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fredx181

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 16:14    Post subject:  XenialDog 64-bit (Ubuntu 'Xenial Xerus' LTS, 64-bit)
Subject description: XenialDog_64bit-openbox_jwm-2017-01-22-firmware-all.iso
 

XenialDog 64-bit (Ubuntu 16.04 'Xenial Xerus' LTS, 64-bit)
(Ubuntu minimal "live")

There were several requests for a XenialDog64, so here it is now!

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EDIT 2017-01-22: New ISO uploaded, see also here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=940485#940485
Download links below updated to 2017-01-22 version
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See for planned fixes and changes on next iso release in second post.

Very similar to DebianDog, but with the difference that it's Ubuntu based

Full access to Ubuntu repositories by using apt-get (from terminal) or from Synaptic Package Manager (GUI)

Openbox is the main window-manager, the GUI setup is very much like DebianDog64

Differences compared to DebianDog:
- Different applications, some are not present and some others added.
- Choices of window-manager are: Openbox and Jwm , see for specifications below.

Login details:
root with password root (default automatic login)
puppy with password puppy

Specifications:
Built from an absolute minimal Ubuntu full install (using mini.iso).
Kernel: 4.4.0-59-generic
Choice of Boot Methods: porteus-boot and casper-boot ,see options at the XenialDog Wiki
Default WM - OpenBox (and option for Jwm, see below)
(with different choice of Desktop modes: tint2 icon-panel, cairo-dock or rox-pinboard icons, to choose, run 'Desktop Manager' from Menu)
(replaced wbar (from previous (32-bit) version) with a minimal cairo-dock
Panel: Tint2 bottom panel or cairo-dock.
Default File Manager - pcmanfm with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Firefox.
Menu provided by Obmenu-generator (perl script)

Added: Quick-remaster (thanks to rufwoof for the concept) and Upgrade-kernel tools

Edit: Conky display of RAM usage is according to 'free', not to Htop as it was on previous (32bit) version

Option to switch to JWM (Menu > System > Start Jwm)

Full LZ4 squashfs support (compression and loading modules)

The Iso size became quite big mainly because:
- Big size of Ubuntu kernel 4.4.0-59-generic (in /lib/modules)
- Package 'linux-firmware' installed (has most firmware)
- Python and Perl installed

Download: Edit: updated to version 2017-01-22
Iso: XenialDog_64bit-openbox_jwm-2017-01-22-firmware-all.iso Size: 310MB
Md5sum: XenialDog_64bit-openbox_jwm-2017-01-22-firmware-all.md5

DEVX: 61-DEVX-XenialDog64-2017-01-18.squashfs
Locales: 99-locales-XenialDog64-2017-01-18.squashfs

XenialDog custom packages repository: Here

Special thanks to Toni (saintless), William (mcewanw), Terry (sunburnt), The Flying Cat and all who helped by giving feedback on the DebianDog and Mintpup threads.

Fred

Screenshot:

Openbox with cairo-dock:

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 16:15    Post subject:  

*** Changes and fixes from 2017-01-22 on ***

1.) Bug fix and changed GUI in "Desktop Manager" (desktop mode switcher (Openbox)
In case a pcmanfm window opened, switching to another desktop mode could lead to problems (e.g. overlapping modes), To fix, install from terminal :
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install xd-desktop-manager

Or install via Synaptic, or install this .deb
https://debiandog.github.io/xenialdog/Packages64/Included/xd-desktop-manager_1.0.0_all.deb
2.) There were reports from mikeslr and zagreb999 about included wifimanager 'wifibox' not connecting (specially when WEP is used)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=941076#941076
When having similar problems, install frisbee:
Code:
apt-get install frisbee

Or install from frisbee .deb here:
https://debiandog.github.io/xenialdog/Packages64/Included/frisbee_1.2-20160920_amd64.deb
(or install any other network-manager, e.g. 'wicd-gtk' )
3.) Bug fix for RemasterDog (script to remaster) (copy progress bar didn't show).
To fix, install remaster-scripts version 1.0.2:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install remaster-scripts   # will install version 1.0.2

4.) Bugfix for when using encrypted savefile:
If XenialDog64 is frugally installed and using "porteus-boot":
https://github.com/DebianDog/xenialdog/wiki/Porteus-boot
Replace initrd1.xz in the "casper" folder with the one from Here and encrypted savefile should work.

