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Fatdog64-720 and 721 Final [11 Jan 2018]
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan 2018, 05:40    Post subject: Re: savefile/folder Auto selection?  

borzeh wrote:
Is it possible after some seconds/minutes it will autoselect first one?

No ... it's a good idea though! Very Happy (Assuming you can ensure that your first entry is the correct one).

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan 2018, 19:19    Post subject:  

snayak wrote:
Package description of pip says:
Code:
python-pip 7.0.3 (Python Package Installer)
pip is package manager for python. You only need to use this if the python package you need is not available in gslapt repository. This package is only needed for python < 2.7.9 (pyton 2.7.9 onwards includes pip as standard).

But I see
Code:
~# pip
bash: /usr/bin/pip: No such file or directory
~#

python version on Fatdog 720 is:
Code:
Python 2.7.11 (default, Mar  8 2016, 14:58:29)
[GCC 4.8.3] on linux2


I'm not too familiar with the set of python packages in the Fatdog64 repository but I think that the description of python-pip 7.0.3 is wrong. I checked the build recipe for python-2.7.11 and it doesn't include pip. So if you need pip you should install package python-pip, I think.

python build recipe, file misc/NEWS wrote:

A configure option, --with-ensurepip[=upgrade|install|no], is available to set the option for subsequent installs; the default for Python 2 is "no" (do not install or upgrade pip).

We should fix the repository either by changing the description of package python-pip, or by building package python with --with-ensurepip=install.

edit: No fix is needed. Just run this command once to install pip -- of course with the devx sfs loaded or python package installed)
python -m ensurepip
Cf: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0453/

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan 2018, 20:10    Post subject: Re: savefile/folder Auto selection?  

borzeh wrote:

When booting , If we have more than one save file , it will prompt which one to use , 1 , 2 etc..
Is it possible after some seconds/minutes it will autoselect first one?

<!-- I need all of them! but use first one most of the time! -->

Thank! Smile

Which boot loader are you using? I have been able to do what I think you want on syslinux and grub2.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 01:33    Post subject:  

Fatdog64 721 has been released which includes new kernel that protects against Spectre and Meltdown.

See first post.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 01:57    Post subject:  

Dear Friends,

https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/sfs/710/teamviewer-12.0.71510-portable.sfs.md5sum.txt

and

https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/sfs/720/teamviewer-12.0.71510-portable.sfs.md5sum.txt

reports same md5sum for both the corresponding binaries.

But actual md5sum of these two binaries vary.

https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/sfs/720/teamviewer-12.0.71510-portable.sfs.md5sum.txt

should say

Code:
 8518a7eaea5902e02bf38ee3b0a48a73  teamviewer-12.0.71510-portable.sfs


or the binaries should be the same?

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 04:00    Post subject:  

snayak wrote:
Code:
 8518a7eaea5902e02bf38ee3b0a48a73  teamviewer-12.0.71510-portable.sfs

That's the correct md5sum. If the binaries don't match, the binary is corrupt.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 04:39    Post subject:  

@snayak, I update my previous answer about python pip.
TLDR; Install pip with
Code:
python -m ensurepip

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 07:46    Post subject:  

EDIT: Notice no longer applicable, so this post is deleted.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 13:02    Post subject: Fatdog64-720 and 721 Final [11 Jan 2018]  

I installed to a 32gb flash drive:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 11 Jan 2018 on Fatdog64 721 Linux 4.14.12 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18 )
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.19.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 17.2.8

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Core 0: @3067 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @3067 MHz

I installed FirefoxESR-52.5.3 from the Fatdog control panel.
There is a pause of 5-10 seconds when bookmarking a web site.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 18:58    Post subject:  

fatdog wrote:
Note: 721 has been re-uploaded within a couple of hours of being published and it now includes the latest Intel microcode update dated 8 Jan 2018. If you have downloaded before you see this note, it's best if you download again. This note will be removed in a couple of days.
I've been running this kernel with pretty good sucess in several pups checking against meltdown and spectre vuln. The meltdown (kpti) patches are working correctly in all cases but I haven't yet gotten the microcode to work. The microcode version should cover my i5 2520. Going from rather distant memory, but I believe line 585 in the kernel .config needs to be set to CONFIG_MICROCODE=y to load code into the kernel at boot.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 19:48    Post subject:  

What is the correct way to upgrade from 720 > 721? I have installed to HDD. I replaced initrd and vmlinuz in /boot/. Upgrade appears to have worked (new Kernel and build number are there) but now I have this issue.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 20:33    Post subject:  

@Billtoo: I will need to check on that FF slowness. Did you have KPTI enabled or not? (If you don't do anything on the boot line, it will be enabled).

