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USB-Mouse not working in Slacko 6.3 after HD install
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Dec 2017, 14:21    Post subject:  

I inserted this to the menu.lst
Code:

title Puppy Linux 431
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /puppy431/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy431 nosmp
initrd /puppy431/initrd.gz

Edit: booting is fine.

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Dec 2017, 14:24    Post subject:  

I could be wrong - BUT - i think the method that uses syslinux (per that link you gave) is not compatible with frugal booting. Use Grub4dos (to build a menu.lst) instead of using syslinux (which builds a syslinux.cfg).
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Dec 2017, 14:39    Post subject:  

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What happens if you try to boot from that stick?



Let me summarise my understanding of what has occurred so far:

1) In the past you have used syslinux, grub and grub4dos to boot puppies from both HDD and USB.

2) You are now trying to use only grub4dos to boot multiple puppies in frugal mode from usb - so that you can easily work out which is the best puppy for your hardware.

I think that is where things are at. Correct me if I am wrong Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Dec 2017, 14:42    Post subject:  

rimatheou wrote:
I inserted this to the menu.lst
Code:

title Puppy Linux 431
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /puppy431/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy431 nosmp
initrd /puppy431/initrd.gz

Edit: booting is fine.


Great. Now you can add extra subdirectories and load a different puppy into each one. Add new menu/lst stanza for each puppy.

Grub4dos is great for booting multiple frugal puppies.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Dec 2017, 15:10    Post subject:  

I just want to add an important note:

- although Grub4dos is great at setting up a stick so that it can boot multiple puppies, it is important to understand that some hardware will not boot from the stick unless certain conditions are met:

1) Some hardware requires FAT32 (or even FAT16) formatting of the stick (EXT not acceptable to some hardware!)
2) Some hardware requires full installation - not frugal.

(The syslinux method used in rcrsn51's thread is usually successful on computers that are touchy with their usb boot requirements. It is a good way to prove that one specific puppy can boot one specific stick on one specific PC - but it is not the right method for trialling multiple frugals)
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec 2017, 06:31    Post subject:  

Here we go, Puppy 500 is not booting:

This is the menu.lst entry:
Code:

title Puppy Linux 500
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /lupu500/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=lupu500 nosmp
initrd /lupu500/initrd.gz

and this is the USB drive:
Code:
ls
grldr  lost+found  lupu500  menu-advanced.lst  menu.lst  puppy431  sdb_mbr.bak

Code:

lupu500$ ls
initrd.gz  lupu-500.sfs  vmlinuz


This is the kernel-message:
Code:

Loading drivers needed to access disk drives.........     done
Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives... lupu-500.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...
[...]


I made everything like I did with Puppy431. If there is another way to install multiple Puppies on a USB drive, this was also very welcome.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec 2017, 14:18    Post subject:  

All I can think of at this stage is to post a boot stanza from my own menu.lst - but bear in mind my menu.lst was built by Grub4Dos 1.8.0 and my disk partitioning is different to yours so my stanza may be irrelevant to your situation:
Code:
title Linux flixpup (sdb2/flixpup)
  uuid 9017fd35-19cd-4708-a090-ce4512a8208d
  kernel /flixpup/vmlinuz psubdir=flixpup pmedia=usbflash
  initrd /flixpup/initrd.gz

(EDIT : I have 12 puppies booting from the same usb stick - this is just one of 12 stanzas in my menu.lst)

If I were you I would try the following:

replacing "pmedia=atahd" with pmedia=usbflash
putting the psubdir= statement before the pmedia statement (probably makes zero difference)

(Note: if you want to use the UUID to help the bootloader identify partition ID as shown in my example you can use the command "blkid" to find the UUID number to include in the menu.lst entry. I do not know if using the UUID will be acceptable to your version of grub4dos or not - but I think you are using a newer Grub4dos version than me so it should be ok )

EDIT2 : could you post the whole menu.lst please? That will let me know your grub4dos version.

EDIT3 :I would also re-iterate Bigpups warning from page 3:
Code:
Note:
With older Puppies ext 3 format is the best.
They may or may not have full support for ext 4.
In order to get consistent booting I never use EXT3 or EXT4 - I always use EXT2. But who knows if this is affecting your boot? We don't know yet.
.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec 2017, 16:25    Post subject:  

You do need to be using the latest version of Grub4dos.
Grub4dos config
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

Lucid Puppies.
lupu500 was the first release of of that version of Puppy. It was really an alpha release for bug fixing and testing.
It was very buggy and had lots of problems.
Lupu501 was released only 10 days later to fix some of them.

