xenialPup-7.0.6 32-bits with kernel 4.1

[sheldonisaac]

Hello again, Sheldon and all!

Puppy doing Ubuntu one better? You bet! I prepared for you guys the very latest
version of Claws-mail, v. 3.15.1. (As of this writing.)

You'll find it in the same repo as indicated above, in pet and sfs archive formats.
Enjoy! TWYL.

Many thanks, musher0! I'll add to this post soon, I hope; and will post in the "Internet" area of this forum.

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-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3960832 Nov  6 08:28 /mnt/home/Claws-Mail-3.15.1_exec32_libs.sfs

[musher0]

Thanks, Sheldon.

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@all: I just edited my post here.

BFN.

[musher0]

Hello all.

xenialPup-7 has a brand new mpv application, mpv-0.14, assembled from ubuntu
repos, at
http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/?dir=mushe ... %C3%A9dias

I had to do it because 1) mpv is an excellent media player and 2) the mpv Precise
version (which was obsolete, anyway) has been retired from the Puppy/Quirky depots
on ibiblio. In other words, we Puppists did not have the mpv media player available.

It's not a pet, and not an sfs. It's a zip archive containing deb files...
I see your faces getting longer!

Sorry for this departure from Puppy usage, but why unpack the deb archives and
repack them as pet archives when petget and an adapted script can do the job.

If there is a request, I will assemble an sfs for this package.

How-to: In short,
-- download the above zip archive somewhere convenient and safe.
-- Unzip it.
-- A directory called < mpv-xenialPup7-install/ > will be created.
-- Enter this directory.
-- Make script < installe-mpv-pr-xenialPup.sh > executable with command

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chmod +x installe-mpv-pr-xenialPup.sh

-- Then run this script.

I stopped short of launching mpv for you!

Please read the following excerpt from the script if you need more info.

(,,,)
#
# Goal: install the mpv media player and the libraries
# it needs to run on the "xenialPup7" Puppy.
#
# Dependency: the "liste" file. # (Should be attached. Check ! )
#
# Usage:
# Open a terminal where you have unzipped the archive and
# type, without the chevrons: < installe-mpv-pr-xenialPup.sh >.
#
# Puppy's usual installer will pop up for each archive. Answer to
# its prompts with your cursor, as usual.
#
# This script also installs an additional desktop file for an mpv-dvd
# entry in the menu, plus the corresponding png icons and script.
##################
#
# NOTE --
# The attached *.deb archives, listed in the "liste" file, come from
# the packs.org site, which itself references to the ubuntu depots.
#
# For example, the "libguess" library":
# http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/
# rubberband/librubberband2v5_1.8.1-6ubuntu2_i386.deb
# (Concatenate the two previous lines to recreate the URL.)
#
# Similarly for the other archives.
##################
#
# musher0, 10 nov. 2017. GPL3
####

Also included in the zip archive are a forum page about running movies on dvd and an
except from the mpv man page, from:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... dvd-movies

Enjoy.

[musher0]

Hello all.

Here is a simple webp pet to create and convert webp images, simpler than
the ready-made one proposed by Google at
https://storage.googleapis.com/download ... -32.tar.gz

Google's ready-made package is distro-agnostic, AFAIK, while this one was
compiled on and for xenialPup-7. However Google's ready-made package is
much bigger.

I compiled it from this source:
https://storage.googleapis.com/download ... 6.1.tar.gz

The compilation configuration is:

./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-static=no

The capacity of the package is:

WebP Configuration Summary
--------------------------
Shared libraries: yes Static libraries: no
Threading support: yes libwebp: yes
libwebpdecoder: no libwebpdemux: no
libwebpmux: no libwebpextras: no

Tools:
cwebp : yes
Input format support
====================
JPEG : yes PNG : yes
TIFF : yes WIC : no
dwebp : yes

Output format support
=====================
PNG : yes WIC : no
GIF support : yes anim_diff : no
gif2webp : no img2webp : no
webpmux : no vwebp : no
webpinfo : no SDL support : yes
vwebp_sdl : yes

Hashes and tree of the pet are attached.

