EasyOS version 2.3.2, June 22, 2020

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#1096 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:
FeodorF wrote:
BarryK wrote: I am not sure where this is. Do you mean the little popup message that appears briefly, just before the QuickSetup window?

.. that one disappears so fast, I never read it.
I was talking about the first boot up window while the system will create the second (ext) partition.
Ah, that's why I never knew what you guys were complaining about! :wink:

I usually test on my UEFI-BIOS machines, which have a different boot menu (using refind).

When boot on a traditional BIOS machine, Syslinux handles the bootup and you get the Syslinux menu.

My circa-2011 Acer laptop, that I am using right now, running the frugal install, mostly sits neglected these days.

OK, will get onto it.
Finally fixed that one!
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#1097 Post by rufwoof »

Barry, directing new traffic/users towards http://bkhome.org/easy/how-to-write-eas ... drive.html ... does lead to a 'download' folder list that shows Beaver/Pyro/Xerus choices. Whilst I do suggest following the Pyro choice it would be nice if there was a more 'natural' linkage for first timers to follow between how and what to install.
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#1098 Post by rufwoof »

Seem to have some problems with keyboard layouts being lost (I set to uk, sometimes the Easy container reverts to us). All vague at present, I'll post further details if/when I can pin it down more. Just advisory at present.

Edit : Seems to occur if I rollback the main session, where afterwards (rebooting to apply) the Easy containers content/config deviates from its prior pre main session rollback content/config i.e. former uk keyboard set back to us keyboard, and you also have to restore the (Easy) container to get the uk keyboard back again.
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#1099 Post by rufwoof »

Attached is a modified version of 0.9.9 /usr/sbin/easy-version-control (actually gzip'd) that cycles back around again after making a snapshot/restoring ...etc. ... until you select "Quit"

Can't recall who/what/where but someone did mention about it not being intuitive/friendly just to exit with no messages/info after performing a action (which I agree).
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#1100 Post by rufwoof »

Barry. Downloaded your woof and followed the instructions. Ran the Easy pre-run ./merge2out, then ran 0setup, then 1download and it ran through relatively quickly to a 'sort' option (apparently only appropriate for ubuntu/debian) and as I'd opted for a ubuntu choice I opted to sort ... Ran through lines of dots/iterations (19 I think it was to apparently recursive sort) reasonably quickly (several minutes) but then it took hours (around 3 hours I believe) to apparently re-run through downloading again.

No idea of woof or what I'm doing, more just messing around but thought this may be of some interest. At the end of that the top level woof folder properties shows around 1.27GB.

EDIT: returned a couple of days later and ran through 2 and 3 stages and all ran to completion, created a quirky style version that frugal boots. Containers wouldn't run due to missing /usr/bin/empty

Mostly I just pressed Enter (defaults) during the build. For 2 and 3 I'd forgotten to load devx but that didn't seem to matter.
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#1101 Post by BarryK »

@rufwoof
You mentioned recently about rollback 6 times, when depth limit was set to 3.

It didn't click then, but has now. That depth is for versions. There is no limit on number of snapshots in each version.

So in /mnt/wkg/releases, there will only be allowed 3 folders, older will get deleted (along with all its snapshots).
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#1102 Post by rufwoof »

BarryK wrote:It didn't click then, but has now. That depth is for versions. There is no limit on number of snapshots in each version.
Ahh! Thanks. 8)
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#1103 Post by BarryK »

Ha ha, there is now a live-CD:

http://bkhome.org/news/201812/easyos-live-cd-debut.html

I will probably release 0.9.10 in a day or two. There is a lot more to do of course, the to-do list keeps getting added to, however, will tidy up a few things and bring out 0.9.10.

I am hoping that finally will have got the underlying infrastructure sorted out and can freeze it. Then things like upgrading an existing installation will work.
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#1104 Post by belham2 »

BarryK wrote:Ha ha, there is now a live-CD:

http://bkhome.org/news/201812/easyos-live-cd-debut.html.
:shock:

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#1105 Post by Sage »

0.9.10 .iso:
perfect, everything we've come to know and love on one CD. Fulfils so many needs on so many machines.
Many Thanks to BK.

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#1106 Post by rufwoof »

For reference, Xephyr i.e. Easy container, Ctrl-Shift key combination locks/focuses the 'window'. In Easy that window is displayed full screen (-fullscreen parameter in ec-chroot).

If (like me) you at some point press ctrl-shift whilst doing other things (I was creating a spreadsheet), then you may find that alt-F6 doesn't flip you back out to the main session. If so then just press ctrl-shift before trying alt-F6 again.

Just something to keep in mind as it caught me out for a minute or two before I realised what had happened.
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#1107 Post by rufwoof »

Sage wrote:0.9.10 .iso:
perfect, everything we've come to know and love on one CD. Fulfils so many needs on so many machines.
Many Thanks to BK.
I've snitched a sneak preview and burning to dvd and doing a frugal install both started up ok for me. In the case of frugal clicking initrd did the auto update of itself fine ... made setting up frugal really EASY. Nice to see grub4dos back in the menu.
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#1108 Post by BarryK »

Yes, version 0.9.10 is released!

Blog announcement here:

http://bkhome.org/news/201812/easyos-ve ... eased.html
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#1109 Post by Sage »

Yes, just need a 32bit version for even older kit! Can we eliminate landfill?

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#1110 Post by rcrsn51 »

Sage wrote:Can we eliminate landfill?
Don't you have e-waste recycling where you live?

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#1111 Post by Sage »

Don't you have e-waste recycling where you live?
Yes, of course, but
a) why strip a working 15yr old PC in perfect working order when you've got Puppy?!
b) what do you plan to do with those parts? Can't sell them, they're obsolete. Melting them down uses more energy for little gain.
c) reuse, upcycling, repair, w.h.y. always best strategy.
d) don't encourage the snubbing of yesterday's goods. In a decade they'll be worth a fortune. Today, how much would you pay for a large horn, spring-driven wind-up gramophone and a handful of undamaged shellac records of Caruso...
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#1112 Post by rcrsn51 »

Sage wrote:In a decade they'll be worth a fortune.
In a decade, you'll be dead and they will end up in a landfill when someone cleans out your house.

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#1113 Post by Sage »

Surviving 150yr old Swansea porcelain is worth it's weight in gold because most folks dropped it or their stupid relatives didn't know it from Woolworth's tat. Need to appraise your relatives very carefully before departure!
Returning to the main topic, there's a market for old OSes + old guys who can write e.g.ALGOL/BASIC/Unix and for repair fellas who can fix old HW still running mission critical financial and security programs on equipment that should've been pensioned off when DOS1.0 came out but didn't.

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#1114 Post by rcrsn51 »

Sage wrote:Surviving 150yr old Swansea porcelain is worth it's weight in gold because most folks dropped it or their stupid relatives didn't know it from Woolworth's tat. Need to appraise your relatives very carefully before departure!
"To my brother Fred, I leave my entire collection of old computer crap. You can sell it on Ebay, or store it in your own basement.

It's worth a fortune, maybe more than the Swansea porcelain that I left to my grand-daughter Tiffany. Too bad that she won't ever use it. It's not dish-washer safe and she doesn't own a china cabinet to display it."

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#1115 Post by Sage »

Don't you have self-storage units over there? Label it all carefully, include instructions and a notice "Not to be opened until Christmas 2118".

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