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Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog
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backi

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 14:41    Post subject:  

Hi Fred !

Quote:
Don't know if you tried the "safe mode" option (=no-overwriting of existing files in the base filesystem), that could help maybe.


Quite complicated .......some xxxx.squashfs Modules crashes X and/or will not unload ( in different Modes ) ,,,,,,,some do not cause any trouble (talking about Xenial Dog ) .
Became accustomed to it .
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 16:02    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
Hi Fred !

Quote:
Don't know if you tried the "safe mode" option (=no-overwriting of existing files in the base filesystem), that could help maybe.


Quite complicated .......some xxxx.squashfs Modules crashes X and/or will not unload ( in different Modes ) ,,,,,,,some do not cause any trouble (talking about Xenial Dog ) .
Became accustomed to it .


Thanks backi, indeed annoying, I have no clue yet how to solve it, something to study on ... Question Idea

@all, made small fix for yad_squashloader, see EDIT2 here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982262#982262

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Lassar

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 21:29    Post subject:  

Thank you for debian stretch script !

Got debian stretch script to make a iso. Size 143 mb.

Very nice size, but got one little problem.

Changed the script to make a symbolic link in /lib & /usr/lib.

These two links get overwritten & are changed into directories.

Have been searching google, and don't know how to prevent this from happening.

Anyone have any ideas?
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 22:40    Post subject:  

Lassar wrote:
Thank you for debian stretch script !

Got debian stretch script to make a iso. Size 143 mb.

Very nice size, but got one little problem.

Changed the script to make a symbolic link in /lib & /usr/lib.

These two links get overwritten & are changed into directories.

Have been searching google, and don't know how to prevent this from happening.

Anyone have any ideas?


What are you trying to accomplish?

In any event, I'd create the ISO, install it, make the changes you want, and then remaster it. That has worked for me with links to put browsers, block lists, download directories etc outside of the 01-filesystem and save folder.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 09:59    Post subject:  

Hi Fred:

I've been looking at running chromium as an unprivileged user. I have this working using xhost, but there's no audio.

It looks like my user cannot see ALSA. Running the "aplay -l" command gives "no devices found".

Is this a permissions deal? Any suggestions?

[Edit] Fixed it. Ran System Tools > Add/Remove Users from Groups

Bill
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 11:24    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Hi Fred:

I've been looking at running chromium as an unprivileged user. I have this working using xhost, but there's no audio.

It looks like my user cannot see ALSA. Running the "aplay -l" command gives "no devices found".

Is this a permissions deal? Any suggestions?

Bill


Hi Bill, Is the user member of the "audio" group ? (look in /etc.group)
If not:
Code:
usermod -a -G audio <user>

(then I think you need to logout and back in for the change to apply, Exit X and type logout (not startx))

EDIT: Ah, you fixed already, just seeing your edit.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 11:36    Post subject:  

Thanks. I found it just before you posted.

This is new territory for a Puppy user. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 21:05    Post subject:  

PeasyMP3 is updated here.

CamPhoneTab is updated here.
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Lassar

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 11:22    Post subject: Install ubuntu repos on debian?  

Has any tried to add a ppa to debian stretch.

You ask why you would do that?

I'll tell you why.

I manage to install kodi, but apt-get install --no-install-recommends added a lot of un-need packages.

Kodi has it's own built in python interpeter, and apt-get installed python 2.7, python 3, python 3.6.

Debian's repositories debs are lying about what dependency packages they
actually need.

Installing kodi took 260 mb of dish space.

I personally know about how much disk space kodi takes up and it is not even close to that.

So has anyone have any luck using a ppa with apt-get?
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 12:51    Post subject:  

Lassar wrote:
Has any tried to add a ppa to debian stretch.


Which ppa you had in mind ?

Quote:
Kodi has it's own built in python interpeter, and apt-get installed python 2.7, python 3, python 3.6.


