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Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
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Burn_IT


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Apr 2017, 07:07    Post subject:  

I only recently got hold of a 64 bit machine and haven't really had time to play with it under Puppy. I've got it apart at the moment trying to fit a better screen and somebody has sold me a duff part. The problem is which bit is duff without alternates to try.

Is Lenovo still playing silly buggers with restrictions?
I've used a different BIOS on mine to bypass them, but the machine is old and 32 bit only.

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Limbomusic


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PostPosted: Wed 24 May 2017, 13:37    Post subject: no probs
Subject description: with 64 bit pup
 

Just posting a follow-up on some of my... sort of silly responses to bugs in 64 bit versions.

Point is - I tried the 4.9.15 kernel in tahrpup64 6.0.6 and EVERYTHING just works. Love that kernel - (well, on my main gaming pc the icon for volume is gone, thats the only thing, workin ok on the Lenovo laptop)

BurnIT: Lenovo restrictions? I'm not aware of any, sorry Smile
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Installed a 250gb samsung 850 evo ssd on my main gaming pc a couple of days ago - after fresh install of win 10 (and booting puppy from usb) and holy %¤"#¤! - major difference indeed. Recommended! - but u guys know that already.

PC: http://helledussen.com/video/dill/feelin_good.html
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PostPosted: Wed 24 May 2017, 14:18    Post subject:  

They put restrictions in the BIOS that tries to stop you using none-authorised parts.
They added a "call home" utility that only worked under Windows and powered down the machine if it failed.
They also sold many new machines with malware built into the BIOS - you need to check up on this one. EDIT: SUPERFISH
Don't forget that Lenovo is Chinese nowadays.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 May 2017, 11:26    Post subject: huh
Subject description: superfish
 

Jaysis. Didnt know that - did a simple search:
https://support.lenovo.com/no/en/product_security/superfish

But according to that page they have seen the error of their ways and want everyone to get rid of it - WEIRD that they offered/included it in the first place.

ANyhoo - MY experience - well - I tried a recent puppy with some quite new laptops recently (i think it was a hp and a acer), and it didnt work very well, one woulndt even load the x desktop. But my 1 1/2 year lenovo ideapad 100 works really well with puppy.
(but they might work with the 4.9.15 kernel, have to try next time I get the chance)

Anyway - in my humble experience - Lenovo Laptops works quite well with puppies as opposed to other brands

EDIT 7 aug 2017:
All problems solved by using new kernel 4.9.13 ( or 30)

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PostPosted: Fri 26 May 2017, 12:50    Post subject:  

Don't get me wrong, I use a T43P most of the time and have overcome most of problems.
The only thing you need to look out for are update that they push through the MS update channel. It is alway worth while checking/delaying them before applying as they have been know to cause problems on several occasions.
I also stop any W10 and associated updates - mainly because I have no intention of upgrading this machine to W10 and also because it shouldn't even run Win 7 according to them (not the User groups though).
Puppy works fine and I tend to use it when I've finished work and are relaxing - though that is often late and I have another play machine for that sort of thing that supports more memory - which is this machine's biggest drawback.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 May 2017, 14:21    Post subject: win10
Subject description: updates
 

I get what u mean - like the new creators update for win10 has apparently caused many problems for users.
But,
I updated my lenovo idepad 100 to the creators update a week ago - and it works fine. I also last week - installed a new ssd drive to my main gaming pc - and I downloaded the most recent windows 10 ISO to install to it - and that already HAD the latest creators update / version- - so almost no updates afterwards - cause it was already "up to speed" - maybe I,ve been lucky Smile

I love windows 10 actually, (as long as u have ssd) but I love the puppies more Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 29 May 2017, 15:27    Post subject: drunk
Subject description: on wine yet again
 

Oh and if any puppy users would like to learn how to play the guitar, dont click on
http://helledussen.com/video/lessons.html

Cheers with wine - (no, yes, that other wine on a monday)
It is a beuatiful world with some sad people in it - and I am sad to say - I am one of them. But happy ! cheerio Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 29 May 2017, 15:30    Post subject: oh
Subject description: and
 

check out thius crazy ski stunt - pretty wild.
http://helledussen.com/video/ski/ski01.html
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun 2017, 17:03    Post subject: oh
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Have a great weekend pups Smile

https://youtu.be/W01OQ0iVeZ4
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T-Biscuit

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jun 2017, 10:22    Post subject: Re: Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
Subject description: how to make any puppy ISO boot from a pc with UEFI bios
 

Limbomusic wrote:
. . . Then just make a folder called "EFI" and a "boot" folder inside that. (EFI/boot) and then just put this file:
http://helledussen.com/linux/files/bootx64.efi inside it. . . .


Hello, Limbomusic. I am interested in trying out your contribution above. But, my cheap W10 2-in-1 netbook/tablet uses the nasty Baytrail Atom Z3735F soc. For reasons that seem to me silly or mean it has W10-32 and requires a 32 bit UEFI. Nor does it have a legacy boot option in its firmware. I was wondering if you might have a bootx32.efi handy.

Thanks for your very kind consideration.

PS. Sparky Linux boots but (1) is not Puppy, and (2) does not have the 4.9 kernel yet. I read somewhere that the drivers I need for this soc are in 4.9 or 4.10.

Travis "T-Biscuit" (because "Travis-T" just sounds wrong)
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jun 2017, 14:14    Post subject: hey
Subject description: yeah
 

Hey man Smile I did a google search Wink And altho I havent tried it - the file youre looking for is probably the bootia32.efi
I downloaded it and put it here:
http://helledussen.com/linux/files/UEFI_boot/bootia32.efi

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jun 2017, 18:41    Post subject: Re: hey
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Thank you, Limbomusic. I downloaded it and will let you know what happens. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 11:39    Post subject: huhey
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what happened ? Did it work?
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 18:30    Post subject: Re: huhey
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Limbomusic wrote:
what happened ? Did it work?


Not at all, Limbomusic. The brain-damaged firmware of this device sees the uefi flash drive, makes a brief token effort to boot, then gives up and goes to the windows boot.

It has some odd dialect of grub2 (or uefi script?) -- e.g., instead of "linux" it seems to expect "linuxefi" and likewise for "initrdefi". Ofen I simply don't know what it hated. I've had partial success with Android_x86 and Sparky Linux, which got to live boot bit would not install. Which was OK because I didn't want then anyhow.

In a couple of months it will be a 2 year wait. By the 3rd year I'll quit waiting and donate this baytrail + win-10 junk to someone and get a small laptop I can verify before I buy.

But, I appreciate your suggestions. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 21:27    Post subject: Re: Puppy Linux UEFI boot EASY
Subject description: how to make any puppy ISO boot from a pc with UEFI bios
 

T-Biscuit wrote:
... But, my cheap W10 2-in-1 netbook/tablet uses the nasty Baytrail Atom Z3735F soc. For reasons that seem to me silly or mean it has W10-32 and requires a 32 bit UEFI. Nor does it have a legacy boot option in its firmware....


I got one of those Bay Trail tablets. It does work with Puppy/Linux but takes some fiddling around. Mine is mostly dead now, bad battery. I'll probably replace it with a Cherry Trail that has normal 64-bit EFI so easier to work with Linux.
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