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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jul 2017, 07:47    Post subject: min browser
Subject description: my 2 cents
 

Just my 2 cents on Min:

I used it during my final year uni project .. Even from a web dev point of view it behaves almost exactly the same as Chrome - it includes the same Dev Tools and seems to be pretty much the same rendering engine (meaning same browser features - HTML5, CSS3, File API, JS ES5, Canvas, etc) ..

Performance is very good.

The UI is not great, but can be gotten used to.

Overall, it is a good, smaller alternative to Chrome (if you can put up with the strange UI).

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jul 2017, 08:03    Post subject:  

Hi, sc0ttman.

P'raps you can fill in some of the 'gaps' for the rest of us!

Did you ever figure out how you 'bookmark' anything? And, er, is there any way at all to step backwards & forwards through pages? Everything seems to work through the 'List' page (kinda like a 'History' page?)

Basic stuff like that, y'know? Laughing


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Keef


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jul 2017, 08:50    Post subject:  

The CTRL key is the modifier, so ctrl + left or right arrow will take you through pages.
ctrl + TAB amazingly enough takes you to the next tab.
ctrl + d saves a bookmark, but I still don't know how to find it afterwards.
Hitting ALT brings up the menu toolbar, so click on help to get to the shortcuts page (or look at Edit > Preferences).
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jul 2017, 18:14    Post subject:  

Hi, Keef.

Thanks for the info, old son. I'll have another look at Min, now!

I'm going to put together a 32-bit SFS for this. I think it's worth persevering with.

Cheers.


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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:13    Post subject:  

Hi again, all.

32-bit SFS package now available. Link as below:-

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3g7zmsxb8drhbvc/Min-1.6.0-i386.sfs

@Keef:-

It appears that whatever you bookmark, appears in the 'Task List' that shows up when you hit the 'hamburger' Menu symbol, at the the far right end of the Tabs bar. I've bookmarked a few of my regular sites, and it seems this is where they go to. So, I'm guessing the list could grow to quite sizeable proportions after a while.....

Still haven't discovered a way to import bookmarks. It's early days yet, though; this may well get added to a later release. We shall see.

Posting this from Min in Slacko 560. Give it a try.

Edit:- Curiouser & curiouser. Seems that what shows in the 'Task List' is whatever tabs you happen to have open at the point when you click on the hamburger. Click on 'New Task' at the bottom, and you can create another list of whatever tabs are open when you click on it. A wee bit awkward initially, but it's got definite possiblities! You can go to whichever 'Task' set of tabs you want simply by clicking on any URL within that Task.

So; it would appear that you can set up your 'bookmarks' in groups of similar sites. Nifty. And, er; I don't think you need to use 'Ctrl + d', either. Whatever is open when you click on 'New Task' simply gets added to as you open further sites. Boy, this is gonna take some getting used to.....

And Min does remember these Task 'groups' of tabs between one session and the next. Not yet sure as I'd trust it for banking, mind you ..!!

Very definitely worth persevering with, though.


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greengeek


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Sep 2017, 15:19    Post subject:  

Hi Mike, thanks for the sfs. Trialling it now on a Slacko 5.6 derivative. So far I have a problem where it won't let me browse youtube as it says "can't connect securely to this site" but I suspect this could be related to the oddball state of openssl in my pup. (just thought I'd mention it in case anyone else is having the same problem).

One of the features I most need in a browser is the ability to "print to file" to create pdfs from webpages and Min seems really good at this in my testing so far.

Looks like being a very useful browser.
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deltacat

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2017, 12:31    Post subject:  

I'm using Min to post this and am having the same problem as you Greengeek with YouTube, but only on some Puplets.

Min works flawlessly on Slackopuppy 6.3.2 which is installed to the harddrive on one of my netbooks. Everything works and the performance is really snappy and it loads YouTube pages and plays the video without any problem whatsoever. It's performance is also good with Unicornpup V6 and Shiba Inu 1.1.3 which I both boot from a flashdrive, apart from it's unwillingness to load YouTube.

I'm very much a novice with Puppy, so if anyone could shed any light on this, it would be appreciated.
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quirkian2new

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Sep 2017, 10:24    Post subject:  

seems new 1.6.2 recently released. Anyone is tracking this interesting browser ?

Any improvement over the awkard ui in 1.6.0 ?
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 04:51    Post subject:  

1.7 seems very similar so I assume rendering fixes.
Not sure if there is another thread on this as google found this one.

