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Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
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T-Biscuit

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Aug 2017, 21:34    Post subject: Re: Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
Subject description: how to make any puppy ISO boot from a pc with UEFI bios
 

jd7654 wrote:
I got one of those Bay Trail tablets. It does work with Puppy/Linux but takes some fiddling around. Mine is mostly dead now, bad battery. I'll probably replace it with a Cherry Trail that has normal 64-bit EFI so easier to work with Linux.


Ditto! I've seen a few dual core Celerons such as N3060 that make me itchy, but I will definitely look for a legacy mode option and mainstream 64-bit uefi, too. Or it will be returned same day.

With any luck maybe my current cheapo will expire prematurely, too. Laughing
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jd7654

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Aug 2017, 23:16    Post subject: Re: Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
Subject description: how to make any puppy ISO boot from a pc with UEFI bios
 

T-Biscuit wrote:
Ditto! I've seen a few dual core Celerons such as N3060 that make me itchy, but I will definitely look for a legacy mode option and mainstream 64-bit uefi, too. Or it will be returned same day.

With any luck maybe my current cheapo will expire prematurely, too. Laughing


I'd stay away from those N3050/N3060 chips myself, awful performance. Atom x5 Cherry Trail is way better. The quad core N3150/3160 are comparable, but those seem to be for Chromebooks.

FYI, Baytrail Linux boot should work as shown with just those files. I noticed the bootia32.efi file that was posted previously was different from the one I was using successfully. That one is 558KB and the one which works for me is 607KB.(came from here) The one in the original post is larger still, but can't check that one as my tablet is out for a while.
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T-Biscuit

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Aug 2017, 06:29    Post subject: Re: Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
Subject description: how to make any puppy ISO boot from a pc with UEFI bios
 

[quote="jd7654" I'd stay away from those N3050/N3060 chips myself, awful performance. Atom x5 Cherry Trail is way better. The quad core N3150/3160 are comparable, but those seem to be for Chromebooks.

FYI, Baytrail Linux boot should work as shown with just those files. I noticed the bootia32.efi file that was posted previously was different from the one I was using successfully. That one is 558KB and the one which works for me is 607KB.(came from here) The one in the original post is larger still, but can't check that one as my tablet is out for a while.[/quote]

I appreciate the tips on the chips ( Laughing ) and will give them weight when the opportunity comes. And I have downloaded the boota32.efi file that worked for you & will give it a try -- maybe tonight!
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s1wood

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2018, 08:16    Post subject: Grub problem on eufi boot  

I have finally managed to persuade my Aspire Switch 10 to recognise a USB boot of Xenialpup but I just get to a command line which says
>Grub 2.02 beta 2
Minimal BASH-like editing is supported<
Pressing tab as suggested brings up a long list of incomprehensible instructions.

Can anyone help me with this - in very simple terms, I am not good with the command line.

Susan
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T-Biscuit

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2018, 19:22    Post subject: a manual hack at the grub2 prompt
Subject description: things to try before giving up
 

I encountered this myself when getting one of Barry's Easy OS showing some willing. I've lost my notes but maybe can remember what I pieced together from googling.

You need to find out the exact name and location on drive for the vmlinux and initrd files. Assuming that the drive is hd0 (because it booted, almost), your need 4 grub commands.
Something like . . .

root (hd0,0)
vmlinux /vmlinuz.q
initrd /initrd.rd
boot

Hope this helps.

TB
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2018, 05:38    Post subject:  

@s1wood
What do you mean with "a USB boot of Xenialpup"?
Is xenialpup on a usb? How did you put it there?
Did you go into BIOS to choose usb boot?
Did you take 64bit version?
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s1wood

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2018, 12:42    Post subject:  

I downloaded xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso and installed it on a USB drive with UNetbootin.
I created an EFI folder and a Boot folder inside it and put bootia32.efi and bootx64.efi in that.
So far, so good, both options came up to be authenticated, I went for the 32 since I think this machine is 32-bit (not sure how to check since I can't currently get into it), and when I booted I got this grub screen.

