ArtfulPup (& Upup-Bionic-Beaver-RC)

[Marv]

I run a modified artfulpup with pcmanfm and its trashcan integrated into the structure so I booted both a pristine +12 and a +12 updated from my +11 to check the savefile finding and the closing of mounted drives from the desktop icon button. Both are ok for me both on the pristine boot and on the update. I do run the 4.14.14 kernel from LxPupSc as it has the kpti patches in FWIW. My Grub4Dos entry for the Frugal install to a 2nd gen i5 laptop (Fujitsu S761) is below and my savefile name is artfulpupsave-fresh.2fs in this case. It is an unencrypted EXT2, usually 256Mb:

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title ArtfulPup 17.11.10 with 4.14.14 kernel
  uuid 2598-C220
  kernel /ArtfulPup/vmlinuz pmedia=ataflash intel_pstate=disable pdev1=sda1 psubdir=ArtfulPup pfix=copy,fsck ipv6.disable=1
  initrd /ArtfulPup/initrd.gz

The deltas are a bit more work but I like them as they force/allow me to scrub my savefile before updating. It greatly prolongs its life I find and also gives me a fallback in case of troubles with the update.
Edit: Yes the menuentry title lags the actual pup. I try to keep the description current but it happens.

[sszindian]

peebee wrote:
Weird - unmount via green 'mark' on drive on desktop works just fine for me - is this a pristine install or with a savefolder?
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I use a savefolder (in fact on every pup now)

>>>---Indian------>

[B.K. Johnson]

peebee wrote here

ndiswrapper_1.61-k4.9.59-lxpup-pae.pet
should be available from PPM after a database update

peebee, I am caught in a catch-22 situation: I can't download the pet from PPM without a connection for which I need ndiswrapper.

Would you please provide a link to it or post the pet in this thread.
TIA
[UPDATE]
Found a way to get the pet via smokey:http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_Artfulpup/

[peebee]

Would you please provide a link to it

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... up-pae.pet

also in post #2

[B.K. Johnson]

@peebee
I can't get a working connection with ndiswrapper.
lsusb recognizes the Netgear WNA3100

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Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]

Using Network Wizard, I get screeny-1
Using SNS, I get screeny-2
I am using the same XP driver I use successfully with tahrpup-6.0.2, 6.0.5 & 6.0.6
After getting these results in artfulpup, I boot up tahrpup-6.0.6 ... connected for this post.

Any advice/suggestions?
TIA

[hamoudoudou]

Wireless antennas :
Not all operators show good results.. Perhaps driver has to be added for some operators.. Then it depends on the computer model too..
my dongle is n300 as yours
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
Mine is ok 66/100 but some are 12/100
At home i don't use dongle, winter time, only during summer season to compute in my garden.

[peebee]

I can't get a working connection with ndiswrapper. Any advice/suggestions?

All I can say is that the ndiswrapper .pet appears to install correctly....

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# depmod -a
# modprobe ndiswrapper
# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ndiswrapper           170696  0

Why it then does not like your XP driver I'm afraid I have no idea
Are there any clues in dmesg??

[peebee]

Update +13 - updates from upstream Ubuntu

[B.K. Johnson]

I posted an update to inform that I had found an ndiswrapper-4.6.59* at smokey's.
It was that version that I reported on.

As suggested:

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root# dmesg | grep ndiswrapper
#root
 

Nothing returned

Results of other tests are:

- lsmod does not list ndiswrapper
- PupSysInfo does not show ndiswrapper for drivers
- PupSysInfo (USB Devices) shows this for WNA3100

VendorID=0846 ProductID=9020 Rev=00.01
Manufacturer=Broadcom
Product=BCMUSB 802.11 Wireless Adapter
SerialNumber=7960
which agrees with results of lsusb reported earlier

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    modprobe ndiswrapper

    modprobe: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found in directory /lib/modules/4.9.59-lxpup-32-pae

In a good puppy with ndiswrapper, I expect to see ndiswrapper.ko in the directory, /lib/modules/4.9./misc/. Neither the misc sub-directory nor ndiswrapper.ko exists.

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    # modinfo ndiswrapper

    modinfo: ERROR: Module ndiswrapper not found.

pFind's only success when searching for ndiswrapper in system files was /usr/sbin/ndiswrapperGUI.sh


These suggest that ndiswrapper is NOT installed.

