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#511 Post by peebee »

mavrothal wrote:Is there any devx?
Yes - I have a devx which I've used to build a compatible version of ffmpeg (but got errors trying to compile MPlayer so had to "bodge" that)....

BUT leafpad for example is an Ubuntu Bionic app so I wouldn't be recompiling that...maybe the errors will "go away" as BB approaches release.....strange thing is everything seems to work (except Frisbee) despite the error messages.
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#512 Post by Dry Falls »

shared-mime-info has changed in woof-ce, however I only see the problem red triangles for some old .isos which seem to have type model/stl.x-binary - but if you change the type to application/x-cd-image then they display and behave correctly. I can't see which bit of shared-mime-info-0.70-6.pet fixes this....
It's the same in slackware. Install the new version, but retain /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml from the old version.

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#513 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello peebee,

I think most of the mime-types are defined in the .xml files in /usr/share/mime/packages with the bulk of the generic stuff being in freedesktop.org.xml

If you look at this in the new shared-mime-info and search for .iso or application/x-cd-image it looks more complicated than in the old package in which it is clearly defined as just one association. The .cat files could also be defined as well if they show as red triangles. ROX sees those as unknown "octet stream" files with the old package.
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#514 Post by Billtoo »

I did a manual frugal install to the hard drive:

System: Host: puppypc1267 Kernel: 4.9.86-lxpup-32-pae i686 bits: 32 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: UBB-Pup 18.03
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HPE-410f serial: MXX0370KF3
Mobo: FOXCONN model: 2AB1 v: 1.00 serial: N/A BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.02 date: 07/21/2010
CPU: 6 core AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1031.7GB (1.2% used)
Weather: Conditions: 34 F (1 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: March 12, 6:18 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 197 Uptime: 5 min Memory: 158.9/8092.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Installed vlc-3.01,kpat,smplayer/smtube,arandr,gkrellm,inxi,kodi-17.6

kodi-17.6 segfaults but the others work.

Thanks.
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Separate Thread for Bionic

#515 Post by davids45 »

G'day peebee,

Can I suggest, ASAP, that you start a new thread for your UPup Bionic?
I'm told, unlike Artful, Bionic will have long term support from Ubuntu, so BionicPup is also likely to be a long term investment.

I've downloaded your first Bionic delta and will report when I've had a play.
Posting from the un-deltaed Bionic now, which is pretty good. This was after fixing a few things during installing my many extra applications (pets and/or sfs) - the pinboard opens up before everything I added is ready, so I have to reset the pinboard to get all my app icons (and pwidgets) correctly displayed. Happens to me in Artful and radky's Stretch too, so it's a woof-thing I believe (and my over indulgence in extra applications on the pinboard :oops: ).

Hoping you can fix the drive icons display for the situation where there are many drive partitions (Artful is good, Bionic is bad - another woof issue?).

Thanks again for your efforts which I greatly appreciate :) .

David S.

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#516 Post by musher0 »

peebee wrote:(...)
I was aware of the GLIB warnings and errors (e.g. type leafpad or geany in a
terminal) but all the advice I've been able to find is that they are an aspect of
Ubuntu development and can be ignored.
(...)
Hi peebee.

Congratulations for the new baby!!! :D

About those warnings, some Ubuntu people feel that leaving the "debug" function
on is a kind of Ubuntu trademark, and if the user will run the apps in GUI mode,
the warnings will not be a bother. I have read that in a couple of threads on their
forums. That argument is specious, if I may say so.

I believe all of the recent UPups have the annoyance, including my
xenialPup-7.0.6.

An edit at line 160 of Puppy's /usr/bin/xwin solves it:

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#-----------------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/bin/xinit /root/.xinitrc -- -br -nolisten tcp > /tmp/xerrs.log 2>/dev/null
# BarryK's original ending: 2>&1 #### Edit by musher0, Oct. 23, 2017
# 2>/dev/null will send the error reports to never-never land, and you will have an 
# almost clean xerrs.log. If you notice something fishy going on on your system, 
# do not hesitate to restore BarryK's original ending.
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------
If one runs apps from console a lot, the following can come in handy.

