Studio 13.37 2.4 is out!

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Studio 13.37 2.4 is out!

#1 Post by l0wt3ch »

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New in 2.4:

The iso is now a multikernel isohybrid, 32 and 64 bit, with UEFI support. Studio 13.37 now works on Intel-based Macs!

Updated kernel versions to 4.4.3-rt9.

Updated ALSA libraries, updated versions of Ardour, Non DAW, and MuSE. Added nano and xkill.

Added pWidgets (thanks Zigbert et al). Inspirational music quotes right on the desktop!

Corrected a bug where Chrome wouldn't run because Firefox was installed. Firefox is intentionally frozen at version 34, doesn't complain about Flash, can't upgrade itself, and is heavily customized. Pretty nice.

Added lightweight ocd-Dock, activate it using the included "Dock Selector" tool. (Thanks ProgRob!)

Openbox updated to 3.6.1, pretty flashy with fun effects.

Special thanks to all the people who tried to help me solve my problem related to EFI and graphics drivers - jamesbond, 01micko, Ted Dog, Karl Godt, cthisbear, puppyluvr, and Flash. Much appreciated!

And thanks to jamesbond and kirk for implementing EFI and rEFInd in FatDog.

Watch the new video, or check out my slightly-revamped website!

Updates available for free for existing users.

gcmartin

x86 class Hybrid ISO that will boot 64bit PCs or 32bit ones

#2 Post by gcmartin »

Hello @l0wt3ch

There are, now, 2 PUPs which other Puppy developers can review which the ISO allows its users to boot into "either" 32bit mode or 64bit mode. Namely
  1. this ISO, Studio 2.4
  2. @StemSee's ISO, EmSee
Thanks should go out to each of you for providing references developers can use as Puppy Linux moves into its future.

Now, a user can download a single ISO which will work on all of one's home PCs to take advantage of the benefits their platform(s) offer.

Thanks for this! :idea:
Edit: fix mis-typing
Last edited by gcmartin on Tue 15 Mar 2016, 07:48, edited 1 time in total.

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#3 Post by Ted Dog »

They can download for a price :lol: and it makes Fatdog64 anorectic by comparison. As the mac tester, not sure if I passed along that never could get the sound working. The 32/64 uefi bug did not happen in macs so would have liked to use his setup to rebuilt a more flexible grub4UEFI mini project.

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Re: x86 class Hybrid ISO that will boot 64bit PCs or 32bit ones

#4 Post by l0wt3ch »

gcmartin wrote:...ISO allows its users to boot into "either" 32bit mode or 64bit mode. Namely
  1. this ISO, Studio 2.4
  2. @StemSee's ISO, EmSee
StemSee did it first, and it was a brilliant idea. I just had to steal it. :lol:

You're right, though. Having all the versions in one iso is pretty nice.

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#5 Post by ciento »

Congratualtions! And once again, even a delightful choice of wallpaper,
on top of surprising solutions to market forces gone dark.

Great to see puppy devs overcoming the flailing hardware/software
contortions of mega corporations in cahoots with shadowy gubbamints...

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#6 Post by Ted Dog »

CHECK YOUR PM came across security issue with ISO, its an easy fix however others should not use this release, as a beta tester sorry I missed it before, but sound does work, so good and bad news..

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#7 Post by l0wt3ch »

In case you guys didn't know, ciento was the one who encouraged me to make my distro a commercial product in the first place! He's also given me lots of valuable support over the years.

Thanks ciento!

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#8 Post by l0wt3ch »

So check this out:

After Ted Dog wrote the above post telling me to check my PM's, I checked and there was a WARNING IN ALL CAPS telling me to retract the iso immediately because, he said, I had inadvertently included all of my login information and passwords!

Naturally, I was like WHAT?!? But he confirmed it by sending a PM to himself FROM MY ACCOUNT. I could see it in my sent folder.

I dropped everything I was doing and started changing my passwords for the whole Internet. Because Ted Dog wasn't the only person who had got a copy of the beta; for example I also sent it to customers who were having issues with older versions. And I could tell by the download stats that they had shared it with a ton of people. So anyone could log in to my government accounts, PayPal, websites, email, get my credit card info... the sky was the limit!

So there was no time to lose. I mean, I didn't even have time to go to the bathroom. I had to change hundreds of passwords. Some of them I had to chat with my web hosting company to figure out how to change them. It was a big job!