So I installed a new artful1711+12 - situation unchanged.

Despite confirmation that ndiswrapper has not been installed in artfulpup, I chose to attempt installing the ndiswrapper pet in post #2. Error - could not be installed (see screeny).

artful1711+13 installed - ndiswrapper is NOT installed.
Attempt to install ndiswrapper pet in post #2 FAILED. (see screeny).

*The reason for the different results when trying to install the ndiswrapper pet is that the first pet from smokey is really, ndiswrapper_1.61-k4.9.56-lxpup-pae.pet and those at post #2 and the post here is ndiswrapper_1.61-k4.9.59-lxpup-pae.pet. Mea culpa!

@hamoudoudou
Please try these terminal commands and report. TIA

modprobe ndiswrapper
modinfo ndiswrapper

[peebee]

Attempt to install ndiswrapper pet in post #2 FAILED. (see screeny).

Ooops - sorry - problem with downloading things from nluug with a web browser which has been seen before. (download with wget is OK)

I've changed the link in post #2 to ibiblio - should now download an uncorrupted .pet which will install correctly.

PPM should have downloaded correctly.....???

[hamoudoudou]

camphone tab
Pictures from smartphone
Transfer to computer from your phone will work if you install pet libcrypto in artfulpup
Try different plug if not workinfg first try.
Ndiswrapper : See Peebee answer above..
About wireless with dongle i transfer my screenshot to Facebook Puppy Linux communauty, showing a lot more interest for that subject.
however i cannot agree on 'Xenialpup was made to dislike usb wifi adapters" Xenialpup is not made to dislike them.. Old puppy makers stay home, chained to wall, and even don't test wireless as they never use that technology.

[peebee]

Update +14 - updates from upstream Ubuntu & fix for run-as-spot under LXDE (does not affect ArtfulPup)

[Smithy]

Hello Peebee,
Could you possibly document the changes here on murga?
Sourceforge has gone dark, absolutely full of javascript. I don't mind a few adverts but sheesh.
Artful is running really fast. And it loads up on an old atom.
Just needs the rox sourceforge fixing up a bit. The icons on right click are missing a few things.
And if you opt to have puppy icons on the desktop, the hard drive icons clash with them. Might I suggest:
#091208 adjust drive icons placement, read by /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
#TODO: GUI in /usr/sbin/eventmanager
#gap between icons and edge of screen (>0 if need to leave space for a tray)...
ICON_PLACE_EDGE_GAP=100
#indent from edge before icons start...
ICON_PLACE_START_GAP=32
#spacing between successive icons (64 matches other icons on desktop)...
ICON_PLACE_SPACING=64 #56
#left, right, bottom, or top of screen...
ICON_PLACE_ORIENTATION='bottom'
Seems like a good puppy. I've built an openbox for it.

[B.K. Johnson]

@peebee
The new pet installed without error. However, output from running Network Wizard and SNS is the same as when I mistakenly used ndiswrapper_1.61-k4.9.56-lxpup-pae.pet (screeny-1 & screeny-2) shown here. Ain't that strange?

Another strange thing: The ndiswrapper_1.61-k4.9.59-lxpup-pae.pet (download from nluug) is 245,760 bytes whereas, the allegedly same pet downloaded from ibiblio is 94,962 bytes.
Explanation offered

Ooops - sorry - problem with downloading things from nluug with a web browser which has been seen before. (download with wget is OK)

What caused this size difference? nluug? If browser, which? Or a mystery middle-man? I could open the pets for a look-see but can't be bothered. When puppies allowed choosing repository from PPM, nluug was always my choice primarily because of speed. Sad to hear that downloads from it via browsers now get corrupted. The purported unreliability is news I never heard before. Post a link to the discussion.

The ndiswrapper_1.61-k4.9.56-lxpup-pae.pet downloaded from smokey is 94,958, just a few bytes different from ibiblio's. It therefore is not surprising that the output in both is the same.

So, now that the ndiswrapper pet does not cause an error on installation (I refuse to say 'installed correctly'). And my wifi adapter uses a Broadcom chipset which lsusb and its alias PupSysInfo recognizes (VendorID=0846 ProductID=9020ID NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]. And the Windows XP driver is one I have successfully used for a long time in different versions of Slacko and tahrpup. I still do. It's fair to say that it is the distribution that is missing something.

