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#46 Post by Doglover »

@smokey01

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/broken ... 6_64-1.txz

Have not tried Chromecast.

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#47 Post by drunkjedi »

jamesbond wrote:You can see the memory used when you run "free" - it's the last column (it will always be bigger than your basesfs (in this case, it will be larger than 1.2G) because in addition to the basesfs, it will contain actual cached files).
Yes I did run free too, and it's numbers confused me.
It showed something around 1.6Gb. I will check later again.

Thanks.

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#48 Post by smokey01 »

Doglover wrote:@smokey01

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/broken ... 6_64-1.txz

Have not tried Chromecast.
Thanks, I will report back on chromecast.

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#49 Post by smokey01 »

Apparently chromecast for VLC is only available in the windows version ATM.

http://www.howtogeek.com/269272/how-to- ... hromecast/

Looks like us Linux dudes will have to wait a little longer Grrr.

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#50 Post by mavrothal »

Congratulations on a solid release!
I updated from 710b smoothly so I did not need to repeat the macbook-specific mods.
All works as expected.
One little thing is that MS DOC files appear as compressed archives and the archiving app is trying to handle them.
That is not nice after M$ joined linux foundation and became a major sponsor... :P

Other than that could handle everything in the macbook. If only the linux kernel can do a bit better job with power consumption on the mac.
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#51 Post by SFR »

Buddy wrote:So what strikes me is that this never happen before in my usage of fatdog. And I have been using the last 5 releases as my main OS be it a beta or not. I was always able to upload files from spot and not just from /spot/downloads.
It's hard to tell why doesn't it behave like before anymore.
AFAIK nothing related has changed between Beta and Final.
In order to upload anything from /root/spot, a file in question must have permissions set to allow "World" group read it, unless its ownership is 'spot:spot'.
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mavrothal wrote:One little thing is that MS DOC files appear as compressed archives and the archiving app is trying to handle them.
Hmm, can't reproduce it.
What's the MIME type of one of these files?

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# file Untitled\ 1.doc
Untitled 1.doc: Composite Document File V2 Document, Little Endian, Os: Windows, Version 1.0, Code page: -535, Revision Number: 1, Total Editing Time: 00:18, Create Time/Date: Fri Dec  9 15:19:51 2016, Last Saved Time/Date: Fri Dec  9 15:20:09 2016
# 
# file -i Untitled\ 1.doc 
Untitled 1.doc: application/msword; charset=binary
# 
# rox -m Untitled\ 1.doc
application/msword
#
# ls -l /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/MIME-types/application_msword 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Nov 29 04:39 /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/MIME-types/application_msword -> /usr/local/bin/defaultwordprocessor
#
# grep msword /usr/share/applications/defaults.list 
application/msword=defaultwordprocessor.desktop; defaultwordprocessor.desktop; 
# 
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#52 Post by Gobbi »

jamesbond wrote:@gobbi - check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

You've got this random eth numbers probably because eth0 has already been assigned to the MAC address of the machine on which you did your remaster.

There are possible solutions:
a) remove this file before you complete the remaster. ...
Thank you jamesbond :!:
Removing that file made the wired interface become eth0 again , after the remaster .

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#53 Post by mavrothal »

SFR wrote: Hmm, can't reproduce it.
What's the MIME type of one of these files?

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# file 2016.doc
2016.doc: Microsoft Word 2007+
# file -i 2016.doc
2016.doc: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document; charset=binary
# rox -m 2016.doc 
application/zip
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#54 Post by SFR »

mavrothal wrote:

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2016.doc: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document; charset=binary
Ok, I think know what's going on.
The problem is this file should have .docx extension.
If it has .doc extension, it's seen as archive, because MS OpenXML files (unlike real '.doc' files) are zip archives and since the content of such a file doesn't fit the defined match values for 'application/msword', it apparently falls back to 'application/zip'.

TL;DR just change the extension to .docx. ;)

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#55 Post by quirkian2new »

yes, extrasfs on my sda1 loaded successfully.
my menu entry is :

title BOOT FD710__FINAL
kernel (hd0,0)/fatdog/fd710/vmlinuz extrasfs=device:sda1:/fatdog/sfs_dir/test.sfs
initrd (hd0,0)/fatdog/fd710/initrd

HAHA, thanks for all the dev team for such great distro. With this new feature of auto-loading extrasfs at boot time,
i think i will never have to do re-master again !

wish you merry Linx'mas & happy new year.
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#56 Post by mavrothal »

SFR wrote: The problem is this file should have .docx extension.
If it has .doc extension, it's seen as archive, because MS OpenXML files (unlike real '.doc' files) are zip archives and since the content of such a file doesn't fit the defined match values for 'application/msword', it apparently falls back to 'application/zip'.

TL;DR just change the extension to .docx. ;)
They are not docx files. They are doc files generated by recent WORD so they can be compatible with some production machines that can not handle docx.