Meanwhile, Puppyluvr was asking me for a copy of the iso, and because Russoodle's server is down, I was relying on Mega.nz to host it and forgot that for large files they make you sign up for an account. So I logged into my neglected Dropbox account, changed my password, and started uploading 2.4.

And to my surprise, there was the beta iso in my Dropbox! I thought I had deleted all copies of it, but here it was. Probably how I got it into Ted Dog's hands in the first place. I downloaded it and copied it to usb.

So now Ted Dog's sort of blackmailing me for a free copy of 2.4 to keep the password leak secret. He's joking, telling me I don't PM anyone very often by the looks of it. I'm like, er, could you please delete all copies of the beta? Meanwhile, I'm frantically changing all my passwords, and he's watching baseball.

I booted the usb stick on my other laptop, checked Saved Passwords in Firefox preferences, and SIGHED A HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF. There was only one password saved - the one for this forum! Not sure how it got into the beta, but the crisis was over. I'd been changing all my passwords for nothing.

Of course, the 2.4 release iso didn't have any saved password info, so that was fine. And Ted Dog says he got sound working on his Mac with the beta, so that's a plus.

But man! That was crazy.

TLDR: Everything is cool. Sound works on the Mac.

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#9 Post by ciento »

That was even scary just reading about it! :shock:
Still, new passwords are good for security on a regular basis.
Hopefully the blackmailer won't bill you for inspiring that :wink:

Has spring sprung yet? Or is it still commuting Iditarod style?
Looks like winter was nicely productive 8)
...skiers here are singing 'let it snow, let it snow, let it snowwww...'
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#10 Post by Puppyt »

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#11 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Testing the 32 and 64 bit versions via my tester. ( my 9 yr old son.)
Pried him off Debiandog!
BTW. My first Puplet I forgot to delete personal stuff too.
I got an email, from me (sic), pointing it out!
Lucky we have an honest group here!
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#12 Post by Ted Dog »

That sort of exchanges happen behind the public view, can't share any of them, since most would freak out the normal people who can't see the true risks in some situations.
Glad he acted fast! some do not and really freak-out when people they do not know 'protect them' in ways they would never read about here or on line. :roll:
So far due to slow moving response to security removed 2 companies from internet, took over a country level root domain and ended up in a humorous friendly cross fire for a second country governments administration and thousands of hackerbots. And thats AFTER I was employed in security :P I am retired now and have been for while.

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#13 Post by Ted Dog »

Ok tell you another humorous event. Was working on site for a Banking related company due to a cluster of inbound attacks and probes, average level stuff just plain boring. Till about week 5. Got a probe without much of a target, seemed even below need to document, until I routinely checked actual IP range sent, which never gets transmitted since its the joke or dumb range assigned to off world geography.
Ok that is not hard to spoof but due to its use as the testing firewalls and routers never see it in passed outside of a testing LAN. Other clues gave me a idea of distance traveled. So I expected it was a new and expanding router worm, which was called in to immediately knock off line. Attack dropped off wthin a minute. A few weeks later ( same site ) had another call in for agressive attack to knock off line, the guy on other end which never had a two way conversation before related what happen with the router worm. Info lead to a raid and another server on the floor in a empty unused office space. When what was unique, there was an actual physical 'person' at the time of attack, and IP range was assigned to planet MARS.

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#14 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Initial report.
Testing the 32 and 64 bit versions with the 4 series kernels.
Boot medium: multiboot USB thumbdrive
Machine:
HP dual core AMD with 3gb ram.
PITA NVidia graphics.
PITA Atheros Wifi.
Everything works OOTB.
Sound, glx, everything.
Picked up the NVidia "Gallium" driver for 800 fps.
(how did you do that? Kernel driver?)
Firefox and all add ons work flawless.
Aside from the multimedia stuff, which works great, (duh, long time fan/user, no surprise.) this Pup captured this machine OOTB. Best first impression in a long time.
Good work man...
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#15 Post by slavvo67 »

And this is why I do not keep my login info electronically. Of course, I could lose the pad that I write things on but man, better than sending to hundreds of strangers from around the world. We're lucky that at least the community regulars seem to walk a high moral plane. Kudos to Ted Dog! :wink:

Speaking of, no disrespect to your efforts but don't you think $75 is a bit steep? Mind you, I don't do audio editing and I probably would have thrown out up to about $25 just to see how it handled the different boot options.

