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Easy Linux 0.4 pre-alpha, released Aug 27, 2017
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun 2017, 10:36    Post subject:  

Easy 0.2 (cannot test 0.3, it doesnt go to the desktop)

- missing libraries :
In /usr/bin/
libnuma.so.1 => not found
libquadmath.so.0 => not found
liblavjpeg-2.1.so.0 => not found
liblavfile-2.1.so.0 => not found
liblavplay-2.1.so.0 => not found
libappindicator3.so.1 => not found
libgimp-2.0.so.0 => not found
libgimpbase-2.0.so.0 => not found

In /usr/sbin/
libx86.so.1 => not found
libpipeline.so.1 => not found
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jun 2017, 11:29    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

are you sure all those 100s of packages are really needed ? Maybe you can sort out "the not needed" and not include them anymore ? It will allow to have a lighter puppy and an easier work for compiling. Just a simple idea.

Cheers, linuxcbon
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FeodorF


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 07:20    Post subject: FreeFileSync  

Quirky Pyro64 version 0.2 and Easy Linux 0.3 alpha work very well with 'FreeFileSync'.

See Barry's news: http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00565

a) Download FreeFileSync_9.1_Ubuntu_17.04_64-bit.tar.gz https://www.freefilesync.org/download/FreeFileSync_9.1_Ubuntu_17.04_64-bit.tar.gz
b) extract to the same folder: FreeFileSync, RealTimeSync, Resources.zip
c) click on FreeFileSync and you are good to go.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jun 2017, 07:20    Post subject:  

Well, major effort, but have imported about 140 packages into OpenEmbedded. It is now on github, for others to use, and provide input:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00576

So, should be able to get back to building Easy and Quirky!

I have just done a x86_64 Quirky build, and booted it on my laptop. Everything tested so far, works. There are lots more Xorg drivers, and when I do a i686 build in OE, this will be very good for older PCs.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jun 2017, 06:00    Post subject: Easy Linux 0.3 alpha, released May 29 2017
Subject description: peasyglue
 

Barry,
updated our translation tool momanager
see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81259
to work also in Easy's full install (also working for en and its flavours).
Hope you like it.

Missing rcrsn51's peasyglue in Easy.

I have Easy installed on a 8 GiB USB stick.
I do like that I could simply add my boot code
Code:
drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/1920x1080.bin

to syslinux.cfg, both of them in / and under EFI.

Resolution changer does not really change anything for me....
With Fatdog or slacko64 it does Rolling Eyes
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jun 2017, 13:55    Post subject:  

I tried the frugal install, changed BOOT_SPECS' for /dev/sda2
BOOT_PARTNUM=2
BOOT_FS='ext2'
WKG_PARTNUM=2
WKG_FS='ext2'
etc.
it booted kernel and sfs OK, went to command line but didnt start xwin. Something wrong with chroot , I dont know what went wrong.
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gyro

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jun 2017, 19:05    Post subject:  

Just 1 little problem with installing 0.3 alpha on a 4GB usb sd card, using puppy linux; on reboot after the "dd" had finished, my uefi hung. I had to remove the easy linux usb sd card from the machine before it would boot at all.
After booting back into my normal work puppy, I reinserted the sd card and ran gparted against it. It complained, so I clicked on the "fix" button. (I created the ext4 partition while I was there).
On reboot after that, a uefi boot of the sd card gave me Easy Linux 0.3.
I suspect the issue was the missing backup partition table on the end of the sd card.
Interestingly, a normal mbr boot of the sd card failed, in that it went to my normal grub4dos boot, not Easy Linux.

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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug 2017, 17:48    Post subject:  

I keep finding scripts that have unnecessary sleep commands in while loops... leading to long boot times. for future reference, the while command only checks the last of a compound list of commands (separated by newlines or semicolons)... almost all boot scripts contain at least 1 culprit (including easy)
here's a demo of how to make the sleep conditional:
Code:
x=0
Foo=""
Bar=""
while
  [ "$Foo" ] || Foo=$(get_foo)
  [ "$Bar" ] || Bar=$(get_bar)
  [ ! "$Foo" || ! "$Bar && $x < 9 ]
do
  x = $((x+1))
  sleep 1
done
basically just move everything in the while loop to before the condition with exception of the sleep and optionally the count
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Aug 2017, 17:32    Post subject: wifi connection
Subject description: wlan0 not persistent (?)
 

I can setup wifi with SNS, as in all puppies.
To setup wifi connection at bootup I put/link rc.network in the Startup direcory. That normally works, but not in easy 0.3 (nor in Quirky Xerus).
Even worse: in SNS the first offer to use the profile wlan0 (connect now) does not work. So I have to go through the setup of the interface again.

Is the profile not persistent? Or does it only look that way?
Running SNS verbose in console shows an error about 10 lines before exit:
Code:
ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Aug 2017, 21:52    Post subject: Feeling sluggish...  

Travelling; forgot my trusty Q-Slaq, and downloaded Easy.03 to give it a spin.
So far, I have not had a good experience. Mostly a lot of lag between switching application when multiple apps are open, Seamonly and Firefox, both stutter a lot.