If you want to use Lupu (Lucid Puppy).
Start with Lupu 528.005
That was the final release version.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.2.8/lupu-528.005.iso

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jan 2018, 11:40    Post subject:  

I have now tried lupu528.005. Booting from usb and hd was ok. I've installed it on sda1 besides the others. But no wireless networks were found. Which Puppy shall I try next?
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jan 2018, 14:56    Post subject:  

rimatheou wrote:
I have now tried lupu528.005. Booting from usb and hd was ok. I've installed it on sda1 besides the others. But no wireless networks were found. Which Puppy shall I try next?
I think it is worth trying Slacko 5.6 as a comparison:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.6/slacko-5.6-4G-NON-PAE.iso
(and other stuff like md5, devx etc available here)

or Slacko 5.7:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-slacko-5.7/slacko-5.7-NO-pae.iso
(and other stuff like md5, devx etc available here)

Also - there are some 'barebones' versions of various puppies ceated by forum member jrb; see here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83841
(They can fail to load or leave crippled functionality on some hardware but perfect on others)

I think philb did a "unicorn" pup that was lightweight. Will post a link if I find it.

First though - just some questions:

1) Did lupu load the wifi drivers ok and let you start the connection wizards - but then fail to see any wifi networks? (or did it just not see the wifi interfaces at all?)

2) Did puppy 4.3.1 connect to wifi network ok?

3) Are you able to post the output of the following commands?

#lsusb

and

#lspci

cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jan 2018, 08:49    Post subject:  

Puppy 431

Booting from USB:
- Mouse: working
- ethernet interface detected, but no wireless (Simple Network Setup)
- no desktop icons as you see on the picture

Code:

#lsusb
command not found.

Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Class 0600: 1039:0630 (rev 31)
00:00.1 Class 0101: 1039:5513 (rev d0)
00:01.0 Class 0601: 1039:0018
00:01.1 Class 0200: 1039:0900 (rev 82)
00:01.4 Class 0401: 1039:7018 (rev 02)
00:01.6 Class 0703: 1039:7013 (rev a0)
00:02.0 Class 0604: 1039:0001
00:09.0 Class 0607: 1180:0476 (rev 88)
00:09.1 Class 0607: 1180:0476 (rev 88)
00:09.2 Class 0880: 1180:0576
00:0a.0 Class 0c00: 104c:8026
00:0f.0 Class 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
00:0f.1 Class 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
00:0f.2 Class 0c03: 1033:00e0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 Class 0300: 1039:6300 (rev 31)


Booting from HD:
- Mouse: working
- ethernet interface detected, but no wireless (Simple Network Setup)
- no desktop icons as you see on the picture

lsusb and lspci are the same as booting from USB

Lupu528 will follow...
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jan 2018, 08:53    Post subject:  

Lupu528

Booting from USB:
- Mouse: working
- ethernet and wireless interface detected, but no wireless networks found (Simple Network Setup).

Code:

#lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f1:3009
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0951:1665
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 3938:1031


Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C576 SD Bus Host Adapter
00:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)


Booting from HD:
- Mouse: working
- Simple Network Setup detects ethernet and wireless interface, but after scanning no wireless networks were found.

Code:

#lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f1:3009
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 3938:1031
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0951:1665


Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C576 SD Bus Host Adapter
00:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)


Slacko 5.6 will follow...
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jan 2018, 09:18    Post subject:  

Slacko 5.6

Booting from USB:
- Mouse: working
- Simple Network Setup detects ethernet and wireless interface and scanning finds six wireless networks, but not mine.

Code:

#lsusb
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0951:1665 Kingston Technology
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f1:3009 Victor Company of Japan, Ltd MP-XP7250 WLAN Adapter
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 3938:1031 
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub


Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C576 SD Bus Host Adapter
00:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)


Booting from HD:
- Mouse: NOT working, but the trackpoint stick
- No W-LAN interface detected by simple Network Setup.

Code:

#lsusb
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0951:1665 Kingston Technology
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C576 SD Bus Host Adapter
00:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)


Slacko 5.7 will follow...
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jan 2018, 09:42    Post subject:  

Slacko 5.7

Booting from USB:
- Mouse: working
- Simple Network Setup detects ethernet and wlan interface. Scanning finds two wireless networks, but not mine.

Code:

#lsusb
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0951:1665 Kingston Technology
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f1:3009 Victor Company of Japan, Ltd MP-XP7250 WLAN Adapter
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 3938:1031 
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub


Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C576 SD Bus Host Adapter
00:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)


Booting from HD:
- Mouse: NOT working, but the trackpoint stick.
- Simple network Setup detects ethernet interface, but no wireless.

Code:

#lsusb
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0951:1665 Kingston Technology
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


Code:

#lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 88)
00:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C576 SD Bus Host Adapter
00:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)

... done!
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jan 2018, 13:16    Post subject:  

What do you have for a computer. Make model, brand, chip, etc. etc. In the noise of this thread I fail to find this info if you have posted it.

My last computer was an HP G6 laptop i5 with 6 Gig of DDR3 RAM. On many an occasion with any Linux live system (Puppy or otherwise) booting from usb stick gave me no issues but installing to the hard drive made it boot to a black screen. No display at all.

EDIT - Added RAM info

EDIT again - Finally, on the first page. Looked like a sig to me so I missed it. "I have a JVC Mobile Mini Note PC, Pentium 3, 384 MB RAM"
This is an old, old computer.

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