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 16:24    Post subject:  

Wow, you are getting to be a 'master' of these debian dogs. Will download tonight and get it set up tomorrow.......I must admit I'm kind of hesitant, though. I do not want to like it more than my DD32 Wink Thanks, Fred! Everyone should try these DDs of yours, both 32 & 64..


[Correction: just your comment below, Fred, then re-read the description closely..It's Ubuntu-mini, and here I was thinking it was DD64. Sorry about that. Will still give it a try]

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 17:48    Post subject:  

like the design, my eye are still messed with SlacQ odd orange/peach .. need a change.
Does multisession to DVD work in this WolfQ was fixed so I heard, did you built it with it?
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 18:21    Post subject:  

TeX Dog wrote:
Does multisession to DVD work in this WolfQ was fixed so I heard, did you built it with it?


No idea what you mean with 'WolfQ', but no, sorry. multisession to DVD is not supported.

This is not a puppy, (not woof built, if you mean that) it's pure (mini) Ubuntu in fact, with some stuff added.

Fred

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 18:28    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Will download tonight and get it set up tomorrow.......I must admit I'm kind of hesitant, though. I do not want to like it more than my DD32 Wink Thanks, Fred! Everyone should try these DDs of yours, both 32 & 64..


Thanks Belham and you're welcome!
It's very different from DD32, no xfce desktop, very similar to the earlier 32-bit Xenialdog (Openbox, tint2 and choice to use cairo-dock)

Fred

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 19:39    Post subject:  

Whoops..

Forgot to include the very important utility 'create savefile'
Will re-upload ISO within half an hour.

Edit: Done, re-uploaded , please download again, sorry Embarassed
Edit 2017-01-22 : Download links updated to newer version 2017-01-22
Iso: XenialDog_64bit-openbox_jwm-2017-01-22-firmware-all.iso Size: 310MB
Md5sum: XenialDog_64bit-openbox_jwm-2017-01-22-firmware-all.md5

Fred

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 20:00    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Whoops..

Forgot to include the very important utility 'create savefile'
Will re-upload ISO within half an hour.

Fred



Are you kidding?! I stayed up (it's nearing 1:00am) just to play with this, have been setting things up inside it for the past hour, and now you're telling me there's no way to save all my work/settings on exit (I booted Porteus Save)? Fred, Fred, FRED..FREDDDDIE MERCURY!!!!!!!!! Crying or Very sad

Lol, oh well, serves me right for staying up so late. I should have just went to bed. Below is the pic I took. It booted well (I did porteus save on exit). Of the few things I did get to try, when I took this pic, I must note that in right-clicking to "Open With..." and choose 'mtpaint', the dialog box brought back after clicking "Open With..." was blank, and said that no programs at all are installed in the OS. What?? Thus I couldn't choose anything and had to open mtpaint by its own icon, then head to the pic in ~root.

Anyway, will kiss this setup that I worked soooooooooo hard on, just kiss it all goodbye and try again tomorrow evening with the new ISO download. No worries, Fred, we all make mistakes.....but forgetting the doggone SAVEFILE utility...lol.....you're killing me here Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 20:13    Post subject:  

P.S.

Fred, it (the porteus boot save on exit) sure acted like it saved to the external USB hard drive? Did it? It looked like 20MB got saved, which is about right. Too bleary-eyed right now, will fire it all back up tomorrow and check. Am hoping that since I used porteus boot save on exit that it is separate from the savefile utility Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2017, 20:18    Post subject:  

belham wrote:
but forgetting the doggone SAVEFILE utility...lol.....you're killing me here Laughing Laughing


Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Smile
My apologies , the only (yes, very, very weak Smile ) excuse I have is that I never use save file (always folder or remaster).

Re-uploaded ISO, see edit in my previous post.

