions. They worked for me.
I have no doubt that the instructions work just fine for most. The instructions for making it work on deb-multimedia.org seem to presume that the method described should work. It also seems to acknowledge that it does not always work. Which is why the 2 options for resolving the issue are posted on that site as quoted in my previous post.

I am not complaining or attempting to report a bug. I just happened to be one of the folks that had an issue. I discovered I am not the only one using a debian or debian based system to have that issue and that there is a solution. I thought it might be appropriate to share that in the event someone else encountered the same thing.

I am enjoying the use of this starter kit. Thank you very much for that.

edited for grammar.

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#122 Post by rcrsn51 »

Here is the Starter Kit on an HP 210-G1 laptop with a Core i3 processor and 4GB RAM. The video is i915 modesetting.

This was originally a Win8 machine with UEFI, but was refurbished to Win10 and legacy mode. I scrapped the Win10 and restored UEFI mode. HP has one of the simpler UEFI setups.

The unit has Intel WiFi/Bluetooth and requires the extra package firmware-iwlwifi. Everything else works OOTB, including HDMI output. It runs the Google Chrome browser as a squashfs module.

The battery no longer charges fully, so Batterup provides better control.
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#123 Post by roadkill13 »

fredx181 wrote:

Quote:
There is deb-mutimedia repository which can be activated by uncommenting it (remove the "#" ) from /etc/apt/sources.list, so becomes this:
Code:
#Debian Multimedia
deb ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org/ stretch main non-free

Then, in terminal:
Code:
apt-get update

EDIT: And install deb-multimedia-keyring:
Code:
apt-get install deb-multimedia-keyring
apt-get update


Wouldn't work for me. Apt refused to update due to lack of pubkey. It could not download the multimedia keyring.

I resolved the issue this way:

wget http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main ... .1_all.deb

I installed this file from the right click menu then ran apt update.
Attached is a screenie of the terminal. It can be seen that APT refused to update using the deb-multimedia repo. It simply disabled it and left me off at the prompt. I will again install the keyring manually.

I did this after a clean reinstall.
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#124 Post by fredx181 »

roadkill13 wrote:Attached is a screenie of the terminal. It can be seen that APT refused to update using the deb-multimedia repo. It simply disabled it and left me off at the prompt. I will again install the keyring manually.
Yes, that's what I get also when doing apt-get update.
But I can install packages from deb-multimedia if I type y when prompted something like:
Install these packages without verification? y/n
To get rid of that question I installed the keyring with apt-get (and needed to type y again first).
Don't get me wrong, I believe you when you say that it works different for you, it's apparently a hit and miss thing.

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#125 Post by roadkill13 »

Hi Fred,

Thank you for your response.

As you can see in the attached screenie I am not able to interact during the process so there is no possibility of forcing the update and installing the keyring from the cli. This happens with the starter kit and with the installs created from the mklive-stretch script. I have done at least half a dozen clean installs and have had the same thing happen each time.

The workaround was easy enough to figure out so that it is not a game changer though. I am having great fun.

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#126 Post by rcrsn51 »

Here is the Starter Kit on an Acer C720 Chromebook. It has a Celeron 2957U (Haswell) CPU, 4GB RAM and a 16GB SSD.

It is 100% hardware-compatible OOTB. The conversion from ChromeOS to Linux is routine.
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#127 Post by ETP »

rcrsn51 wrote:Here is the Starter Kit on an Acer C720 Chromebook. It has a Celeron 2957U (Haswell) CPU, 4GB RAM and a 16GB SSD.

It is 100% hardware-compatible OOTB. The conversion from ChromeOS to Linux is routine.
Hi rcrsn51,

Could you please detail your specific steps for the routine conversion from ChromeOS to Linux on the C720?
In addition is that process safely reversible?
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#128 Post by rcrsn51 »

1. Do you own a C720?
2. Have you investigated the general techniques for switching a Chromebook to Linux?
3. Have you already worked with the Starter Kit?
4. Have you put it on a bootable flash drive using its frugal-install tool?
5. Have you used the alternate initrd1.xz?
6. Have you done a hard drive install of the Starter Kit after booting from the flash drive?
In addition is that process safely reversible?
I cannot guarantee that.

