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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Posts: 5019
Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jan 2018, 14:19    Post subject:  

gmic plug-in for GIMP will work nicely in Easy

Available:
gmic-1.7.9-easy.pet
Size: 3.17mb

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1InHIKtswMd6sf6O0F6Rar49awtymD-cO
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Blender 2.79 (most recent) will work on Easy 0.7
even if intel 945 graphics chip is used by machine
That means that OpenGL works.

Here is what a launch of blender looks like.
Code:
# ./blender
AL lib: (EE) UpdateDeviceParams: Failed to set 44100hz, got 48000hz instead
found bundled python: /mnt/sda1/blender-2.79-1d33843ea6b-linux-glibc219-x86_64/blender-2.79-1d33843ea6b-linux-glibc219-x86_64/2.79/python

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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 20 Jan 2018, 14:27    Post subject:  

After spending a full day with Easy, I had a crash.
I seems that when I have a lot of windows open
the window manager makes a mistake and doesn't make a top window bar
for a window. I have to reboot.


I have never seen this problem with Fatdog linux.
It uses a special version of Rox filer.
https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer/

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foxpup


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Location: europa near northsea

PostPosted: Mon 22 Jan 2018, 08:04    Post subject: Re: freeze
Subject description: stop on prompt before going to X
 

BarryK wrote:
Did you try 0.6.6 on that PC?

It has different video software.

I have now. It still "freezes", just a bit differently: some parts of the desktop come up, aplet tray, icons, background, often misplaced, for a few moments, when I move the mouse it draws the track, and then the screen turns black while the computer keeps running. I have to stop it with the push button. On restart there is a fsck (wrong date less than a day in the future on block) and Easy may or may not get to X properly.
A sure way to get to X is to stop at the prompt and type xwin.
Same thing for Easy-0.7.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 07:58    Post subject:  

A quick progress report. Not posting much here, or my blog, as I am working on EasyShare "version 3".

This is a complete rewrite, with a fairly sophisticated GUI. With QuickSamba and the first version of EasyShare, any selections in the GUI caused the app to exit and restart, rebuilding the gtkdialog XML code. Now, mostly, the GUI updates dynamically without having to restart the app -- but this requires a lot more coding.

I have also had to learn more about gtkdialog, hence lots of questions posted here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38608&start=1230

EasyShare is making everything highly automated. File sharing is by Samba or SSHFS, the latter is best for Linux-to-Linux sharing.

I am hoping to create a PET so EasyShare can be used in other pups.

Along the way, have stumbled upon some bugs in Easy. There was a problem with containers, that may cause instability -- fixed.

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Sage

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Location: GB

PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 09:22    Post subject:  

There is still a small but serious oversight with the boot-up defaults - the default resolution is far too high to the point of risking failure if started on older monitor. Happened to me this morning when testing a SOTA with new PSU. Grabbed an older monitor - amazingly got a picture with 1600x1200 and an error message floating across stating 'out of range' or similar. Managed to drop to 1240x687/whatever without damage, but the risk of overdriving perfectly good test gear is there whether a liveCD.iso or a boot-USB stick is deployed.

Please, please, Barry - surely it can't be too arduous to adjust this? If you describe the modification(s) I'll give it try, but unless the source is changed, someone else could be seeing puffs of white smoke...

Today: confirmed risky default resolution on several additional systems.

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Cu Chulinux


Joined: 28 Jan 2018
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Location: About 180 degrees from Australia

PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 16:20    Post subject: First Impressions  

Hi, new to the forum, also new(ish) to Puppy. Not to Linux though.

I started playing with Easy and thought I'd give my 2 cents (in Canada now that would be 5 cents).

1. I booted Easy Pyro 0.7 using USB on my Toshiba laptop. This is a fairly up-to-date computer with Win 10 by default. Booting from USB there would be constant lagging and freezing. Pretty much unusable. Not sure what issue was.

