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richard.a

Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006, 01:52 Post subject:
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That's what I experience too.
Now if they would allow those who post to not just edit but also delete their own posts (like many other similar forums do), it would go a long way towards fixing the visual effect.
It is a simple admin setting in the forum software that is enabled by default.
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vito
Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 51 Location: US
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Posted: Fri 09 Feb 2007, 01:56 Post subject:
Gliesl's XPuppy Pro Subject description: Upgrading Howto? |
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I have tried Updating Gliesl's puppy to 2.13 via the puppy installer only to find that it completely does away with Xpuppy's windows style taskbar.
I haven't checked yet to see if it changes the desktop as well. Anyone know if it is possible to upgrade without losing all the beautiful graphics work?
BTW I've already tried the icewm xp/vista and find that I am not enough of a hacker to put up with all of the buggyness of this process even though it produces some really stellar graphics.
Mny Thx,
Vito
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MU

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 13642 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
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Posted: Fri 09 Feb 2007, 20:43 Post subject:
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exit X (hit ctrl alt backspace).
Then type:
xwin fvwm95
If it fails:
xwin jwm
Mark
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richard.a

Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Posted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 07:15 Post subject:
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| MU wrote: | exit X (hit ctrl alt backspace).
Then type:
xwin fvwm95
If it fails:
xwin jwm
Mark |
Sorry Mark, that doesn't work.
To check this out, I just fired up a duplicate of Gliesel's save file with her Cd, and (as you would expect) the duplicate saved file works.
I then upgraded it to 2.13 and (of course) it replaced everything that was not "standard" with stuff off the new CD.
I ran across an X-server video problem as discussed in another thread, but that isn't material to this one.
There is only jwm, no fvwm, on the 2.13 distribution CD from what I can see.
I tried a forlorn hope - I rebooted using Gliesel's original CD after upgrading to 2.13, nah it didn't work! I said it was a forlorn hope, lol
So I suspect all that can be done is to go through her directory structure and transfer all the icons etc... and also add fvwm95 to the install as well... but how much of an advantage is 2.13, I wonder? The 2.02 she used runs very nicely on my computers.
Richard in warm Adelaide.
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richard.a

Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Posted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 07:47 Post subject:
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Tried to edit that post. Three times.
Three times it told me it was invalid and I should resubmit it.
I did and it still would not accept it.
Each time I logged out and back in again and that didn't work either.
So please replace the paragraph as below...
| Quote: | | So I suspect all that can be done is to go through her directory structure and transfer all the icons etc... and also add fvwm95 to the install as well... but how much of an advantage is 2.13, I wonder? The 2.02 she used runs very nicely on my computers. |
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| Quote: | | So I suspect all that can be done is to go through her directory structure and transfer all the icons etc... and then all her coding... and also add fvwm95 to the install as well... but how much of an advantage is 2.13, I wonder? The 2.02 she used runs very nicely on my computers. |
Richard
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cicerosc
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2007, 09:16 Post subject:
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Could someone post the current state of this project.... or directions to where to find the latest version?
thanks
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richard.a

Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2007, 09:39 Post subject:
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| cicerosc wrote: | Could someone post the current state of this project.... or directions to where to find the latest version?
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Hi cicerosc and welcome to the forums
There is a Community Edition called version 2.15ce which has been through several alpha and beta test phases. Release Candidate 3 is about to be released, and that may well be followed by the "public" version.
The work done by gliesl here, and several other folks has been put to good use in this new specialised version which is woth reading the various threads about. You can find them at this main forum address listed down the page...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=34
Enjoy
Richard in Australia
PS The forum is playing up badly on this thread. This is the second time I've got an "Invalid Session. Please resubmit the form" message. Tried several times.
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over_soul
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009, 17:27 Post subject:
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I like it, I want to download it, but the links are inactive... (the core is Puppy Linux, right?)
Can someone give me an active link?
Thanks in advance
BTW, how big is it? (Megabytes)
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Dingo

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1397 Location: somewhere at the end of rainbow...
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009, 18:18 Post subject:
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| over_soul wrote: | I like it, I want to download it, but the links are inactive... (the core is Puppy Linux, right?)
Can someone give me an active link?
Thanks in advance
BTW, how big is it? (Megabytes) |
you can download from me (76.11 MB)
http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/pupplets:puppy_xp
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richard.a

Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Posted: Sun 18 Oct 2009, 02:10 Post subject:
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over_soul if Dingo hadn't replied I could also have put it up for you... I'm attempting to put together a repository of what I've liked and the add-ons I've found useful - all being suitable for old boxes.
And, yes, it is Puppy version 2.02
Just a warning, though.
Older kernels (on older distributions) do not coexist at all with SATA drives (modern hardware).
As most modern computers have SATA motherboards, which conveniently have an IDE connection for a maximum of two drives for what Microsoft sneeringly refers to as legacy hardware, you may be able to get away with removing SATA cables and drives and using just the IDE.
That is as true for SATA CD and DVD drives as it is for hard drives.
There is a way round part of this problem.
If you have a working windows98 boot floppy (and a floppy drive) and you make yourself a bootable USB flashdrive that way, you may be able to get by with some fiddling.
Best of luck, and please contact us again if you need to.
Another good tip...
On earlier boxes you may get some later distributions to work by adding the statement irqpoll to the boot command string on the live CD - and also on the installed version if you get that far. In Live CD mode the whole string is:
puppy pfix=ram irqpoll
Richard in Adelaide
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over_soul
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sun 18 Oct 2009, 11:15 Post subject:
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Thank you Dingo I'm downloading now
richard.a, thanks for the info
One last question - what are the minimum system requirements? And how it'll work on a very slow machine (say, 300 MHz, 512 RAM)? I'm asking, because I'm thinking, maybe I'll be able to bring to live some of my old computers, witch will be great
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richard.a

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Posted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 03:27 Post subject:
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It should work very well
I have run the basic 2.02 as a demo on a Pentium 100 (without MMX) with 64Mb of RAM and a swap file. It was not fast.
I have run it very succesfully on Intel Pentium 300MHz and an AMD K6-2 300MHz (and faster) from the old fleet of IBM Aptivas with very great success.
They all have two slots for RAM and seriously you should be able to pick up sticks of RAM for those boxes for literally nothing.
The RAM they use would have two notches in them, to differentiate from later RAM tht has a single notch in a different location.
I would also recommend your using Firefox browser (you can upgrade from 2.0.0.1 to 2.0.0.20 once installed using Mozilla's update menu item). Also to use Sylpheed as an email client if you don't wish to use web mail. Leave the other browser and mail clients in there, they use very little overheads.
I'll post a link to how it looks on one of my boxen when I get a moment
Best of luck
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 06:50 Post subject:
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| over_soul wrote: | Thank you Dingo I'm downloading now
richard.a, thanks for the info
One last question - what are the minimum system requirements? And how it'll work on a very slow machine (say, 300 MHz, 512 RAM)? I'm asking, because I'm thinking, maybe I'll be able to bring to live some of my old computers, witch will be great  |
have you tried 2.14X? http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42553
its made for older computers with the latest software like firefox 3, flash 10, rox, and over 100+ updates, but still has the older kernel and Xorg , uses 34MB of ram at boot and sata drives work fine.
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danrael
Joined: 03 Jan 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon 03 Jan 2011, 21:14 Post subject:
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Been trying for days to download xpuppy pro from the two links provided. One looks down permanently and the other unavailable. Are there other active links available someone here knows about and can post? If not, can someone upload their copy and provide a viable download link. This is frustrating.
Thanks
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37fleetwood

Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 403
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan 2011, 01:14 Post subject:
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I have to say that coming from Windows the biggest issue I had with Puppy Linux was the use of ROX. I have played with both Jwm and fvwm95 and 98 pretty extensively and found that the most "Windows XP" experience is simply had by picking the latest Puppy and installing Xfce. it makes sense and functions very intuitively. you could also simply install Thunar and change a few things so when you click on a folder it comes up. it's not as small but I think the whole Xfce package is worth it for a Windows convert.
if it serves your purpose better to have an older puplet use one of Grey's NOP puplets. I still have my old puppy-216-NOP disc laying around, I even have the iso in a folder !
216-NOP uses Jwm and ROX but if you move up to 217-NOP it uses Xfce.
I think all the NOP's are still readily available.
wNOP-v0.2 is kinda fun, it's basically a puppy 3 variety with the NOP treatment and Compiz added in for fun.
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