FireFox requires PulseAudio for sound; how to install?
- Mike Walsh
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Yeah, also jumped ship. I use Palemoon and Light most often nowadays (yes I know they're mozilla forks but...). and finding myself in FF gives me the same queasy feeling that IE does
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Noticed this yesterday too, and reverted to ESR 52.2. How hard can it really be to consistently play audio through a browser? I'm pretty sure we had that feature in 1997...artsown wrote:Firefox 54 eliminates audio again in spite of apulse. Other things are
broken with 54 as well. I installed a recent ESR version of FF for the time
being.
Will this crap never end?
Art
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What distributions are you guys running?
Where have you got FF installed?
Do you use Flash? What add-ons?
What hardware?
FF and Seamonkey have been installed on my tahr for an eternity; my FF updated itself yesterday to 45.0; I don't have apulse installed and I use VLC and DeadBeef to play my local .mp3s (even as I type this) and listen to youtube offerings (just did). I have YouTube ALL HTML5 as an add-on. You guys are giving FF a bad rap! Got to be another reason/reasons for your failures.
Where have you got FF installed?
Do you use Flash? What add-ons?
What hardware?
FF and Seamonkey have been installed on my tahr for an eternity; my FF updated itself yesterday to 45.0; I don't have apulse installed and I use VLC and DeadBeef to play my local .mp3s (even as I type this) and listen to youtube offerings (just did). I have YouTube ALL HTML5 as an add-on. You guys are giving FF a bad rap! Got to be another reason/reasons for your failures.
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FF 52 ESR works fine (HTML5 audio). FF 54 does not. Same hardware, same (minimal) plugins, same location, no flash. I'm no newbie: I've been doing this stuff for decades.B.K. Johnson wrote:What distributions are you guys running?
Where have you got FF installed?
Do you use Flash? What add-ons?
What hardware?
FF and Seamonkey have been installed on my tahr for an eternity; my FF updated itself yesterday to 45.0; I don't have apulse installed and I use VLC and DeadBeef to play my local .mp3s (even as I type this) and listen to youtube offerings (just did). I have YouTube ALL HTML5 as an add-on. You guys are giving FF a bad rap! Got to be another reason/reasons for your failures.
It's not hugely surprising that 54 doesn't do what ESR 52 does, as even Google warns that there are ongoing changes to FF that render some media playback - even Google hangouts video - 'temporarily' unusable on FF for now.
I'm not giving FF a bad rap. FF 52 ESR is the most effective 32-bit Linux browser I've found for HTML5 media. But 54 is, at least in that respect, a big step backward.
Apulse is defective. I realized it first using skype 4.3 and then recent Firefox. My package pulseaudio-4.0-tahr606-i386.pet is working in slacko 700rc, thar6.0.6 and other recent puppies:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 288#947288
Tested working firefox 54.0.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 288#947288
Tested working firefox 54.0.
If you are going to try pulseaudio in 64 bit puppies then I have posted some experiments:artsown wrote:@watchdog
What about 64 bit versions of tahrpup and xenialpup?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 004#957004
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 004#951004
Hi folks,
I am currently using Waterfox64 instead of Firefox when pulseaudio is an issue. (eg Quirky Xerus 64)
The author is sticking with alsa. You may wish to give it a try.
Direct download link for pet follows:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... UVaSlptbnc
I am currently using Waterfox64 instead of Firefox when pulseaudio is an issue. (eg Quirky Xerus 64)
The author is sticking with alsa. You may wish to give it a try.
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Waterfox64_53.0.1|Waterfox64_53.0.1|53.0.1||Internet|177816K||Waterfox64_53.0.1.pet||Web Browser|ubuntu|xenial||
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... UVaSlptbnc
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@ watchdog
Success! In Xenialpup64, I followed your suggestion to install pulseaudio
via the PPM even though it claims it's already installed. I installed all
three of the "already installed" including pulseaudio_8.0
I use a Startup script:
pulseaudio --system
pulseaudio --start
and that's it! I checked and made sure that no pulseaudio --kill seems to
be required. Other browsers don't seem to be affected. Audio in music
and video players aren't affected.
Firefox 54 is now working well. I haven't yet tried to follow your
suggestions for tahrpup64.
I appreciate your help! Thanks.
Art
Success! In Xenialpup64, I followed your suggestion to install pulseaudio
via the PPM even though it claims it's already installed. I installed all
three of the "already installed" including pulseaudio_8.0
I use a Startup script:
pulseaudio --system
pulseaudio --start
and that's it! I checked and made sure that no pulseaudio --kill seems to
be required. Other browsers don't seem to be affected. Audio in music
and video players aren't affected.
Firefox 54 is now working well. I haven't yet tried to follow your
suggestions for tahrpup64.
I appreciate your help! Thanks.
Art
OscarTalks I have tried clicking on the link for http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.8-i686-wz.pet but the link isn't working
I believe there are new pets.......
Try this link.....
http://www.smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apul ... 686-wz.pet
Try this link.....
http://www.smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apul ... 686-wz.pet
- OscarTalks
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Thanks for posting the updated link, JamesC
I have edited the links in my posts on the first page of this thread.
However, people should note that there have been reports of problems with the latest Firefox version(s). See the previous page of this thread. I thought about removing the apulse packages.
The apulse program was only ever a work-around, so people should always experiment (taking precautions) to see what works and what doesn't.
My packages overwrite any pulse libraries so as not to require a wrapper script. This means that any other installed programs that use pulse will also be linking via apulse.
The alternative method is to place the apulse libs in another location and launch via a wrapper script, but this means that the script is then required. One idea is to unpack the apulse libs into the firefox main directory since the executable finds libraries that are there and (I believe) gives them priority.
With latest Firefox though, something else seems to be fundamentaly wrong so work is needed by the apulse author (or the Firefox devs).
Others have provided links to pulseaudio packages. I have some version 2.1 pets that might work in older Puppies. Firefox 54.0.1 with pulseaudio 2.1 worked for me in Wheezy but pulseaudio is a daemon so you have to make provisions to start it with "pulseaudio --start".
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
I have edited the links in my posts on the first page of this thread.
However, people should note that there have been reports of problems with the latest Firefox version(s). See the previous page of this thread. I thought about removing the apulse packages.
The apulse program was only ever a work-around, so people should always experiment (taking precautions) to see what works and what doesn't.
My packages overwrite any pulse libraries so as not to require a wrapper script. This means that any other installed programs that use pulse will also be linking via apulse.
The alternative method is to place the apulse libs in another location and launch via a wrapper script, but this means that the script is then required. One idea is to unpack the apulse libs into the firefox main directory since the executable finds libraries that are there and (I believe) gives them priority.
With latest Firefox though, something else seems to be fundamentaly wrong so work is needed by the apulse author (or the Firefox devs).
Others have provided links to pulseaudio packages. I have some version 2.1 pets that might work in older Puppies. Firefox 54.0.1 with pulseaudio 2.1 worked for me in Wheezy but pulseaudio is a daemon so you have to make provisions to start it with "pulseaudio --start".
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Oscar in England
Firefox-55.0.3 32bit .sfs for LxPupSc
Firefox-55.0.3 32bit .sfs for LxPupSc (may work on other "modern" Pups but untested....)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 886#963886
p.s. doesn't seem to be a general Firefox thread so posted here because the .sfs includes a sound fix for Puppy / alsa
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 886#963886
p.s. doesn't seem to be a general Firefox thread so posted here because the .sfs includes a sound fix for Puppy / alsa
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