Its an oddball...the development site just says its a javascript based browser which is the mozilla approach but does not do other mozilla like things.
Perhaps it is indeed a one off which makes it interesting as an alternative to the mozilla/google two party state.
It has a certain charm and its pdf and media handling it neat.
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Does not work in an older pup. I tried it in the most up to date version of Lucid 5287. Did not open. Tried from a terminal and complained about a couple of things. Tried looking for missing dependencies. There were none! Back to the terminal and tried to use the output to look for what was missing in ppm.

well I have it running on Lucid.... yes I made an sfs of library updates but did not need to include glibc (I have updated on other pups in the past...its how you do it that matters to avoid a freeze) ..gtk/glib/libstdc++/xcb ...but that sort of maxes out updates and those libs helped me run other newer software. Can't say I want a pulseaudio/gtk3 thing so I dont. Up to now browser updates have been limited to XP/windows , palemoon came close so Min is a nice option.

If there is any interest I will upload my stuff.

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 18:32    Post subject:  

Hiya, Mike.

mikeb wrote:
If there is any interest I will upload my stuff.


Mm..! Yes, please. I didn't think it was possible to get that running in Lucid with that ancient glibc. I have actually used Battleshooter's 'glibc-220' upgrade he put together for Carolina/Racy in Lucid (amongst many others), in the hopes of being able to run a newer version of Chrome. Didn't work for that, but, like you say, it certainly allows me to run a fair bit of other, newer stuff.

I looked at Min last year; it's certainly different, all right. 'Quirky' is, I think, the word for it.....


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Terry H

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 18:45    Post subject:  

Just stumbled on this thread, hadn't seen it before. Si I just downloaded and installed on stretch pup rc3. Interresting browser, super quick and seems to render pages well. There doesn't appear to be any navigation though, so can't return to previous page, so can't get back to unread posts on forum. This will probalby stop it from being used more widely. I'll keep using it for now.
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ally


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2018, 04:05    Post subject:  

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2018, 06:49    Post subject:  

Morning, all.

2 new SFS packages of the latest release (1.7.1) for you.

Download 32- or 64-bit from here:-

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/rkk35ofaham6x/Min_browser


....aaaand enjoy. Smile


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2018, 07:02    Post subject:  

Gawd, I'd forgotten just how 'minimalist' this thing is..!

At least I've figured out how to zoom in/out (Ctrl + '+' or '-'.....logical, I guess), although it appears you have to apply this on a page by page basis.....even within the same tab (*huh?!?*)

Certainly is fast, though. If only I could suss the bookmarks system out, I'd be happy with it.... Rolling Eyes

One thing I'm pretty certain about, though.....and that is that you'll need to build up your bookmarks from scratch, 'cos there is absolutely no mechanism for importing an HTML file (even though it's Chromium-based. Rather like Dillo, in that respect; everything has to entered anew, every time you want it.

(*Heigh-ho...*)


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jrb


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2018, 09:04    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
Gawd, I'd forgotten just how 'minimalist' this thing is..!

At least I've figured out how to zoom in/out (Ctrl + '+' or '-'.....logical, I guess), although it appears you have to apply this on a page by page basis.....even within the same tab (*huh?!?*)

Certainly is fast, though. If only I could suss the bookmarks system out, I'd be happy with it.... Rolling Eyes

One thing I'm pretty certain about, though.....and that is that you'll need to build up your bookmarks from scratch, 'cos there is absolutely no mechanism for importing an HTML file (even though it's Chromium-based. Rather like Dillo, in that respect; everything has to entered anew, every time you want it.

(*Heigh-ho...*)


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Hi Mike, I just downloaded and fired up your 32bit SFS in UpupBionic. Worked OTB, using it now.Very Happy Just fumbling about at present.

Managed to set a home page by modifying the exec line in /usr/share/applications/min.desktop to:
Code:
Exec=/usr/bin/min file:///mnt/home/0_common/home_page.html
This is my own homemade homepage so anyone else will have to substitute their own. Basically its a list of my favourite links that I put together with Seamonkey Composer.

I notice that clicking the "View Tasks" button in the upper right corner shows a clickable list of all pages visited so far, so I suppose that acts as sort of a Bookmarks menu.

Might be worth starting a new "Tips and Tricks" thread.

Thanks for this, J
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