I see only python2.7:
Code:
root@live:~# apt-get install kodi
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  fonts-noto-hinted fonts-noto-mono fonts-roboto-hinted kodi-bin kodi-data
  libass5 libasyncns0 libatomic1 libavcodec57 libavfilter6 libavformat57
  libavresample3 libavutil55 libbluetooth3 libbluray1 libbs2b0 libchromaprint1
  libcrossguid0 libcrystalhd3 libebur128-1 libfftw3-double3 libflite1
  libglew2.0 libglu1-mesa libgme0 libgsm1 libicu57 libjs-iscroll libjs-jquery
  libldb1 libmariadbclient18 libmicrohttpd12 libmpg123-0 libnuma1
  libopencv-core2.4v5 libopencv-imgproc2.4v5 libopenmpt0 libopus0
  libpcrecpp0v5 libpgm-5.2-0 libpostproc54 libpulse0 libpython2.7
  libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib librubberband2 libshine3
  libsmbclient libsnappy1v5 libsodium18 libsoxr0 libspeex1 libssh-gcrypt-4
  libswresample2 libswscale4 libtag1v5 libtag1v5-vanilla libtalloc2 libtbb2
  libtdb1 libtevent0 libtinyxml2.6.2v5 libtwolame0 libva-drm1 libva-x11-1
  libva1 libvdpau1 libvorbisfile3 libwavpack1 libwbclient0 libwebp6
  libwebpdemux2 libwebpmux2 libwrap0 libx264-148 libx265-95 libxslt1.1
  libyajl2 libzmq5 libzvbi-common libzvbi0 mesa-utils mysql-common
  python-imaging python-pil python-talloc python2.7 python2.7-minimal
  samba-libs
Suggested packages:
  libbluray-bdj firmware-crystalhd libfftw3-bin libfftw3-dev alsa-base
  glew-utils opus-tools pulseaudio speex python-pil-doc python-pil-dbg
  python2.7-doc binutils binfmt-support
Recommended packages:
  kodi-visualization-spectrum libcec4 libmodplug1 libnfs8 libplist3 udisks2
  libaacs0 javascript-common va-driver-all | va-driver vdpau-driver-all
  | vdpau-driver tcpd
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  fonts-noto-hinted fonts-noto-mono fonts-roboto-hinted kodi kodi-bin
  kodi-data libass5 libasyncns0 libatomic1 libavcodec57 libavfilter6
  libavformat57 libavresample3 libavutil55 libbluetooth3 libbluray1 libbs2b0
  libchromaprint1 libcrossguid0 libcrystalhd3 libebur128-1 libfftw3-double3
  libflite1 libglew2.0 libglu1-mesa libgme0 libgsm1 libicu57 libjs-iscroll
  libjs-jquery libldb1 libmariadbclient18 libmicrohttpd12 libmpg123-0 libnuma1
  libopencv-core2.4v5 libopencv-imgproc2.4v5 libopenmpt0 libopus0
  libpcrecpp0v5 libpgm-5.2-0 libpostproc54 libpulse0 libpython2.7
  librubberband2 libshine3 libsmbclient libsnappy1v5 libsodium18 libsoxr0
  libspeex1 libssh-gcrypt-4 libswresample2 libswscale4 libtag1v5
  libtag1v5-vanilla libtalloc2 libtbb2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libtinyxml2.6.2v5
  libtwolame0 libva-drm1 libva-x11-1 libva1 libvdpau1 libvorbisfile3
  libwavpack1 libwbclient0 libwebp6 libwebpdemux2 libwebpmux2 libwrap0
  libx264-148 libx265-95 libxslt1.1 libyajl2 libzmq5 libzvbi-common libzvbi0
  mesa-utils mysql-common python-imaging python-pil python-talloc samba-libs
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib python2.7 python2.7-minimal
4 upgraded, 86 newly installed, 0 to remove and 35 not upgraded.
Need to get 81.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 219 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]


I agree it's big size install though.

About what you asked in PM: I don't think there is similar script as mklive-stretch for xenial
(but you can google search for a manual way of debootstrap xenial to make a live system out of it)
I doubt btw that Ubuntu debootstrap will be less bloated.

And in the future can you reply back if someone replies to a question you ask ?
(dancytron replied to your earlier post)

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 10:06    Post subject: Re: Install ubuntu repos on debian?  

Lassar wrote:
Kodi has it's own built in python interpeter, and apt-get installed python 2.7, python 3, python 3.6.

Debian's repositories debs are lying about what dependency packages they actually need.


I did a test install of kodi, then deleted some python components. Kodi immediately complained that they were missing.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 10:34    Post subject:  

Here is a little applet for checking the levels of your ink-jet printer. Read here and here for info, including the list of supported printers.

Now that many printers have their own LCD control panel, this tool is not quite as useful as it once was.

Remove the fake .gz extension. Inkgui is listed in the System menu.
inkgui_0.5.2-1.deb.gz
Description 
gz

 Download 
Filename  inkgui_0.5.2-1.deb.gz 
Filesize  2.21 KB 
Downloaded  32 Time(s) 
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Lassar

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 14:13    Post subject:  

Got kodi to work partly in tiny core.

It does create a crash log.

Kodi does not complain about python being missing.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 14:54    Post subject:  

Lassar wrote:
Got kodi to work partly in tiny core.
...
Kodi does not complain about python being missing.


I guess it depends on how kodi is compiled, i.e. can be compiled with or without python included.
Debian kodi package is probably built without python included, so then it depends on python to be installed.

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 15:52    Post subject:  

Hi Fred (or anyone):

Can you explain the priority order in the layered filesystem? Here's what happened to me:

I was messing around with my-squash-loader and using symlinks into my squash repo.

At some point, one module quit working. The loadmodule command reported that it had loaded and it should have appeared in /opt, but it wasn't there.

I eventually tracked down a whiteout file in /mnt/saved/opt.

Does that mean that the content of "Changes" has top priority?

I still can't figure out how I would have deleted a folder that was inside a module.

Bill
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