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bigpup


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 11:24    Post subject:  

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I'm using fatdog64.

Understand that could be several different versions of Fatdog64.

Always, always, always give the exact specific version.

I will assume Fatdog64-720

You can use the Grub4dos boot loader that comes in Puppy.
Run Grub4dos bootloader config.
Select the usb drive as the device to install to.
Check search only within this device.
All other options are OK unchecked.
OK.
OK.
OK.
done.
Now when you boot with the USB, it should boot to the Grub4dos boot menu.

One thing I had to do with the menu entry for Fatdog64 -720.
Had to add waitdev=5 to the end of the kernel line.
This is to overcome a timing issue with how Fatdog boots.
Without this, it boots and looks for the save, before loading all the drives and has problem finding the Fatdog save.

Example of Grub4dos menu entry:
Code:
title Fatdog64 (sdc6/Fatdog64720b)
  uuid 6b517a5d-03c6-4635-96c5-659b29518c84
  kernel /Fatdog64720b/vmlinuz   psubdir=Fatdog64720b pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck waitdev=5
  initrd /Fatdog64720b/initrd

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 11:49    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Quote:
I'm using fatdog64.

Understand that could be several different versions of Fatdog64.

Always, always, always give the exact specific version.

I will assume Fatdog64-720

You can use the Grub4dos boot loader that comes in Puppy.
Run Grub4dos bootloader config.
Select the usb drive as the device to install to.
Check search only within this device.
All other options are OK unchecked.
OK.
OK.
OK.
done.
Now when you boot with the USB, it should boot to the Grub4dos boot menu.

One thing I had to do with the menu entry for Fatdog64 -720.
Had to add waitdev=5 to the end of the kernel line.
This is to overcome a timing issue with how Fatdog boots.
Without this, it boots and looks for the save, before loading all the drives and has problem finding the Fatdog save.

Example of Grub4dos menu entry:
Code:
title Fatdog64 (sdc6/Fatdog64720b)
  uuid 6b517a5d-03c6-4635-96c5-659b29518c84
  kernel /Fatdog64720b/vmlinuz   psubdir=Fatdog64720b pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck waitdev=5
  initrd /Fatdog64720b/initrd


You're right: I'll check tonight the version: I don't remember if I downloaded 720 or 721.
Anyway, wait a minute... does Grub4dos support UEFI?
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 12:13    Post subject:  

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does Grub4dos support UEFI?

Not if you are going to have secure boot enabled.
It works OK for me, but I have secure boot disabled in the UEFI bioes.

My computer will not even give me the option to boot from a USB with secure boot enabled.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 12:27    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
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does Grub4dos support UEFI?

Not really if you are going to have secure boot enabled.
It works OK for me, but I have secure boot disabled in the UEFI bioes.

My computer will not even give me the option to boot from a USB with secure boot enabled.


Yes: secure boot I have disabled but I thought grub4dos was "bios only". Good to know it can be used on UEFI too.
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