I will keep testing in a couple of other boxes...

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Aug 2017, 06:36    Post subject: Re: wifi connection
Subject description: wlan0 not persistent (?)
 

foxpup wrote:
I can setup wifi with SNS, as in all puppies.
To setup wifi connection at bootup I put/link rc.network in the Startup direcory. That normally works, but not in easy 0.3 (nor in Quirky Xerus).
Even worse: in SNS the first offer to use the profile wlan0 (connect now) does not work. So I have to go through the setup of the interface again.

Is the profile not persistent? Or does it only look that way?
Running SNS verbose in console shows an error about 10 lines before exit:
Code:
ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132


I also experienced that, and then the problem just "went away".

I suspect it might have gone away after I selected the "CRD" in quicksetup. If you run quicksetup (Setup menu), you will see the CRD listbox. Choose your country, and see if that fixes it.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Aug 2017, 06:38    Post subject:  

Advance notice:

I think maybe Monday or Tuesday, will upload Easy 0.4, still classified as pre-alpha.

0.4 will be built from Ubuntu DEBs, 16.04.3.

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Aug 2017, 21:12    Post subject:  

Easy version 0.4 is uploaded, still classified as pre-alpha.

Download:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64/releases/xerus/0.4/

Unresolved issues:

That problem reported earlier, about SNS not automatically connecting at bootup.

The desktop icons layout has changed, and you will notice two of them have symlink symbols. Need to remove those.

The is now "apps" icon on desktop, launches PupApps, but this is not configured for the apps in Easy, such as Libreoffice.

The container mechanism needs more work. I did fix some bugs since 0.3, however, want to rethink some of it, such as improving startup time. Also, the security parts of it need a lot of work.

New features:

Another new desktop icon "sgsget", you can use this to download the "devx" sfs.

Unlike previous Easy 0.3, this one is built from Ubuntu Xenial Xerus 16.04.3 DEBs.

The build includes the markdown plugin, and some other plugins, for Geany text editor.

Installation:

USB flash drive image only. There is documentation on how to write it to a flash drive:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.3/howto-install.htm

Frugal installation is documented here:
http://barryk.org/easy/easy-frugal-install.htm

Docs:
To get some idea what Easy OS is all about:
http://barryk.org/easy/how-easy-works.htm

...due to be updated soon.

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Aug 2017, 07:00    Post subject:  

Sadly Sad no success with frugal install on my desktop pc with nvidia graphics....
Quote:
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: ASRock model: N68C-S UCC
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P1.60 date: 09/19/2011
CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 260 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 12857
clock speeds: min/max: 800/3200 MHz 1: 1900 MHz 2: 1900 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]
bus-ID: 00:0d.0 chip-ID: 10de:03d6
EasyOs-0.4 boots and desktop appears for a brief period closely followed by a black screen and removal of signal to screen. Is there an equivalent boot switch of PFIX=nox??

Suggestion to make frugal installs easier....use concatenated commands in the help so they can be directly copied into the terminal - e.g.
Code:
mkdir -p mntpt && mount-FULL -t vfat -o loop,offset=1048576 easy-0.4-amd64.img mntpt

umount-FULL mntpt && rmdir mntpt

mkdir -p initrd-tree && cd initrd-tree && cat ../initrd.q | cpio -i -d -m && cd ..

sync && rm initrd.q && cd initrd-tree && find . | cpio -o -H newc > ../initrd.q && sync && cd ..
- NOTE I had to use mount-FULL and umount-FULL (and umount is missing from help?)
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Aug 2017, 07:42    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Sadly Sad no success with frugal install on my desktop pc with nvidia graphics....
Quote:
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: ASRock model: N68C-S UCC
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P1.60 date: 09/19/2011
CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 260 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 12857
clock speeds: min/max: 800/3200 MHz 1: 1900 MHz 2: 1900 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]
bus-ID: 00:0d.0 chip-ID: 10de:03d6
EasyOs-0.4 boots and desktop appears for a brief period closely followed by a black screen and removal of signal to screen. Is there an equivalent boot switch of PFIX=nox??

Suggestion to make frugal installs easier....use concatenated commands in the help so they can be directly copied into the terminal - e.g.
Code:
mkdir -p mntpt && mount-FULL -t vfat -o loop,offset=1048576 easy-0.4-amd64.img mntpt

umount-FULL mntpt && rmdir mntpt

mkdir -p initrd-tree && cd initrd-tree && cat ../initrd.q | cpio -i -d -m && cd ..

sync && rm initrd.q && cd initrd-tree && find . | cpio -o -H newc > ../initrd.q && sync && cd ..
- NOTE I had to use mount-FULL and umount-FULL (and umount is missing from help?)


If the image is written to a USB stick, at bootup there is a menu, and you can choose to boot without launching X.

Yeah, I have to revise those frugal install instructions.

if you are already running Easy, there is no problem, you just click on the .img file and it mounts.

But doing it the "hard" way, yeah, busybox 'mount' cannot handle the "offset" parameter.

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