For the record I've been using puppies through the Lick installer to not fiddle with the Win10 install. Mainly using Fatdog but also XenialPup and Slacko (latest). Older pups and Quirky would not load using Lick from hard drive although Quirky works fine from USB.

2. I read the "How Easy OS works" and was intrigued by the concepts. I realize it's still alpha. Decided to try a hard drive install so I did so. Took four reboots from USB to do so with the freezing up but finally succeeded.

3. Rebooted to hard drive and went straight to Lick. Oops, UEFI superseded by Grub4DOS. No Easy OS there. Booted to Win10 and uninstalled Lick bootloader. Now boots directly to Windows. Could not figure out how to get to a UEFI boot menu. Reinstalled Lick bootloader and duplicated the Windows boot section to boot Easy OS from UEFI. Success. Now I use the Lick boot menu to get to the Easy boot menu to boot Easy OS.

4. Easy OS runs fine from hd unless I have a second pointer device plugged in when booting (in my case a Kensington trackball). In that case I get lags and strange blank windows. If I boot with the trackball unplugged and then plug it in after booting I have no issues. No I did not boot the USB with the trackball plugged in. Easy is also the only "pup" that boots with readable text from the beginning, the rest start out with scanning issues until later in the process.

5. PkGget never finds packages to install remotely. Well, it lists them but when I click to install it only looks on local drive. I tried installing a JWMtheme from pet-noarch. I surfed to the webpage where PKGget points to (http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/noarch/packages/pet/pet_packages-noarch/) and the pets are there. But to install I have to manually download them and then install from local hd.

6. I can report that many AppImge programs run fine. Those with issues generally due to missing libraries, either XCB or GTK3 related.
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don570


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 14:11    Post subject:  

I installed Easy pyro 0.7.0 to my hard disk as previously reported, and
have been using it now for over a week.

I can report that it is stable, however I notice occasionally that a window
loses it's frame (and can't be moved). It has happened with several apps but rox and xine in particular.

I believe that keeping as many ROX windows closed helps to avoid the problem happening.
When it happens to Rox , I use the Rox bookmark to go to a window that is small.

When it happens to Xine I can run another multimedia file and the old window goes away.

So I have gotten accustomed to this and it's not too bad.
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Sage

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Location: GB

PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2018, 05:36    Post subject:  

Occasional loss of mouse (PS/2) after ~5mins. Can be restored by CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE or plugging USB mouse. ???
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scsijon

Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 1316
Location: the australian mallee

PostPosted: Fri 02 Feb 2018, 23:52    Post subject:  

Lenovo Ideapad problem:

Easy Pyro 0.7 works with my new ssd when the m.2 is in an external frame and via a usb3 port, but not when the ssd is in it's internal socket?
It's a Intel 600p series 128gb PCIe NVMe card so maybe a driver or kernel setting is missing.
Oh, and it works in windows10 if internal, so it's not a dead hardware port problem.

Any ideas folks?
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stemsee

Joined: 27 Jun 2013
Posts: 2164
Location: In The Way

PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2018, 20:10    Post subject:  

The setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev-puppy.conf didn't work on my cherry tablet.

Touchscreen works but I cannot get xorg to emulate rightclick. But I got it to emulate on trackpad which doesn't work with flsynclient/synaptics driver.

The format that didn't work is

Code:
Option "Emulate3Buttons"


This worked for trackpad
Code:
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "evdev pointer catchall"
        MatchIsPointer "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option     "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
        Option      "EmulateThirdButton" "1"
        Option   "EmulateThirdButtonThreshold" "20"
        Option      "EmulateThirdButtonTimeout" "750"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 3438
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 19:09    Post subject: EasyOS Pyro64 0.7, Xerus64 0.6.8, released Jan. 17/4, 2018  

I haven't used my Acer Revo for a few months but today it's running
Quirky 0.6.8 :

