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johnywhy
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#436 Post by johnywhy »

Hi mikeslr!
(mike sailor?)
mikeslr wrote:Start with either BionicDog, or --perhaps better considering the later step--stretchdog
i avoided bionic cuz it's relatively huge, and avoided Stretch cuz it's called "Preview" on git. But ok, i'm downloading bionic and stretch now. I just finished trying out XenialDog, MintDog, Jessie, trinitydog, and MintPup-Trusty. I'll post my impressions to a separate thread shortly (hint, trinity is the only one i like).
Don't worry about the Window Manager for the moment.
window manager is on my short list. Before i make a time investment, I have to know a distro supports xfce (or now, Trinity) without much/any implementation (i don't mean customizing, that's fine. I just mean effort to make it work at all).
unique tools built into the DebianDogs, including those relating to remastering. Saintless was very conscientious about providing solid documentation, and fred has continued to do so.
well that's awesome, and thank you saintless! Tho' his documentation here is confusing, cuz he says to use root to give boot as puppy-user.... :?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 601#850601
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 41#1003641
....9 pages on rcrsn51's starter kit thread is packed full of useful information.
grrp... hrm... um... did you say 9 pages? See note above about "without much/any implementation" :D Mikeslr, i understand you're trying to get me to be a puppy dev, but not likely. Apologies to everyone that i simply want to be a user (and puppy proselytizer :)
there appears to be very little advantage in an Ubuntu based operating system over a debian
i'm not partial, and we can add slack to teh list.
unlike you using apt isn't something to which I've grown accustomed.
me neither, actually. I have used it a bunch no probs, but, when i share my final result with non-geek friends, i want them to have a GUI package manager, not command-line.

THX!
[b]Now[/b]: X-Tahr 2.0! StretchDog! DevuanDog!
[b]Tops[/b]: TarhNOP Vlina-R2 Racy
[b]Used[/b]: Puppeee Precise Lucid Wary Tahrpup Quirky Slacko MacPup Saluki Puppy Studio LxPupTarh Lina-Lite Lina
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#437 Post by fredx181 »

Hi johnywhy,
and avoided Stretch cuz it's called "Preview" on git.
I think what you saw was 'Stretch' on the DebianDog organization.
Back then it was a preview, but later named 'StretchDog', see:
https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz ... chdog.html
Or:
https://github.com/fredx181/StretchDog

There's a Stretch starter kit I made with full XFCE (no Openbox) here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 600#994600
(but it's minimal, need to install e.g. browser, mediaplayer yourself)

Or, as mikeslr already said, build with XFCE option using the mklive-stretch script, then you can add whatever you want.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 752#962752
and thank you saintless! Tho' his documentation here is confusing, cuz he says to use root to give boot as puppy-user....
Can't see why it's confusing, what saintless means is to change "-f root" to "-f puppy" on that line in /etc/inittab

Have fun with all the testing !

Fred

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#438 Post by johnywhy »

many thx, Fred. Wow! StretchDog is now officially my favorite linux! It's the smallest, lightest xfce "real" linux i've seen. Very well put together!

xtahr is my favorite "unreal" xfce linux. Tahr idles about half the RAM of Stretch.

now if we could just make StretchDog as light on RAM as xtarh :)
see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 41#1003741

i may try to roll my own stretch :o
[b]Now[/b]: X-Tahr 2.0! StretchDog! DevuanDog!
[b]Tops[/b]: TarhNOP Vlina-R2 Racy
[b]Used[/b]: Puppeee Precise Lucid Wary Tahrpup Quirky Slacko MacPup Saluki Puppy Studio LxPupTarh Lina-Lite Lina
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zagreb999
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Liquorix kernel for dd?

#439 Post by zagreb999 »


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Re: Liquorix kernel for dd?

#440 Post by fredx181 »

zagreb999 wrote:Liquorix kernel for dd?

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=43202
Liquorix kernel does not have aufs included, so cannot be used with the porteus-boot style.

Fred

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updated sources.list for jessie

#441 Post by sindi »

What should sources.list include so that I can update jessie?
kazza... files are listed but no longer exist.

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Re: updated sources.list for jessie

#442 Post by fredx181 »

sindi wrote:What should sources.list include so that I can update jessie?
kazza... files are listed but no longer exist.
Hi sindi, this thread is for Openbox version, it doesn't have the kazza line in sources.list.

You are talking about JWM - Jessie version (I saw also in Wheezy thread).
Yeah, it's not maintained anymore by saintless.
Looks like there are too many issues to sort out, I can't help, sorry.

Fred

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#443 Post by RickGT351 »

Is there the equivalent of a devx package available? I've had to start playing with Python to install ProtonVPN-cli and one thing leads to another as seems to be the case in Linux.
Here's why I need it

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root@jessie64:~/Python-3.6.9# ./configure --enable-optimizations --enable-shared --with-ensurepip=install
checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking for python3.6... no
checking for python3... python3
checking for --enable-universalsdk... no
checking for --with-universal-archs... no
checking MACHDEP... linux
checking for --without-gcc... no
checking for --with-icc... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/root/Python-3.6.9':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details
root@jessie64:~/Python-3.6.9# sudo apt-get install foxireader
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done

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#444 Post by fredx181 »

Hi RickGT351,

Yes, download DEVX: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ljo ... ashfs?dl=1
(BTW, there's dedicated thread for Debiandog jessie 64-bit, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101931, with link to this DEVX at the bottom of first post)

Fred

zagreb999
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#445 Post by zagreb999 »

regards

i installed again ddog,
but i can not find a way to
work tumbler-
to see images in thunar!

missing libraries?

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