Hello all.
On a more serious note:
like saintless mentioned on the mavrothal thread I referenced above (NOT
quoting verbatim, but I think this is the meaning of his intervention):
"What's the point of producing a carbon copy Puppy from a different repo,
if you won't maintain it?"
Pelo -- whether we generally like his comments or not, he sometimes
comes up with interesting insights -- has also been yapping at my calves
and at other people's about this for a while: maintenance and service of
our Puppies; "traveler" focus, to use Pelo's choice of words.
Certainly security is a concern; and just look at our founder go with his
"Easy Linux"!!!
BarryK is onto something good there, I'm sure.
But as jd7654 mentioned above, it may not be Puppy's role to get deep
into SELinux, etc.
Even as Puppy is, if a Puppyist does regular back-ups and uses minimal
vigilance and good computing practices, "Kiddo" better get up very early
in the morning to try to attack and compromise any Puppy's security.
I can testify, like Mike Walsh and some other forum members, that
with
proper back-ups and a minimum of Internet vigilance, if something
happens to your Puppy due to hardware failure or to Internet malware, you
can get your Puppy back on line, pretty much in the state it was before the
incident, in less than half an hour. That's not bad at all, considering that
Puppy is not expressly designed with security in mind.
Coming back to Saintless' statement, does Puppy really need to prove that
it can also get geany, ROX-Filer or mplayer from a Fedora repo? We have
already proven many times over that we can fetch them successfully from
Slackware, Ubuntu, and Debian repos, not to mention T2 repos.
I know, I'm taking a step back from my initial post. While one would feel
justified pride in being able to add a Fedora-Pup or a CentOS-Pup to our
woof-CE collection of builds, it would still be Puppy, with jwm as WM, geany
as text editor, leafpad as text reader, etc., etc.
Even building a Puppy entirely from source, a la Linux From Scratch, for
example, would that bring something more interesting to the user?
Has any one heard of "halibut"?
This is not really off subject. I do like
fish occasionally for dinner, but I'm talking about this Linux fish:
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/halibut
What I'm getting at is I think we need to "renew the offer". Those are my
thoughts at present. I think we need to have a good discussion about
"renewing the offer."
How about we offer fish and chips once and a while instead of the usual
Puppy food?!
(The thought just occurred to me that the expression "renew the offer" may
be a "Frenchism"? If so, I apologize, and hope you still get my meaning!)
I would like in conclusion to underline wiak's excellent work on his
automaton script.
I think his work nicely closes the cycle. At the beginning, the woof-CE
process was extremely difficult to go through -- now, thanks to wiak and his
script, it is easy for even a newbie to build the Puppy of his/her choice.
TWYL.