System: Host: EASYPC5153 Kernel: 4.14.11 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976
Distro: Quirky 0.6.8 xerus64
Machine: System: Acer product: Aspire R3610 serial: PTSCX0205302001AC12700
Mobo: Acer model: FMCP7A-ION-LE serial: U020102009703
Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A4 date: 11/03/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Atom 330 (-HT-MCP-) speed: 1600 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA ION VGA
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 105x28 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
Card-2: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Drives: HDD Total Size: 176.0GB (1.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 21 F (-6 C) - light snow Time: February 7, 5:48 PM EST
Info: Processes: 108 Uptime: 35 min Memory: 159.2/1496.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

It's a 16gb SDHC card install that I used on another computer but is
working well on this one after changing a few settings, also updated
flash player and firefox to 58.0.1.

It's working well,
Thanks.
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Grogster


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 19:28    Post subject:  

Hi all. Smile

@ Barry: This new 0.7 version looks great. I am delighted you went back to the green colour-scheme - I love that. Wink No problems at all running this version so far. EasyShare is a beautiful feature. Once out of Alpha/Beta testing, EasyOS will become a lovely basis for a simple NAS.
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don570


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 20:38    Post subject:  


Note : For a headless and wireless NAS


A non-GUI app to set the wireless connection is needed.
Fatdog64 has network-setup.sh
As explained here....
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/Networking.html


First a connection is made by ethernet and SSH or dropbear

Using SSH the non-GUI app is launched in the terminal and the wireless settings made.


Here is a Raspberry pi connected to a MAC computer,
with the Raspberry pi acting as the server.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=74176&sid=2245003e801dd44d0f4f19c0e335476e
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I am making my own headless machine with a raspberry pi2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982541#982541
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2018, 16:34    Post subject: Further networking improvements  

I have continued to work on refinements to networking in Easy, to accommodate the slow loading of drivers. The changes to Easy 0.7 are:
    1. SNS rc.network: wait time increased to 30 seconds, because my wifi interface takes about 27 seconds to become listed by ifconfig.

    2. SNS rc.network: adds 'rfkill unblock wlan' before the first wireless 'ifconfig...up', to prevent failure due to a soft-block on some wifi devices -- reported by foxpup, who worked with me to determine the best solution, which matches a fix to frisbee made a few years ago after recommendation from peebee.

    3. rc.network_eth: changed to log the wait time for wired interface to become available, but keeps 20-second maximum, because mine requires 18 seconds.

    4. frisbee initialization script: adds wait logic for its iwconfig check for wifi interfaces, with 30-second maximum (replacing the 5-second sleep) and logging of the wait time.

    5. frisbee disconnect: removes restart of dhcpcd, to avoid use of conflicting .conf files if a different network manager (SNS) is then started, as well as for consistency with networkdisconnect.

    6. Connect AppRun: changed order of interface tests to check frisbee first, so that the correct versions of .conf files are used.

    7. connectwizard, connectwizard_2nd and (connect) AppRun: changed to also interface with frisbee 1.4.x, so users can install the new frisbee 1.4.7, which includes the iwconfig-wait logic. (Easy needs 18-seconds but xenialpup needs no wait.) Frisbee 1.4.7 is here:
    http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=898555#898555

    8. network_default_connect: removes any residual settings in resolv.conf, to ensure its initial content is current, and adds frisbee support.

    9. networkdisconnect: adds frisbee support.
Install the .pet package to make the updates to a running system. Or use the difference lists as patches to Easy's files.
network_connect_updates-Easy-20180209-beta.pet
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Same as 20180207 but with corrected 'connect' icon.
pet

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2018, 20:34    Post subject:  

rerwin,
Thanks for that, I will look at it soon.

I think that I did not quite implement everything that you suggested last time, some, but not all. Part of the reason is that I get diverted onto something else.

Quirky Xerus64 8.4, just released, has the same skeleton code, almost, as Easy 0.7, so fixes will apply to that also.

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