Have fun!

Edit:
belham2 wrote:
Fred, it (the porteus boot save on exit) sure acted like it saved to the external USB hard drive? Did it? It looked like 20MB got saved, which is about right. Too bleary-eyed right now, will fire it all back up tomorrow and check. Am hoping that since I used porteus boot save on exit that it is separate from the savefile utility Wink


Maybe you used save to folder, no save-file creation utility is required for that to work well.

Quote:
I must note that in right-clicking to "Open With..." and choose 'mtpaint', the dialog box brought back after clicking "Open With..." was blank, and said that no programs at all are installed in the OS. What?? Thus I couldn't choose anything and had to open mtpaint by its own icon, then head to the pic in ~root.


Yes I noticed that (nothing to choose from applications) , don't know yet how to solve that, you can type a command though to open with (and set as default) from the tab 'Custom command line'

Edit2:
Ah, well the fix is very simple, move lxde-applications.menu to /etc/xdg/menus (for some experiment I took it out and placed in /etc/xdg), so from terminal:
Code:
mv /etc/xdg/lxde-applications.menu /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu

So another mistake of mine can be added to the list, hope it doesn't grow more Confused Wink
I added 'Beta' to the first post subject, because I think there should be done some more testing.

Fred

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2017, 01:53    Post subject: Re: XenialDog 64-bit Beta (Ubuntu 'Xenial Xerus' LTS, 64-bit)
Subject description: XenialDog_64bit-openbox_jwm-2017-01-18-firmware-all.iso
 

fredx181 wrote:

There were several requests for a XenialDog64, so here it is now!

Beta version for now, please test.
In time I'll make *final* release.


And that includes me, Fred! (I'm just popping in cos saw your long-awaited XenialDog 64bit release announcement. I like Ubuntu-system because I find that many apps my family use are more readily immediately available in binaries for Ubuntu systems than for other Linux's.

Some AV apps prefer expect pulse-audio, so I prefer to include that (and I tend to find apulse solutions problematic/unstable). So would be good if you could add a quick note to remind me the best way to add pulseaudio so it is there on boot.

Glad you are keeping up the good work and have a number of new users keeping an active interest in the project(s).

Belated Happy New Year by the way!

William

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2017, 04:44    Post subject: pulseaudio  

mcewanw regards,

if you wish pulseaudio,
do this

install kde-baseapps, after that
pulseaudio

in terminal
pulseaudio --start

on my computer hp pavilion 8 gb ram
this version of xenialdog 64

can not work properly
quick remaster... shutdown, reboot
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2017, 05:13    Post subject: pulseaudio activated in euclid.iso  

pulseaudio activated


http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109300&sid=c5f7f068be44a2f17a6d23153ec2dcb3
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2017, 09:33    Post subject:  

Hey William, good to see you!

XenialDog64 probably needs some more polishing, feedback appreciated!

Quote:
Some AV apps prefer expect pulse-audio, so I prefer to include that (and I tend to find apulse solutions problematic/unstable). So would be good if you could add a quick note to remind me the best way to add pulseaudio so it is there on boot.


As zagreb wrote, "pulseaudio --start" is the way to go, you can add simple shell script in ~/Startup
(but to install kde-baseapps seems useless to me, it will install a lot of packages not related to pulseaudio )
Another way (autostart for all users):
Install also obsession (it will make *.desktop files work in /etc/xdg/autostart):
Code:
apt-get install pulseaudio obsession

(you might want to take a look at the 'suggested packages' e.g. install pavucontrol or more)
Then edit /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop and change the 'Exec=...' line to:
Code:
Exec=pulseaudio --start

Alsamixer using pulse:
Code:
alsamixer -D pulse


To make pulseaudio start at boot using a systemd service didn't work for me (tried several possible solutions from the web)

Happy New Year to you also!

Fred

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2017, 09:35    Post subject:  

Hi zagreb,

Quote:
on my computer hp pavilion 8 gb ram
this version of xenialdog 64

can not work properly
quick remaster... shutdown, reboot


What didn't work then? Details please!

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