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USB-Mouse not working in Slacko 6.3 after HD install
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Dec 2017, 09:13    Post subject:  

Tahrpup 6.0.6 now is installed, but booting from USB is not possible

Code:
Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format


I've tried 4.3.1 and 5.0. Now I think I have damaged both USB drives, I get an error from gparted:

Code:

set partition type on /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( SUCCESS )
        
new partition type: fat32
create new fat32 file system  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
        
mkfs.fat -F32 -v -I -n " " /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
        
mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16)
mkfs.fat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy


But the device is unmounted and can't be busy.

Do i need a partition table on the usb drive?
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:47    Post subject:  

Quote:
When installing Grub4Dos I have following options:
- Search within only this device
YES

- Do not rewrite 'menu.lst'
- Single page menu
- Legacy compatible 'menu.lst'
- Do not rewrite the existing boot record

Should I activate one of them?

Only the first one. All the boot menu needs is list of what is on the hard drive.

All others should be unchecked.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Dec 2017, 11:13    Post subject:  

rimatheou wrote:
Tahrpup 6.0.6 now is installed, but booting from USB is not possible

Code:
Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format


I've tried 4.3.1 and 5.0. Now I think I have damaged both USB drives, I get an error from gparted:

Code:

set partition type on /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( SUCCESS )
        
new partition type: fat32
create new fat32 file system  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
        
mkfs.fat -F32 -v -I -n " " /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
        
mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16)
mkfs.fat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy


But the device is unmounted and can't be busy.

Do i need a partition table on the usb drive?

To have a partition on it, it has to have a partition table, So, it has one.

This USB drive is definitely unmounted and nothing is running from it?

Note:
Need to be using the Gparted in one of the newer Puppies. (Slacko 6.3.0, Tahrpup 6.0.6, etc...)

Close Gparted.
Unplug the USB drive.
Plug the USB drive back in.
Start Gparted.
If it shows partitions on the drive.
Right click on the first one.
Select check.
If it found any errors.
Keep running the check until no errors reported.
Do this for any other partitions on the drive.

If still getting errors.

Delete all the partitions on the drive and start over partitioning and formatting.

Note:
Would not hurt anything if you made a new partition table before you partitioned and formatted.

Note:
With older Puppies ext 3 format is the best.
They may or may not have full support for ext 4.


YOU need to do this same check of the partitions on the hard drive!!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Dec 2017, 12:44    Post subject:  

Another thing is that the vmlinuz file (pup 4.3.1) on the usb drive and in the extracted folder is not detected from my xubuntu. It must be a dos executable or stuff like that.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Dec 2017, 13:20    Post subject:  

I made a new partition with fdisk (http://ramiro.org/blog/usbdrive-unter-linux-formatieren/), and a new filesystem with mkfs (fat32, i always used this filesystem). Then a dd with the puppy.iso. When I now open gparted, the partition and the filesystem are unallocated. There must be a more crucial command line way to restore the drive.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Dec 2017, 21:36    Post subject:  

If Gparted shows the partition unallocated.
It is not formatted.

If Gparted shows the drive unallocated.
It is not partitioned and formatted.

Just do it using Gparted.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Dec 2017, 06:36    Post subject:  

So far, I think the USB drive is working with FAT 32. I used a different pc to format with gparted.
***
In pup-431.iso I changed the isolinux.cfg from pmedia=cd to pmedia=usbflash. But it is still not possible to boot:
Code:
Booting boot from sdb (Kingston DataTraveler 2.0)
chainloader (hd0)+1
Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format


Hmm...
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Dec 2017, 12:48    Post subject:  

Change it back to pmedia=cd and see what happens.

Understand a lot of stuff has changed in Puppy since Puppy 4.3.1

That isolinux.cfg is about as basic as one could be.

At that time in Puppy development, installs to a usb flash drive was a new thing and not that well supported.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Dec 2017, 13:38    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Change it back to pmedia=cd and see what happens.


I think it will happen the same thing when I booted the first time with pmedia=cd: the above error.

What about the software god? Pray for a solution? There must be one.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Dec 2017, 13:50    Post subject:  

Are you booting from just the files on the USB as a live Puppy or are you booting from a boot loader menu, with an entry for Puppy 4.3.1?
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Dec 2017, 14:16    Post subject:  

Do you have access to a CD drive? I have found that the most reliable method for testing and troubleshooting on older computers is to boot Puppy 4.3.1 from a CD

In terms of identifying why your mouse is not functional I think 4.3.1 will be helpful in diagnosing this - if only you can find a method to boot it into ram.

USB formatting and installation is troublesome on newer puppies - especially when using older hardware. Puppy 4.3.1 contains utilities that are a good match for the boot requirements of older computers such as yours.

After 4.3.1 many puppies "upgraded" their version of "syslinux" and this adversely affects usb booting

I now only use syslinux 3.73 - which is the version that comes with Puppy 4.3.1

If you have no access to CD drive you could try setting up a fresh usb stick with only Puppy 4.3.1 on it.

Here is a good thread to help with this:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54566

I also made myself a list of instructions based on that thread but also with some other steps/clarifications added. It might look complex but I found it more reliable across lots of different hardware than any other method.

My notes are in this post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=902996#902996

Maybe you have a bad copy of Puppy 4.3.1 - I would recommend downloading the iso again (from different location perhaps?) then building a new bootable usb stick.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec 2017, 07:56    Post subject:  

I've now installed pup431 that way: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54566

Now there is no bootloader on hard drive:

While booting:
Code:

Try (hd0,0): EXT2: No grldr
Try (hd0,1): non-MS: skip
Try (hd0,2): Extended:
Try (hd0,3): invalid or null
Try (hd0,4): EXT2: No grldr
Try (hd0,5): Extended:
Try (hd0,5): non-MS: skip
BIOS: Drive = 0x0, H=2, S=18

Try (fd0): invalid or null
Cannot find grldr
...

... grueling...
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec 2017, 11:26    Post subject:  

If you followed that posted topic and did what it said.
syslinux bootloader would be on the USB drive.
syslinux.cfg would be on it with settings for syslinux bootloader to use.

That message says it is looking for stuff for a grub boot loader like Grub4dos.
Did you ever have Grub4dos on the USB drive????????

Why is it looking at 6 different partitions for stuff?
How many partitions are on this USB drive?

Did you Use Gparted to make a new partition table, new partition, and format that partition fat32?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec 2017, 14:16    Post subject:  

It seems as if the bios will not look at the usb drive while the HDD is in that state.

Are you able to remove the HDD and see if the bios now sees a bootable usb stick?

Also - I would like to double check something you said earlier - I think you said that the usb mouse does not function if you boot from Slacko 6.3 installed on hard drive - is that correct?

Did you try unplugging then re-plugging the mouse?
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec 2017, 15:30    Post subject:  

@ bigpup

syslinux bootloader is on the usb drive. I think there is no bootloader on hd.
I never had Grub4Dos on usb, but on hd.
I have two primary partitions on hd, one extended, one logical and one swap.
I used Gparted to make a new partition table etc.
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