You wrote earlier when the ndiswrapper did not work:

Why it then does not like your XP driver I'm afraid I have no idea Sad

If you still have no idea, then it is time for me to close the book on Artfulpup.

One question before I pack it in:

When compiling artful, what do you have in your .config re CONFIG_MODULE_SIG?

[peebee]

When compiling artful, what do you have in your .config re CONFIG_MODULE_SIG?

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CONFIG_MODULE_SIG=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_FORCE is not set
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL=y
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA1=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA224 is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA256 is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA384 is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA512 is not set
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_HASH="sha1"

[B.K. Johnson]

@peebee
Responding to my query about CONFIG_MODULE_SIG in your .config, you wrote:

CONFIG_MODULE_SIG=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_FORCE is not set
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL=y
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA1=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA224 is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA256 is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA384 is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_SHA512 is not set
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_HASH="sha1"

Why did I ask?
Back in May 2016 you were helping me with ndiswrapper and xenial. I asked you to look at a quote that provided a possible reason for failure. You didn't answer. Perhaps it is appropriate in this instance too.

About half-way in my post, the source states that if kernel module signature verification is enabled and a module isn't properly signed, then the kernel will refuse to load it. In which case, the developer should disable CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG in .config before compiling.

My guess with your .config showing "CONFIG_MODULE_SIG=y" and "CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL=y" is that it is enabled. I know from our conversations in the thread back then that you did some patching, which would most likely make it "improperly signed" and therefore doomed to fail.

What do you think? And even if you think it's a crock, please humour me and include these changes in your next compile. I'll gladly test and if it fails, I won't bother you anymore. Deal?

[peebee]

What do you think?

Hi @BKJ

The module (ndiswrapper.ko) is loading for me - if it failed to load then there would be errors from
modprobe ndiswrapper
and these would appear in dmesg.....neither is happening and further lsmod shows the module is loaded.....

All I can imagine is that this is a newer version of ndiswrapper than you have used previously (??) and somehow your XP driver is no longer compatible (??) but I've no way of testing this.

The sources for older versions are available from:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswr ... es/stable/
https://github.com/pgiri/ndiswrapper/releases
and could be compiled.....

Cheers
peebee

[peebee]

Hello Peebee,
Could you possibly document the changes here on murga?
Sourceforge has gone dark, absolutely full of javascript. I don't mind a few adverts but sheesh.
Artful is running really fast. And it loads up on an old atom.
Just needs the rox sourceforge fixing up a bit. The icons on right click are missing a few things.
And if you opt to have puppy icons on the desktop, the hard drive icons clash with them. Might I suggest:
#091208 adjust drive icons placement, read by /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
#TODO: GUI in /usr/sbin/eventmanager
#gap between icons and edge of screen (>0 if need to leave space for a tray)...
ICON_PLACE_EDGE_GAP=100
#indent from edge before icons start...
ICON_PLACE_START_GAP=32
#spacing between successive icons (64 matches other icons on desktop)...
ICON_PLACE_SPACING=64 #56
#left, right, bottom, or top of screen...
ICON_PLACE_ORIENTATION='bottom'
Seems like a good puppy. I've built an openbox for it.

Hi @Smithy
Sorry you don't like SF - it has lots of advantages for me so I'm going to continue using it....

Have you tried using Menu -> Desktop -> Puppy theme manager
to alter the position of the drive icons? You can for instance just change the position in the current ArtfulPup theme or you can change to a different theme like Puppy Standard.

Thanks
peebee

[Smithy]

I do like Sourceforge, it was just a grumble about the proliferation of javascript applets...
Yes I altered the event manager no problem in the neat desktop pulldown.
What surprised me was that the 4.9 kernel in it was so fast, and runs well, whereas other puppies with 4.9xx or so kernels ran sluggishly.
Heat sensor is stuck on 27 on an intel board, but the mouse hover shows the cpus
working.
Hard info missing on menu but terminal+hardinfo shows no sensors in the hard info dialogue. Some puppies show sensors in hard info. Stretch I think.
Will test a bit more.
You ok if I post a pet or two for it or even a derivative? Don't want to put your nose out of joint so to speak if you are actively developing it.

[peebee]

You ok if I post a pet or two for it or even a derivative? Don't want to put your nose out of joint so to speak if you are actively developing it.

No probs.....go for it!