Also, you may want to offer older versions for free or discounted prices on your website to entice people to purchase the latest and greatest.

Just a few suggestions.

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#16 Post by l0wt3ch »

Well, it did turn out that it was only the password to this forum. And then, only in the beta. So it turned out to be ok. :D

Thanks for the feedback, Puppyluvr!

And thanks for the other comments.

Have you guys seen the "Studio 13.37 - Proud to be Linux" video?

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#17 Post by Ted Dog »

Not that my digital hand didn't get a slap back on one of those events, there is hardware that can not be use to pass traffic thro a major telco. The block is below IP level, and had a level of permanent I haven't seen used before or since.
I was directed to communicate with parent company of that telco and had a bear of a time being tripped up by the device traffic being blocked. Ending up having to visit parent co HQ in person, ( also why I got my last speeding ticket ) The parent co famously imploded ( nothing I did, massive fraud and dot.com burst ) but the ban survived

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#18 Post by Ted Dog »

Just like Guccers hacking of future 'President' Clinton email server, I was laying the groundwork on Iraqi Governments webserver, really Microsoft!!! This is going to be a short war.... idiots! I was busy changing permissions and other methods that would be over looked by someone that used the example password for the secondary administration account left over from a fresh install. While I was busy watching for evidence other where attempting access I noticed the traffic path I was taking was changing first in France then Italy, then eastern Europe, disappeared then Turkey. Then finally pops up someone telling me to stop, answered back No sadam! Not Sadam Stop! Etc. We went back and fourth long enough to adding more now made to be noticed hacks, we where using more and more skills to block each others activities, then It dawn on me it really wasn't a Sadam IT guy I was doing a game of one upmanship with a friendly. But then He noticed I was tracking his traffic back to source, so he becomes untraceable, but he would not just stop messaging me, but last time directly to my machine at home like the game before I expected he would so even with unreturnable message and a empty IP I captured the correct packet to ID his hardware, then returned a message using that, not sure if that was the correct ID since its raw midstream data. But I told him the weather outside since that area has no windows and wished him the best and I was going to bed.

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#19 Post by Ted Dog »

But did he stop ... No he calls me back ( dialup ) somehow got my computer to reconnect and messages me good night, I see you are shutting down, then my machine shutsdown. OH CRAP! I DIDN'T KNOW you could get a hardware killing code on a modem. Quickly rebooted and all good tel my auto connect modem calls out. Line was still live and breathing ( I could hear my breathing amplified via modem speaker ) Pulled modem cable ran outside and removed my line from outside world.

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#20 Post by ciento »

slavvo67 wrote:don't you think $75 is a bit steep? Mind you, I don't do audio editing and I probably would have thrown out up to about $25 just to see how it handled the different boot options..
Hi, pricing is always an interesting question.

Market forces vary with supply and demand. In this case,
there is constant demand for trouble free studio experiences,
but a very small supply of studio quality recording 'gear' that can
record high quality audio, with the computer fan as the only moving part,
(by using a pair or combo of ssd/usbsticks), and even that fan can be eliminated.

A plus for reliability, a small electricity savings, substantial uptime
if desired, with great system speed, while recording
audio without sundry forms of interference. Studio 1337
is in a nice niche, at both price, and capability.

While not 'impulse priced' for a hobbyist, pro quality
audio production is an endeavor not conducive
to impulsive people surviving. Lots to learn, and the more you learn,
the more you want to learn. The sky, and a decent work ethic,
are the limits. Creative freedom can thrive.
There are times when we know or decide that 'time is money',
and save for an important purchase. There are many skills
and man-hours needed to create a working system beyond
a typical apt-get shovelware studio.

When you look at what you can get for the same money,
don't blink, or hold your breath. Look at Apple, they flood their captive expensive
hardware market with low priced software, like Logic,
Mainstage, and iOS things.

Microsoft is flogging anything they can glue a hologram on,
with customers trading or losing their privacy for access
to cheap commodity hardware

Commercial daw makers often have multi-tiered pricing/licensing,
hardware bundles, upgrade paths, rental programs, dongles,
and then hair-raising registration schemes, all trying to
survive piracy and competition. A sizeable learning curve to climb,
before you even slap the plastic, or play a note.

(yeah, I'm pedantic and long winded, but priced accordingly!)

Cheers

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