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[wiak]

Sorry Fred,

I've downloaded Puppy Slacko but probably won't have time to try debootstrap out with it until tomorrow (hope I can find chroot program for Slacko - otherwise I'll try XenialPup or similar). I am pretty confident it should work anyway and it seems I could even run the DebianDog at same time as the Pup!!! since that's what chroot with all these mount commands of /proc and so on should allow. I have actually since come across "James B" detailing how to run Slacko at same time as FatDog via chroot mechanisms here (not that this has anything to do with debootstrap idea...):

http://www.lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/RunSlackoInFatdog

It is all very exciting stuff anyway. I can't help wondering what the future of Puppy itself is though since debootstrap can create such a small Debian, but I guess there is room for all and maybe a Puppy with a chroot Debian (or thus created debiandog) running alongside is also a useful possibility (or as with the FatDog example, but instead running Puppy inside a DebianDog via a chroot).

Main thing for me for now though is trying to get a mklive debiandog working via your script but using Puppy system as the host build system.

wiak

[rcrsn51]

@Fred: Here is my test:

I booted Stretchdog32 off an ISObooter flash drive. I plugged in another flash drive with a big ext4 partition and ran the mklive script from there. It chugged away and eventually made the ISO. I copied it back to the ISObooter drive and rebooted. It worked!

But you quickly realize how many extra little things you need to make a practical OS.

BTW, in the middle of the process, a "Done" message appears with a pause. An impatient person would close the terminal window, assuming that they were done.

[fredx181]

Hello rcrsn51

Thanks for testing and good to know it works with isobooter!
Indeed it's very minimal, so lots of work to be done to make it a more complete OS.
I'll have a look at the 'Done' message

Fred

[mikeslr]

Hi Fred and All,

Still trying to get my head around this. As I understand it, the ISO is created in a chroot environment run from another OS. But which actually has to have access to the internet?

My two main computers are a desktop which can only access the internet via wifi, and a laptop, which being portable, can be ported sufficiently close to my router that I can use an ethernet cable.

I'd rather do my exploring of, to me, uncharted territory from my desktop. Is that possible?

Thanks,

mikesLr

[dancytron]

Built another one. I attempted to add all the DD specific programs and test a few.

This is the application list I used.

[fredx181]

[mikeslr]

Thanks Fred,

I think.

My equivocation is because, for me, exploring the possibilities of Puppies and Dogs seems to be addictive. There are other projects I keep putting off. I've said it before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

mikesLr

[rcrsn51]

[dancytron]

[wiak]

[wiak]

Success...

Have chroot debian-stretch running from Slacko64 after using debootstrap to make it.

I previously fetched the Jessie stable debootstrap deb package and extracted that and put the main debootstrap script in /usr/sbin and the folder debootstrap into /usr/share (that /usr/share/debootstrap folder contains amongst other things a set of 'functions' used by debootstrap script and also a set of 'scripts' per distribution - i.e. one of these being called 'stretch').

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111222

wiak

[AndresC2]

Hello fred!

Very Cool Script!

by the way with aufs-back this will work?

umount /lib/live/mount/overlay
mount -t tmpfs -o "remount,size=90%" tmpfs /lib/live/mount/overlay

mi dell have 512mb of ram
but I have only 256mb in ram in stretch in live mode, is possible more ram with some command?

I did my stretch-minimal in /root is very fast build in ram but you have add minimal apps like links2 midnightcommander ifupdown etc... only 85mb my filesystem.squashfs.

xserver-xorg-video-vesa run ugly is possible install puppy/tinycore Xvesa in stretch?

Thanks Fred!

[wiak]

I've attached a dotpet of debootstrap from DebianJessie to my above post (as linked below). It's the version of DebianJessieStable-provided debootstrap I used in creating a debian stretch system on my Slacko64 6.3.2 system, but debootstrap is just a script (from Debian) so should work on most Puppies.

Note this is not Fred's mklive-stretch script, which adds a lot on top of debootstrap-created debian system in order to make it into a DebianDog. However, the provided debootstrap pet from Debian Jessie is all you need if you simply want to play with Debian installation yourself on your Puppy system as per my instructions here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111222

Of course, Fred's mklive-stretch script could be modified per my previous suggestions such that it could also run from most any official (or unofficial) Pup per this example of me using debootstrap from Debian on a Pup system.

wiak

[fredx181]

@wiak

Great that you accomplished to make it work in puppy !

[wiak]