Quirky Pyro64 version 0.6 (alpha) -- and Pyro32 0.5

[BarryK]

There must be something wrong with the .iso?
Triple check:
it runs on an ancient ECS/AMD 754/onboard SiS chipset/video - amazing. Should've stuck with the old bangers rather than pander to the Wintel cr*p. Except that it won't see my wired NIC by default (neither SNS nor Fris) - had this issue before! Unable to get DCHP to switch on.
Seems there's a number of rogue HW combos out here.

I booted the iso on my Acer Aspire 5742G, with Intel graphics, Intel i3 CPU, 4GB RAM, running it now, typing this post from it.

Booted, no issues, video resolution correct. Sound, wifi, working.

I bought that laptop in July 2011, so, not so new.

EDIT
saved the session, rebooted, wifi works. Typing from it right now.

[upnorth]

Barry, the link in OP is broken:

http://bkhome.org/news/201711/quirky-py ... leased.htm,
the l at the end is black.

Updated a 32 gb stick with full install using the 05-06 pet, took awhile but worked fine.

Using a frugall install to directory now on desktop with grub2, only problem was audio settings would not stick for a few boots, but is ok now.
Thanks.

[BarryK]

Barry, the link in OP is broken:

http://bkhome.org/news/201711/quirky-py ... leased.htm,
the l at the end is black.

Updated a 32 gb stick with full install using the 05-06 pet, took awhile but worked fine.

Using a frugall install to directory now on desktop with grub2, only problem was audio settings would not stick for a few boots, but is ok now.
Thanks.

Thanks, I will fix that link.

I never tested that Service Pack, good to know that it does work!

[BarryK]

What's next?

I need to do a 32-bit rebuild in OE and build Pyro32 0.6.

Right now though, doing an experimental musl build in OE. technosaurus expressed an interest in that.

Just running "bitbake core-image-sato-dev', which builds a pre-defined set of packages. Probably if/when I build with my set of packages, many won't compile. It will be interesting to see how far it gets though.

[Sage]

iso on my Acer Aspire 5742G, with Intel graphics, Intel i3 CPU, 4GB RAM,
Booted, no issues, video resolution correct. Sound, wifi, working.
... laptop in July 2011,

GA78LMT-USB3/Radeon HD3000 April2014 - unable to display all icons inside screen area, none of ControlPanel adjustments effective for AOC LE19K097 any resolution, 60Hz (checked correct).

I need to do a 32-bit rebuild in OE

probably mission critical for older kit/testing/diagnosis/etc. Too many kernel changes/options in the last couple of years pushing out old HW - an old story in this business! All about $$$, never mind the landfill. Instructive to examine polls of what most punters use their PCs for! Puppy-users probably atypical in that respect?

[foxpup]

I need to do a 32-bit rebuild in OE

probably mission critical for older kit/testing/diagnosis/etc. Too many kernel changes/options in the last couple of years pushing out old HW - an old story in this business! All about $$$, never mind the landfill. Instructive to examine polls of what most punters use their PCs for! Puppy-users probably atypical in that respect?

Good point Sage. The latest 214 and legacyOS2017 releases are maybe a better option for the typical Puppy user who has a single >10y old machine.
On the other side, there are more and more Puppy users with newer machines, but these are mostly 64bit and if EFI, cannot boot 32bit easily from the harddisk.

[Sage]

Correct. Personally, as a privileged owner of the lot, old&new, portable, pocket, mobiles & full towers, even museum pieces, it behoves the more fortunates to be mindful of others, the planet and, not least actual requirements! Alien concepts in some quarters.
Frankly, the RPi is underrated for performance low power drain and cheapness. That might be a better path to tread? I still run BK's original offering on a B+.
As for UEFI, we need more of those proverbial six-year olds with their rusty screwdrivers to build NewEgg's (CCLonline - UK) specify-your-own HW with full (de)structions including pictures, choosing m/b s that include the 'Legacy' option. Too busy won't wash.
At one time Puppy was the panacea for alcomers: wondering whether recent kernels have killed the golden goose?

[Minnesota]

Good day:

I am on a fast 4GH system, 16gb of memory. Please let everyone know that load time of the CD iso can be very long, be patient. It might by my system but the average boot up with the CD is over five minutes to a desktop.

Booting after Installing to a 8gb stick, was very fast.

Running directly from the CD/ I do not believe plugging in a stick is detected. In order for me to install to the stick I had to manually mount the stick that contained the ISO. Copy the ISO to downloads folder.

Speaking of that. At first I plugged in a used - older version - 0.5 stick, clicked on Install icon, selected full to a stick... and it sat and looked at me. I presumed it dropped to the desktop. I have no idea what it was doing. Next I Gparted the stick. Encounter quite a bit of monkeying around till I found I needed the ISO directly from a download, not the bootable CD.