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#!/bin/bash
# filtre-2dn.sh ## et liens symboliques / and symbolic links
# < filtre > et/ and < fltr >
# dans / in
# /opt/local/bin/
# OU / OR
# /root/my-applications/bin. ##
#
####################
# Français (English follows)
# -------------------------------
# Objectif : éliminer les avertissements et messages censément « critiques »
# ----------- de GTK2 lorsque l'utilisateur lance un programme à partir de la
# ----------- console.
#
# Cause : Concerne les Puppys dérivés d'Ubuntu, car les gens d'Ubuntu
# --------- compilent et livrent GTK2 en laissant active sa fonction « debug ».
# --------- Les Puppys dérivés de Debian ne nous agacent pas de la sorte.
#
# Usage : en console, taper < filtre-2dn.sh ExécutablE >, < filtre ExécutablE >
# --------- OU < fltr ExécutablE > (sans les chevrons).
#
# Explication : les avertissements et autres messages générés par GTK2
# --------------- sont envoyés à /dev/null. De plus, l'exécutable est lancé
# --------------- en arrière-plan, ce qui libère la console pour autre chose.
############
# English (Français ci-dessus)
# -------------------------------
# Goal: To get rid of the warnings and "critical" messages from GTK2 when
# ------ the user launches a GTK app from console.
#
# Cause: For Ubuntu-derived Puppies, since the Ubuntu people compile GTK2
# -------- and ship it with the "debug" function left "on". Debian-derived Puppies
# -------- do not annoy the user in such a way.
#
# Usage: In console, type < filtre-2dn.sh ExecutablE >, < filtre ExecutablE >
# --------- OR < fltr ExecutablE > (without the chevrons).
#
# Explanation: The warnings and other messages generated by GTK2 are
# --------------- sent to /dev/null. Also, the executable is backgrounded,
# --------------- which frees the console for something else.
#
####################
# © Christian L'Écuyer, Gatineau (Qc), Canada, 12 nov. 2017. GPL3
# (Alias musher0 [forum Puppy].) # Rév. : 15 nov. 2017.
################# # https://opensource.org/licenses/GPL-3.0
#
#    This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
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#	Ce programme est libre : vous pouvez le redistribuer ou modifier
#	selon les termes de la Licence Publique Générale GNU publiée par la
#	Free Software Foundation (v. 3 ou toute version ultérieure choisie par
#	vous).
#		Ce programme est distribué dans l'espoir qu'il sera utile, mais SANS
#	AUCUNE GARANTIE, ni explicite ni implicite, y compris des garanties de
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# 	de détails, veuillez vous reporter au texte de cette licence à
#	https://opensource.org/licenses/GPL-3.0 pour le texte officiel, à
#	http://www.linux-france.org/article/these/gpl.html pour une traduction et à
#	https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_publique_générale_GNU pour une
#	explication en français.
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################

A="$1" # Transformons ce param. au plus tôt.
exec $A "$2" 2>/dev/null & # Deux param. au maximum. / Two parms, max.

###########
# Possibles, mais ne fonctionnent pas bien : / Possible, but do not work well:
#
# "$@" 2>/dev/null &
# "$2" "$3" "$4" "$5" "$6" "$7" 2>/dev/null &
#
# Interprètent le nom de l'exécutable comme document à charger. /
# Interpret the name of the executable as a document to be loaded.
#
# Contentons-nous de peu ! / ;-) / Let's be happy with what we have!
###########
There are comments in both of the above, please read them.

About the latter "filter" script, people do with it as you see fit. It certainly needs
improvements when using multiple positional parameters.<

If one would wish to use one of the short forms, e.g. < filtre leafpad > or
< fltr leafpad > instead of < filtre-2dn.sh leafpad >, please create appropriate
symbolic links through rox or console. Please do not forget to make script
< filtre-2dn.sh > executable.

IHTH.
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#517 Post by Sage »

re. supra: Sort of works on a very old Rad VE 32M card but crosshatch distortions evident on icons and mouse pointer. OK so far on most Gf/nV cards.

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#518 Post by peebee »

I have a fix for Frisbee that I'm going to make a woof-ce change request for.

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 7e5229bde6
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#519 Post by petihar »

Hello peebee,
I just tried your bionic puppy on my acer Aspire V5, with the french langpack, at first glance everything works perfectly. It's great work, thank you very much. If you accept, it will serve me probably basis for my next Triton. :wink: .
Bien à toi, petihar.

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#520 Post by Sage »

...but not an old TNT card. Have now tested more than a dozen graphics cards and the results are highly variable, often not able to arrive at a prompt when using pfix=nox. Cannot pin down the cause on 32bit machines.

