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Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Sep 2017, 17:58    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
@Fred: Systemd is a dependency of synaptic. I wonder if omitting synaptic from the build has other side effects.


One side effect is of course that you cannot boot with systemd.
Btw, for info, with systemd installed, it doesn't boot using systemd automatically, it can be forced though by adding to the kernel boot command line:
Code:
init=/bin/systemd


Installing the package "systemd-sysv" will boot with systemd automatically, without it, it will boot by default with the traditional initscripts.

Fred
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Doglover

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Sep 2017, 20:24    Post subject:  

Full DebianDog build using frugal.

I'm looking for the screensaver settings and set time settings.

I would like to disable the screensaver and set the correct time. All I see is timezone.

Very nice job, I like it very much. My main distro has been siduction, and it is very similar.
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Sep 2017, 06:51    Post subject:  

Doglover wrote:
I'm looking for the screensaver settings and set time settings.


I assume you mean the screen blanking after 10 minutes. (there are no screensaver settings, btw)
I can be disabled by:
Code:
xset s off && xset -dpms

To have it disabled automatically at login you can add that to ~/.xsession somewhere before the last line

Setting the time I only know how to do from command line, for example:
Code:
date -s 12:50:05


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Doglover

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Sep 2017, 14:18    Post subject:  

Screen blanking is now disabled. The correct time showed this morning, no code needed. Hmmm.

Thanks Fred.
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Sep 2017, 19:36    Post subject:  

dancytron wrote:
fredx181 wrote:
Hi Dan,

I tested your minimal google-chrome setup without synaptic and for me it's the same, no network connection.
/snip/
And thanks again for finding, you seem to have talent to detect hidden bugs !

New mklive-stretch:
mklive-stretch script

Thanks, I'll give it a try later today. I thought I tried the ens2 name, but maybe I didn't do it right. Thanks to you and rcrsn51 for troubleshooting this.


Just ran another one. All fixed.

fredx181 wrote:

Another thing, about chrome to run as user puppy, this works for me also

Code:
#!/bin/sh

xhost +local:puppy

su puppy -c "/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --user-data-dir=/home/puppy/chrome/user --disk-cache-dir=/home/puppy/chrome/cache --disk-cache-size=10000000 --media-cache-size=10000000"


That way there's no need to have gksu installed (however it doesn't make much difference in space used, chrome package is huge anyway !)

Fred

This works as well.

edit: deleted something that I haven't really figured out yet.

Thanks,

Dan
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Sep 2017, 04:11    Post subject: wifi  

i created openbox.
perfectly all functions.
only wifi can not work.
tested all kinds of wifi managers:
frisbee, sns, wicd, ceni, wifi-connect...

regards.
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Sep 2017, 06:11    Post subject: Re: wifi  

zagreb999 wrote:
i created openbox.
perfectly all functions.
only wifi can not work.
tested all kinds of wifi managers:
frisbee, sns, wicd, ceni, wifi-connect...

regards.


You see ? As I said earlier, it's not depending only on the wifi-manager.
You probably need to install the correct firmware package to make wifi work.
I always need to install package firmware-iwlwifi, then it works with frisbee, peasywifi, etc...

Fred
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Sep 2017, 09:38    Post subject:  

@zagreb999: The list of firmware is here.

But you still have not identified the WiFi device.
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AndresC2

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Sep 2017, 19:39    Post subject:  

Hi Fred!

Quote:
is it possible to create
squashfs with xorg and desktop,
without kernel?


But dont break the system?

when install linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae you have initrd and vmlinuz.

so you only need initrd and vmlinuz? , then can you safe remove linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae?

and keep "initrd and vmlinuz", later install base system with debootstrap,desktop etc and purge linux-image?.

tinycore version "core" have initrd and vmlinuz only so is possible?

thanks
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 01:44    Post subject: VLC-GTK  

THANKS, FRED!

ALL KINDS OF ACTIONS
WORK PERFECTLY.
INSTALLED FRISBEE-WIFI 100%!!!
GREAT JOB.
-----------------------------------

ONLY VLC CAN NOT OPEN
HDD DRIVES. THERE IS NOT
GTK...

ANY IDEA?

REGARDS.
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catsezmoo

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 02:29    Post subject:  

Quote:
Systemd is a dependency of synaptic
it's not indicated as a dependency here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/synaptic

Maybe you have "Treat recommended packages as depends" selected in preferences, and you wind up with extra, indirect, dependencies?
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saintless


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 03:09    Post subject:  

catsezmoo wrote:
Quote:
Systemd is a dependency of synaptic
it's not indicated as a dependency here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/synaptic

It is a dependency because synaptic depends on policykit-1 which depends on libpam-systemd which depends on systemd.

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Farewell, Nooby, you will be missed...
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Payoon

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 06:29    Post subject: Works great!  

Thank You Fred
in a few minutes a fully working distro was created, using debiandog jessie 64 with additonal debootstrap packge installed as the starting base.
That script is a real masterpiece.

Payoon
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 17:45    Post subject:  

AndresC2 wrote:
Hi Fred!

Quote:
is it possible to create
squashfs with xorg and desktop,
without kernel?


But dont break the system?

when install linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae you have initrd and vmlinuz.

so you only need initrd and vmlinuz? , then can you safe remove linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae?

and keep "initrd and vmlinuz", later install base system with debootstrap,desktop etc and purge linux-image?.

tinycore version "core" have initrd and vmlinuz only so is possible?

thanks


No, not possible booting with initrd and vmlinuz only (without kernel in filesystem /lib/modules)

I answered the question about building without kernel (in fact uninstalling at later point) because I thought the reason why asked was to be able to use another kernel instead, like peebee suggested here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=964725#964725

Fred
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 22:57    Post subject:  

What is the smallest/simplest samba client that you guys would recommend for DD Stretch?

edit: Just installed YASSM. Seems to do the job.
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