Installer will not use the CD to acquitted the files.... and does not give any error messages. Simply sits, or drops to desktop.

Barry, would you please restore to future versions Dongl's Network Wizard.

Thank you.

[BarryK]

Oh botheration, printing is broken in 0.6.

How did that go wrong?

Kernel upgrade? Have no idea.

Will test printing in older versions, find what works. Hopefully then I will have an idea where the blame lies.

Apart from it won't print, there is another problem:

Can choose a new printer OK, and the CUPS browser interface the printer is shown as available, but in the GTK print dialog it isn't listed!!!!

...this seems suspiciously like a kernel problem, especially as 0.6 has upgraded to the 4.14.1 kernel.


Also, the CUPS test-print, fails.

Have any of you guys tried printing, from an earlier version?

EDIT
tested Pyro64 0.5 and 0.4, printing fails.

I could have sworn that I testing printing in an earlier version and it was ok.

[scsijon]

wifi wlan0 seems to work for me (and my wireless is tempremental at the best of times).

did notice an acpid: error when it shot down the first time, but it was too fast to follow and it hasn't reappeared the three times i've started it since so I take it it needed to setup something the first time.

added pmusic to test out both d/l'ing and installing a pet, was ok, I still prefer pmusic for a downloaded track to xine as it seems to use less cpu to do the same thing, but xine is definately the way better for a cd or video music track.

Other than problem3 from my earlier message against 0.5 (and not worrying about it as as barry said need s gtk programmer to sort), I think i'm happy for now.

I shall test further later in the week to see what I can break

[foxpup]

Another little thing:
Show Location does not do anything in pFind.

That one came up before, and I tested it and it worked.

you need to highlight the file first.

I knew that . It gives a warning that nothing is selected. But it gave nothing to me.
I installed 0.6 and it works alright. Bizar?
The wifi persistence problem is still there in pyro-0.6, for me. Am I the only one?
Could the output in console, running rc.network, be of any help to solve it? There is an error "ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132" which looks like a clue. When I google this error the solution is often something with rfkill.

[don570]

Another little thing:
Show Location does not do anything in pFind.

Works for me. Use pfind to find the 'defaultfilemanager' file.

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[don570]

Good . Version 0.6
Mypaint 1.3 now works properly with external apps

However gimp hasn't been upgraded to
gimp-2.8.22

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[don570]

Installed on 32 gb USB stick using 4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr.gz script
- IBM Thinkcentre desktop

I wasn't able to set up a Samba server with Pyro64 0.6
I am using Simple Samba Management. It appears to go smoothly.
The other computer can see the share but doesn't connect,
apparently because there isn't a user defined??

However I defined root (password = woofwoof)

Another interesting thing I discovered...
When I tried to define another samba user

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smbpasswd -a don570

It wouldn't accept this.

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# smbpasswd -a don570
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
Failed to add entry for user don570.

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[scsijon]

If you haven't already found it, cups seems to be in "task-core-lsb-command-add", together with localedef, fontconfig-utils, mailx, msmtp, chkconfig, xdg-utils, foomatic-filters, and ghostscript. Makes me wonder about them also?

That's if i'm not having you "suck eggs".

EDIT1: Ok I apologise, looks like I really need to re-read OE and get my knowledgebase updated on this one.
from BLFS:
The CUPS Filters package contains backends, filters and other software that was once part of the core CUPS distribution but is no longer maintained by Apple Inc.
BLFS uses cups-filters 1.17.2, is it worth trying that rather than going backward.
I wonder if OE is using pdf-printing still https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/openpr ... job_format.

[BarryK]

Good . Version 0.6
Mypaint 1.3 now works properly with external apps

However gimp hasn't been upgraded to
gimp-2.8.22

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Yeah, I am using the gimp in OE.

[BarryK]

I got printing working in Pyro64 0.6:

http://bkhome.org/news/201711/no-cups-s ... edded.html

That was by manually compiling packages in Pyro64. Now the challenge is to apply the fixes in OE.

Not so good that I had to rollback cups-filters, fixing it, but I don't know why. But then, have had mysterious things like that before, with cups.

[don570]

I was able to get pclock to work in pyro64 v0.6
by installing pclock 0.7.2

Then changing one line to recognize the music player from pmusic to 'defaultmediaplayer' (or xinewrapper)

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	pschedule -s -e "defaultmediaplayer '$ALARM'" "music Alarm" &

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pschedule -s -e "xinewrapper '$ALARM'" "music Alarm" &

There is a splash screen which I can't get rid of but that's okay with me.

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[Sage]

Note, I am now doing a complete x86 32-bit (i686) recompile in OE.

Yippee^2.

[don570]

The open file window...

has 'floppy' and another item 'pts'

The icon is missing beside floppy.

My computer does have a floppy drive but I never use it.

Could it be a line in fstab file???
Stretch linux has same problem
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 155#975155
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