Marv wrote:
I've been running this kernel with pretty good sucess in several pups checking against meltdown and spectre vuln. The meltdown (kpti) patches are working correctly in all cases but I haven't yet gotten the microcode to work. The microcode version should cover my i5 2520. Going from rather distant memory, but I believe line 585 in the kernel .config needs to be set to CONFIG_MICROCODE=y to load code into the kernel at boot.

We do indeed have it enabled. "zgrep MICROCODE /proc/config.gz" will confirm that. Every other configuration entries in .config are correct though, that CONFIG_MICROCODE is the only thing missing (added on the last minute but we didn't rebuild the kernel-source.sfs).

Your i5 2520 seems to be introduced in 2011 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5%20Mobile%20I5-2520M%20FF8062700840017%20%28BX80627I52520M%29.html). If what belham2 posted is correct (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=979933#979933) - I haven't verified it - then you're sadly out of luck; you won't be getting any fixes.

I've got two i5, one from 2012 and one from 2014. The one from 2014 gets an update (last update is Nov 2017), the one from 2012 doesn't (last update is 2015).

Btw you can see if your microcode is indeed updated by checking "dmesg | less" and reading the first line.

@jake29: You did correctly. The problem you showed has nothing to do with the upgrade (I think); I've got that occasionally too and so far has not been able to pinpoint the cause. I think it's lxqt-panel bug.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 20:43    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
@jake29: You did correctly. The problem you showed has nothing to do with the upgrade (I think); I've got that occasionally too and so far has not been able to pinpoint the cause. I think it's lxqt-panel bug.

Restarting X has resolved it. Thanks for the quick reply.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 21:02    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:

Marv wrote:
I've been running this kernel with pretty good sucess in several pups checking against meltdown and spectre vuln. The meltdown (kpti) patches are working correctly in all cases but I haven't yet gotten the microcode to work. The microcode version should cover my i5 2520. Going from rather distant memory, but I believe line 585 in the kernel .config needs to be set to CONFIG_MICROCODE=y to load code into the kernel at boot.

We do indeed have it enabled. "zgrep MICROCODE /proc/config.gz" will confirm that. Every other configuration entries in .config are correct though, that CONFIG_MICROCODE is the only thing missing (added on the last minute but we didn't rebuild the kernel-source.sfs).

Your i5 2520 seems to be introduced in 2011 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5%20Mobile%20I5-2520M%20FF8062700840017%20%28BX80627I52520M%29.html). If what belham2 posted is correct (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=979933#979933) - I haven't verified it - then you're sadly out of luck; you won't be getting any fixes.

I've got two i5, one from 2012 and one from 2014. The one from 2014 gets an update (last update is Nov 2017), the one from 2012 doesn't (last update is 2015).

Btw you can see if your microcode is indeed updated by checking "dmesg | less" and reading the first line.

Thanks both for the great kernel and the clear explanation. I've been forcing an update to be sure and checking the date and version of the update using dmesg | grep microcode and have come to the same sad conclusion. The 2520 processor is on intels covered list on their ucode download site but obviously it isn't. Grrrr!

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan 2018, 21:06    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
@Billtoo: I will need to check on that FF slowness. Did you have KPTI enabled or not? (If you don't do anything on the boot line, it will be enabled).


I didn't do anything on the boot line so it's enabled.
I'm getting pauses in other things too, I opened Firefox and it wouldn't go fullscreen right away but it did after maybe 10 seconds.
Also opening VLC isn't immediate but opens and works fine after a pause, it's playing a movie dvd now.
Redrawing the screen isn't working properly at first, both firefox and vlc windows work fine now.
So I get random pauses.

This dual core i3 is around 8 years old.
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