The interest of having this package is the interface it provides with the pnmtojpeg
utility from the netpbm suite, so you can convert a webp image to a jpg image.
Combining the two utilities like so::

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dwebp 2.webp -ppm -o 2.ppm
pnmtojpeg -quality=99 2.ppm > 2.jpg

A fresh compile of the most recent netpbm suite (as of this writing) is available on
the 1st post of this thread.

Please note that some Puppies are shipped with the pnmtojpeg utility.

BFN.

[tallboy]

Hi musher0.
The site for the mpv application contain several mpv files not mentioned by you in the post above, could you please clarify if there is a change to the installation process?

tallboy

[ally]

mpv precise available here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 7f9dc479e0

[musher0]

Hi musher0.
The site for the mpv application contain several mpv files not mentioned by you in the post above, could you please clarify if there is a change to the installation process?

tallboy

Hello tallboy.

Thanks for noticing.

I announced my work on mpv version 0.27 on the French side of the forum,
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#974099
but forgot to announce it on the English side (here).

If you choose the sfs, please also unzip and run the script in the "complement" file
the first time you use the sfs. This will set a few essential symlinks.

The unnumbered mpv file marked "install" in that list is a repeat of jlst's precise
package, which is mpv version 0.14, but for xenial. I had not noticed that jlst had
already offered a package when I packaged it. Sorry about that.

If it's still unclear, please ask again? TIA.

IHTH

[tallboy]

Thank you, ally and musher0.
I see that Xenialpup CE 7.5 with kernel 4.4.95 has mpv installed. It is probably the incorrect thread to ask, but what are the main differences between that Xenialpup and your 7.0.6 with kernel 4.1? My PCs are mostly old P4s.

tallboy

[musher0]

Thank you, ally and musher0.
I see that Xenialpup CE 7.5 with kernel 4.4.95 has mpv installed. It is probably the incorrect thread to ask, but what are the main differences between that Xenialpup and your 7.0.6 with kernel 4.1? My PCs are mostly old P4s.

tallboy

Hi tallboy.

Answer : kernel 4.1 32-bit.

I created this xenialPup as an emotional reaction to the various xenialPups offered
with kernel 4.9, which were "as fast as molasses in winter" on my old machine.

Nobody was taking my criticism seriously, I was even being covertly mocked about
it, so I decided to swing into action. Deeds speak louder than words, right?

I also did it to test wiak's automaton for creation of Puppies from the woof-CE, which
was in development at the time. It worked fine.

In the days following the publication of my xenialPup 32 bits with kernel 4.1,
an easier way to switch kernels in woof-CE, inspired by stemsee's work on kernels,
was found and became available. Suddenly, the Puppy devs re-discovered it was ok
to offer an older kernel for older machines in addition to the most recent kernel.

My input was never mentioned, but that is not so important. Hell will freeze over
before ideaware is credited correctly in these parts. AFAIK, I am one of the few devs
on this board trying to back-track and credit his sources.

I did not compare the software offered in 666philb's recently published xenialPup
versus the apps offered in mine.

I hope this answers your question.

BFN.

[tallboy]

Thank you for the info, musher0.

What does CE stand for?

tallboy

[stowpirate]

Aspire One Netbook WiFi module? Will not load automatically so dropped from build?

[mikeslr]

Hi stowpirate,

Most likely, it's a problem with XenialPup not recognizing your graphics card/driver. But to even get started trying to figure out what, if anything, can be done we'd need more information, such as:

Specific model --they have names and numbers-- of your Aspire One Netbook WiFi. That much at least might provide a clue enabling us to search for its specs which might give us one or more possible graphics cards/drivers installed by Aspire.

Most operating systems have installed, or available to be installed, applications to provide reports about hardware present. Can you boot into any Puppy? If so, see if Pup-Sysinfo is on Menu>Systems. If not, you can obtain it here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 411#579411



mikesLr

[musher0]

Thank you for the info, musher0.