I could change the extension on the USB back and forth depending on the machine, but I thought would be better if FD could handle this (BTW Puppies and other Linuxes have no trouble with these files)
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#57 Post by SFR »

I checked in Tahr and it's the other way around (see screenshot), that's why it works there.

Anyway, after some tinkering I think I found a workaround.
First, delete (or rename to *.bak) /usr/share/mime/packages/libreoffice.xml, then:

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update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
and refresh the dir where the *.doc is.

Looks like this file somehow interferes with the way ROX acquires MIME type of a given file.
See if it works for you as well.

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#58 Post by mavrothal »

SFR wrote:Anyway, after some tinkering I think I found a workaround.
First, delete (or rename to *.bak) /usr/share/mime/packages/libreoffice.xml, then:

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update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
and refresh the dir where the *.doc is.

Looks like this file somehow interferes with the way ROX acquires MIME type of a given file.
See if it works for you as well.
Yes, this works.
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#59 Post by eowens2 »

I do not see Thunderbird listed in the 710-Final Gslapt package list.

Is it available for Fatdog64 710-Final?

If I remember correctly someone discussed using it on an earlier version of Fatdog64.

Any help finding a recent Thunderbird that would run on Fatdog64_710-Final would be appreciated.

Thank you.

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#60 Post by smokey01 »

@eowens2

The easiest way is to go to the web site and click on Free Download.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

Extract the file thunderbird-45.5.1.tar.bz2 somewhere outside of your savefile if you use one. If you use a save directory with plenty of space, extract it there.

Inside the thunderbird directory that has just been created, drag and drop the thunderbird binary to your desktop.

If you want to integrate it into your menu system, create a desktop file and a launcher script.

Cheers

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#61 Post by mavrothal »

A couple of little things trying to runFD710 from a disk image in a VM (with an eventual savefolder in an ext2 virtual HD). Ignore if you think is setup specific.
They are little annoyances that may give the impression of an unpolished system if true.

First, time wizard comes up only after reboot if you have generated a savefolder/file.
Changes in screen resolution do not survive X-restart.
After reboot previously set change in screen resolution (with zafry and/or display settings) needs an X-restart to take effect.
Time zone change needs an X-restart to take effect.
In contrast changes in the global font size, does not prompt for an X-restart.
Keyboard wizard indicates the current layout on top but highlights the first list entry. So OK'ing it changes your layout to Afghani. And BTW there is still no UI to add a keyboard layout.
On first shutdown savefile tool does not check for available space. It also appear to prioritise and default alphabetically (in my case prompts for save in the virtual floppy).

I think by now FD is a very robust system and some polishing (assuming the above are indeed as such) may make it more appealing for the novices.
But then again I like Macs... :P
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#62 Post by Sage »

I do not see Thunderbird listed
Folks considering Thunderbird would be better advised to use Claws, an offshoot of the old (Puppy) favourite Sylpheed. Claws is the full McCoy with all the optional bells & whistles any pro could wish, as well.

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#63 Post by Lobster »

Sage wrote:
I do not see Thunderbird listed
Folks considering Thunderbird would be better advised to use Claws, an offshoot of the old (Puppy) favourite Sylpheed.
I like Claws (I have two) and the Santa Clause is one of my favourite religious contracts . . .

Still using Fatdog64 but from DVD - looking at the install to HD info it seemed too complex - it would be going on a separate HD, I would have to find the ubuntu boot file and generally mess about for hours of complex tinkering. That is probably true of any Puppy/derivative in such a situation . . . However I don't have the inclination. :roll:

Also because needing to access email on a variety of devices - gmail will have to do. Despite being a cloud service servicing Google and partners in their efforts to automatically sieve and moneterise my emails.

I must say the difference in speed between Ubuntu and Fatdog is VERY noticeable and subjectively feels 3 or 4 times faster.

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#64 Post by quirkian2new »

as i mentioned in my last post on the previous page about loading extrasfs during boot up,
i observed that the whole of my sda1(from where the extrasfs is loaded ) became read-only.

If anyone want their valuable system/data not be spoiled by their kids, they can partition their
single hardisk into 2 partitions, sda1 storing their valuable data/system while leaving the remaining
partition for their kids. By booting and loading extrasfs from sda1, they make sda1 read-only
and thus avoid spoiling by the kids. I like this feature and idea.

Edit : BTW if my extrasfs loaded from sda5, i assume sda5 will become read-only. Is my assumption correct ? many thanks
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#65 Post by out_of_whack »

Congratulation and Thanks to the FD team. I haven' t done much testing yet, but so far I like it a lot. Frugal install boots up pretty fast.

I have a question though. Like mentioned above I did a frugal install on the hd and created a savefile. Now I would like to be able to shutdown / reboot with the option of saving or not saving the session.

After changing the save ram time interval to 0 in the event manager, I do not get a save icon on my desktop as indicated in the built-in help, that pops up when I hover my mouse over the entry field. I also noticed my session gets saved.

Maybe this is a feature that only worked in older FDs? Or do I have to add a special entry to the boot params?

Thanks in advance

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