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#521 Post by peebee »

petihar wrote:Hello peebee,
I just tried your bionic puppy on my acer Aspire V5, with the french langpack, at first glance everything works perfectly. It's great work, thank you very much. If you accept, it will serve me probably basis for my next Triton. :wink: .
Bien à toi, petihar.
Please wait until Bionic Beaver is released by Ubuntu on 26th April followed by Upup-BB sometime later.....currently Alpha!!
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#522 Post by Marv »

Running +2 as my daily with no major issues. I still don't have direct rendering on the i915 hardware. The crda error messages in dmesg have stayed gone since I added the wireless-regdb and set the wireless reg domain. Could someone with non intel video and possible a non ath9k wireless card run the following in terminal and see what the results are: "glxgears" and "dmesg | grep crda" ? Thanks. Also hoping Ubuntu sorts the GLib-GObject-CRITICAL issues by release.
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#523 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to a 4gb lexar jd firefly usb-2.0 flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc6548 Kernel: 4.9.86-lxpup-32-pae i686 bits: 32 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: UBB-Pup 18.03
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq Presario 061 product: DQ182A-ABA S6700NX NA410 v: 0nB1411RE101COBRA10 serial: MXM41001K5
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Cobra v: 1.xx serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3.28 date: 08/27/2004
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-MT-) speed: 2800 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver: 8139too
Drives: HDD Total Size: 324.1GB (1.4% used)
Weather: Conditions: 30 F (-1 C) - light snow Time: March 13, 9:25 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 170 Uptime: 13 min Memory: 145.7/2264.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Have only installed gkrellm and inxi but will do more shortly.
So far so good.

Thanks.
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EDIT:
Added smtube + vlc-3.01,streaming video is hard work for this pc but it gets the job done.
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#524 Post by peebee »

+4 delta adds wireless-regdb and includes Frisbee fix

833746963d48f3338ea75d8ecf8c86fe Upup_Bionic_Beaver-18.03+4.iso
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Drive icons poor display - a fix

#525 Post by davids45 »

G'day,

I have been able to find a fix for the inability of Upup Bionic to re-display my drive icons so both a and b drives are aligned across the screen bottom, not overlapping, and without their labels (check an earlier post of mine in this thread for the issue).

The problem seems to be an incomplete(?) version of eventmanager in /usr/sbin.

Copying the bigger version of eventmanager in XenialPup-7.5 to BionicPup alpha, after deleting the smaller problem file in /usr/sbin, I can now re-position my 28-odd drive icons from the default overflowing/overlapping columns and other unsatisfactory arrangements offered by the Bionic-supplied eventmanager to well-spaced and label-free rows.

Another ongoing irritation I've had with recent Pups (not just BionicPup which is only alpha after all) is clutter with irrelevant 'places' for opening files in the 'Open file' window.
To fix this, I deleted all the lines in /etc/fstab. This then does de-clutter the 'Open file' dialog window, however I don't know if this has any effect elsewhere.
So far, so good in quite a few now un-cluttered Pups.

Hoping this ad-hoc-ery may help someone else,

David S.
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#526 Post by artsown »

No problems here so far with BB alpha. It shows so much promise that
I'll be installing it on other computers and testing apps that I rarely or
never use. Looks like a potential winner to me :)

Art

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#527 Post by Marv »

updated to +3T on the intel i5 laptop. Running well (haven't tested frisbee as SNS has been rock solid for me for a while & I don't roam :) ). The wireless-regdb addition working, no crda errors in dmesg. Thanks. Still no direct rendering on the i915 hardware. The only Warnings in dmesg at this point are acpi resource conflicts and they have been present in multiple kernels/pups on this hardware for a while now with no seeming effect on any operation.

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Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
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#528 Post by Smithy »

Really good that modular A drive idea that has the browser in it.
Would be good to see a few alternative A drive slot ins from OscarTalks and others who do browsers. That would make things easier because they are always changing them.

I found that turning off some of the services in the boot manager made a difference in performance and app errors, namely the systemd and machine id.

I also tried Radkey Stretch kernel 4.1.48, pretty good and also cpiez phil66 kernel 3.17.7, even better.
Just wondering if it is ok to swap a lower version kernel in or will there be trouble?
I wanted to try a 2.6.33.7 just to see.

This is relating to Artful, since the Bionic cake won't be baked until after Easter!

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#530 Post by peebee »

artsown wrote:BB Errors updating ppm:

http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg/Screenshot.png

Art
Hi Art

Those are the same errors that are appearing in all apps.....they don't look nice but don't seem to affect to affect functionality.

Were the ppm databases updated correctly?

As they are produced by Xdialog they may be fixable in a similar way to frisbee....but we really want the errors to "go away".....

I've been trying to find which ubuntu package supplies GTlsBackend but have so far drawn a blank....
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