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#129 Post by ETP »

rcrsn51 wrote:1. Do you own a C720?
2. Have you investigated the general techniques for switching a Chromebook to Linux?
3. Have you already worked with the Starter Kit?
4. Have you put it on a bootable flash drive using its frugal-install tool?
5. Have you used the alternate initrd1.xz?
6. Can you do a hard drive install after booting from the flash drive?
In addition is that process safely reversible?
I cannot guarantee that.
Hi rcrsn51,
1. Do you own a C720?
No, but my wife does & so I would want the option to put it back exactly as it was.

2. Have you investigated the general techniques for switching a Chromebook to Linux?
Not for years but I seem to recall that back then there was mention of something called cruton(?)
and it involved flashing the BIOS.

3. Have you already worked with the Starter Kit?

No, just downloaded it pending a reply.

4. Have you put it on a bootable flash drive using its frugal-install tool?
No.

5. Have you used the alternate initrd1.xz?

Only as in BionicDog.
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#130 Post by rcrsn51 »

I am not using Crouton. I am using techniques from here.

Read here for info about restoring ChromeOS. Linux is discussed at the bottom.

I have done this successfully, but it probably deletes the previous user's (your wife) content.

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#131 Post by westwest »

Is there a DEVX available for the 4.9.0-6 64 bit kernel?
I could not find one in Fred's repo or on the forum...

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#132 Post by rcrsn51 »

Do you want it specifically for compiling kernel modules?

You can build your own mini-devx using apt2sfs.

Include two packages: build-essential and linux-headers-4.9.0-6-amd64

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#133 Post by westwest »

Yes, it would be for a VirtualBox installation.
I've tried both apt2sfs and repo2sfs without success, could you give more detailed instructions?

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#134 Post by rcrsn51 »

westwest wrote:I've tried both apt2sfs and repo2sfs without success
Explain.
Did the squashfs module not get built?
Could you not activate it?
Would it not compile what you need?
Were there error messages?

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#135 Post by fredx181 »

@westwest

Maybe you found out already, anyway for info:
Virtualbox is not in the Stretch repository by default, so you need to add virtualbox repo to sources.list, see here:
https://www.linuxbabe.com/debian/instal ... -9-stretch

And regarding the kernel source, you can install linux-headers:

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apt-get install linux-headers-4.9.0-6-all
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#136 Post by westwest »

Thanks Fred and rcrsn51,

I had already installed the kernel headers (made into a SFS using repo2sfs)
and have now modified the sources.list for Virtualbox (and installed the keyring).

As for the devx, i simply entered "devx" and "mini-devx" into apt2sfs and repo2sfs as i would for any other application... either packages were not found, as it is perhaps not a package?

There is obviously more to the procedure...

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#137 Post by rcrsn51 »

You can build your own mini-devx using apt2sfs.

Include two packages: build-essential and linux-headers-4.9.0-6-amd64
Run apt2sfs (it's in the DDog Special menu). Enter the above two files. Name the resulting module "mini-devx.squashfs".
I had already installed the kernel headers (made into a SFS using repo2sfs)
and have now modified the sources.list for Virtualbox (and installed the keyring).
Then what is going wrong?

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#138 Post by rcrsn51 »

ETP wrote:Could you please detail your specific steps for the routine conversion from ChromeOS to Linux on the C720?
Is this discussion over?

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#139 Post by johnywhy »

fredx181 wrote:Here's for XFCE lovers (includes me :) ) an alternative "Starter Kit" with full XFCE desktop.
32-bit ISO:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0gq ... 6.iso?dl=1 Size 160MB
hi Fred, thx for this awesomeness. Seems a more complete implementation of xfce than StretchDog32-openbox_xfce-jwm-2017-10-10 (my current main OS).

but, failed to install an Opera deb, using "install.deb(s)"
opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
https://deb.pkgs.org/universal/opera-i3 ... 6.deb.html

This deb installed no problem on StretchDog32-openbox_xfce-jwm-2017-10-10.

Here's RPM
https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop ... 898/linux/
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#140 Post by rcrsn51 »

Page 1 has instructions for building an Opera squash module out of the deb.

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