Some websites seem to overload the computer

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ac2011
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#31 Post by ac2011 »

8Geee wrote:I had some fun with Flash's BIG truck page
Me too: 32-bit Wary-based Puppy (2.6-series kernel) with Pale Moon 27.3 on an ancient Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz laptop with 2GB RAM. Ublock Origin installed.

Page finishes loading in 9 seconds and is fully usable, though CPU use looks to be hovering around 20%.

CSS is a big issue on some sites, not just JavaScript. I agree that most web developers have completely lost the plot (I was one for almost 20 years, never did anything dumb like this) but this does also seem to be an issue for newer kernels / 64-bit systems.
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Moose On The Loose
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#32 Post by Moose On The Loose »

ac2011 wrote: I agree that most web developers have completely lost the plot
I am sure that the "really bad web site industry" is causing quite a lot of harm to some businesses and a bit of help to others.

A case of harm:
This of you who know electronics will get way this is extra bad.
www.linearsystems.com is a maker of super low noise JFETs among other things like that. A few months back, they rolled out a new web shite. Because of a "" where a "/" belongs, you can't easily find their datasheets. Not long after they switched over, I told them about this. It is still not fixed. I am sure that other designers have used the BF862 when the ideal part would have been the LSK170 because of this. No doubt they have lost zillion and zillion of sales in just the last few months.

A case of help:
We are thinking about dropping cable.
www.nbc.com pretends to be a place where you can watch shows on line. So far no web browser I have tried has been able to make it all the way to showing the video of an episode. Right now I have Slacko running in virtual box trying to do it and showing "transferring data from ping.chartbeat.net". That is where seamonkey stopped. It is just sitting there. In other browsers, the player thing flashed now and then but never plays. The result is another month of paying for cable TV.

Javascript need not be clunky and slow.
change the name of the attached to mountains.html it renders the picture from the ground up every time a new picture is needed.
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belham2
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#33 Post by belham2 »

Moose On The Loose wrote:A case of help:
We are thinking about dropping cable.
www.nbc.com pretends to be a place where you can watch shows on line.

How Netflix can get this so right (imho) and the media companies who still have literally $$billions in their fin'l holdings, can get this so wrong, is beyond me. This is not 2000 or 2010. It is almost 2020. Anybody at the old media giants who can't get this correct, and do it right away, should summarily be shown the retirement door.

One of the unintended rearguard actions of these media companies behavior (by idiotically throwing money where they shouldn't) is you've got people in the browser industry dedicated to making the browser do more at the consumer-end-point, hence the size of the browser keeps growing, and its slowness starts to show. They do this to attract $$$$ from these media companies. Google is guilty as crap with this, I know personally. The problem overall is not the browsers or consumer machines or even the pipes delivering it anymore (Netflix proved this is no longer an issue). The problem is not knowing how to deal content to your end users. Actually, many European cable and media and Internet companies are getting this right. As usual, the U.S. is lagging behind, again, by about a decade. Same goes for things like banking security and such, and that is scary, as things are still not perfect here.

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#34 Post by mostly_lurking »

8Geee wrote:I had some fun with Flash's BIG truck page...
Diamondville Atom N270 2Gb mem (DDR2-667) Eth0 at 6Mb/s

FF27: 30seconds to fully load and operate.
ABE, Better Privacy, RedirectCleaner
*** Edit: websites use their own fonts ***

FF45.8esr 120seconds to fully load and operate
AdBlockUlt only... social media links still displayed after "blocking" them explicitly. Only 19 items in ABU !!!
*** Edit: websites CANNOT use their own fonts ***

Both have same general About configs, except 45.8esr HAS to have much more falsed/disabled.

It would appear at first blush that older browsers that cannot deal with new "end-arounds" in coding are therefore "Blissfully Ignorant" and just skip over the offending code.
Firefox 13 with Adblock Plus: 30 seconds.
Ancient Seamonkey 1 with Adblock: 15 seconds. Can't display the videos and some other things.

Yes, browsers usually ignore what they can't handle. The older the browser, the less bullsh*t it displays, and the less bloated it is. That's quite nice, as long as you don't mind looking at half-broken webpages. (I don't, and I'll probably stick with that Seamonkey browser until it really becomes unusable, or until web- and browser developers eventually return to sanity. I don't have much hope about that, though...)
Moose On The Loose wrote:Javascript need not be clunky and slow.
change the name of the attached to mountains.html it renders the picture from the ground up every time a new picture is needed.
Neat. It works well on Firefox 13, and the CPU usage is pretty low.

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