What does CE stand for?

tallboy

"CE" stands for "Community Edition".

[musher0]

Aspire One Netbook WiFi module? Will not load automatically so dropped from build?

Hello stowpirate.

I must confess I know nothing about wifi. I have a very good cable service and I
seldom travel.

The drivers for wifi, sound cards, mice, tablets, etc., etc., are in the sfs called
zdrv_xenial_7.0.6.sfs. This sfs should be in the same directory where you installed
your xenialPup.

In my builds, I never "drop" anything important like drivers.

As mikesLr mentioned, we need more info, some specs, in other words, about
your Pup and your hardware, so we can go hunting for your wifi driver.

It's probably in the zdrv; it could be that it is not activated, and there's a relatively
easy technique for that.

If it is not in the zdrv, your wifi driver is probably on the Internet somewhere, and
then it is a matter of hunting it down, incorporating it to the Pup and activating it.

I suspect the hardest part may be the "hunting". Because it is not that difficult to
incorporate/install an additional driver to a Linux.

BFN.

[musher0]

@stowpirate:

Someone is asking a similar question here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#976998

IHTH.

[musher0]

Hello all.

I've assembled a sfs out of the F-Prot Anti-Virus utility, which still exists.

If you need a simple to use but good AV, it's available through here.

Enjoy.

[s243a]

Hello musher0,

I noticed that you main link linked to a french version. I'm not sure if this is right one or not for English users.

I saw some version here:
http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/?dir=mushe ... Os_de_base

that didn't say french and look like they might be using an older kernal. I'm downloading them also to try. Have you noticed any speed difference with going older then the 4.1 kernal or did you find the 4.1 kernal optimal on your system? How old was the computer tat you tested it on?

[Sailor Enceladus]

Have you noticed any speed difference with going older then the 4.1 kernal or did you find the 4.1 kernal optimal on your system? How old was the computer tat you tested it on?

In my experience, musher0's Xenialpup-7.0.6 performs the best and seems the most stable out of all the modern puppies (ie. puppy 7-series) I've tried on my laptop, which is almost 13 years old now.

[s243a]

Have you noticed any speed difference with going older then the 4.1 kernal or did you find the 4.1 kernal optimal on your system? How old was the computer tat you tested it on?

In my experience, musher0's Xenialpup-7.0.6 performs the best and seems the most stable out of all the modern puppies (ie. puppy 7-series) I've tried on my laptop, which is almost 13 years old now.

But do we get the same results for newer machines? For instance on virtualbox on a more modern machine I found Racy to be quite a bit faster than Wary even though Wary has an older kernal.

Perhaps there is a trade-off where older kernals are faster on older mahcines but only to a point and after said point the newer kernal will actually be faster.

Perhaps the official Xenialpup 4.9 kernal is faster on the most bleeding edge machines but for most machines the 4.1 kernal will be faster and this is especially true for older computers.

[musher0]

Have you noticed any speed difference with going older then the 4.1 kernal or did you find the 4.1 kernal optimal on your system? How old was the computer t[h]at you tested it on?

In my experience, musher0's Xenialpup-7.0.6 performs the best and seems the most stable out of all the modern puppies (ie. puppy 7-series) I've tried on my laptop, which is almost 13 years old now.

Geez, Sailor.

You should try to warn me in advance if you know you are going to write
compliments like that about my work. Your words went right to my head!!! ROFL
Unexpected, it's quite a feeling!!! I had to hang on to my chair and breathe
from a paper bag for a full minute!

Simply put: Many thanks for the unexpected compliment!

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@s243a:

In French, we have a proverb that goes: "Who can do more can do less," Same
with computers. Replace "who" with "what", and you have a general principle for
any technology.

IMO, unless one absolutely needs feature X in the newest kernel, why use it if the
Puppy runs more than well with an older kernel on your older machine?

I think Anglophones have a related saying: "If it runs, don't fix it?"

I hope the above paragraphs answer your question at least in part.

BFN.