The OS runs perfectly on my Thinkpad.

Susan
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 04:21    Post subject:  

Susan,
It looks too complicated to me: combining both UNetbootin and EFI boot folder.
This is easier: Use the linux command dd to put the iso on your usb. When you insert the usb be sure to know the letter for your usb. Let's say it is sdc. Then the dd command should be something like this:
Code:
dd if=/path_to_xenialpupiso/xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
An EFI folder is already prepared in the iso of xenialpup.
My guess is you have a 64bit cpu. The grub, included in the iso, should launch 32bit as well, but if not and to be sure, try the 64bit version as well.
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s1wood

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 13:24    Post subject:  

I've put the command in but sdg1 can't be opened: I get 'permission denied' even when using sudo. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 13:59    Post subject:  

s1wood wrote:
I've put the command in but sdg1 can't be opened: I get 'permission denied' even when using sudo. Any suggestions?
Do you mean that sdg1 is for your usb? Then you should use /dev/sdg in the dd command and not /dev/sdg1. Probably with sudo; I am not very familiar with the sudo-thing; there is no such thing in Puppy Smile
Code:
sudo dd if=/path_to_xenialpupiso/xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=1M
You should not try to enter /dev/sdg nor /dev/sdg1 btw.
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s1wood

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 14:52    Post subject:  

I've now loaded the ISO on the USB using the command line and it works on the Thinkpad but won't boot the Aspire at all - I have been through all the steps to authorise the .efi.

I was going to try again with the EFI/boot folder but the device is now coming up as read-only and won't let me put a new folder in.

Any advice, or should I try a different OS? I did want to use Puppy because this netbook has a tiny HDD.

Susan
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 17:47    Post subject:  

s1wood wrote:
I've now loaded the ISO on the USB using the command line and it works on the Thinkpad but won't boot the Aspire at all - I have been through all the steps to authorise the .efi.
What steps do you mean?
And where in the boot proces on the Aspire does it stop?
Just another thought: did you make a savefile or -folder on the Thinkpad on first shutdown and is it on the usb? If you use the usb with the savefile from the Thinkpad on the Aspire it may not boot.
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s1wood

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 17:54    Post subject: uefi boot using rEFInd  

I have cracked the problem! I re-installed on the USB with Unetbootin and then (having done some more research) downloaded rEFInd and transferred the folders to the USB. After going through the loading procedure again it booted first time.
Sadly after all that, it won't be of any use since I can't get the wireless to work. I shall have to try another OS.

Thanks for your assistance,

Susan
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 18:18    Post subject:  

Well done solving your booting problem. Very Happy It is a bit unusual to me to boot the usb with refind. Cool
For the wireless, use dmesg in console to find out what driver and version your kernel is looking for, for wifi. Then google the driver or go find it in the big repos of ubuntu and drop it in /lib/firmware and restart.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Apr 2018, 20:18    Post subject:  

Hi s1wood,

Combined foxpup's suggestion to see what was available from the "Big Distros" with your indication that you were going to try another OS and did some research.

The only thing I could find which might be useful was that someone running Ubuntu Precise Pangolin was able to compile the necessary driver after switching to the 3.16.2 Kernel. At least, that was my take from this thread, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249936&page=3

You might want to try an early (Beta) FatDog64-700, which used that kernel and may have the necessary driver already present. Alternatively, you might want to try FatDog64-702, which used the 3.18.7 Kernel "This is a conscious decision to ensure that all existing 3rd party kernel modules for 700 will continue to work in 701." http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=883107#883107.

Although firmware can be ported from one Puppy to another, drivers have to be compiled against the kernel of the operating system.

mikesLr

p.s. This thread may be of interest: https://gist.github.com/franga2000/2154d09f864894b8fe84

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