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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jul 2018, 04:21    Post subject:  

Hi Barry, great you are doing some more stuff on the Raspberry Pi, Quirky / puppy is so much better for it for my needs than any other distro.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2018, 10:00    Post subject:  

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So far, just one problem, the QuickSetup window renders with everything upside-down. That is, the "OK" button is at the top of the window. It is still usable. I do recall this problem from ages ago, but not the solution. QuickSetup uses gtkdialog for the GUI rendering.




If you're having problems with widgets appearing in the reverse order

then read this....

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=974309#974309
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=108945
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Interesting, mac needs a patch too. I consulted with jamesbond, and we came up with a patch that fixes aarch64:

http://bkhome.org/news/201807/fix-widget-order-for-gtkdialog-aarch64.html

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2018, 13:30    Post subject:  

To BarryK

I read in your blog that you are having compiling problems.
Probably not enough RAM.
There are ways to adjust RAM

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt/memory.md


You are having power problems. I had the same problems getting my
raspberry pi3 set up. However ever since I started using
hdmi_safe=1 in my config.txt file it has been very solid. No low power warnings.
The screen size is small but that doesn't matter.
The video buffer is kept in RAM so a small screen size makes sense.


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hdmi_safe Use "safe mode" settings to try to boot with maximum hdmi compatibility. This is the same as the combination of: hdmi_force_hotplug=1, hdmi_ignore_edid=0xa5000080, config_hdmi_boost=4, hdmi_group=2, hdmi_mode=4, disable_overscan=0, overscan_left=24, overscan_right=24, overscan_top=24, overscan_bottom=24

hdmi_safe=1


There is a warning by some experts to NOT use swap memory.
Wears out chip!!!

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=197910
https://www.bitpi.co/2015/02/11/how-to-change-raspberry-pis-swapfile-size-on-rasbian/https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=197910
https://www.bitpi.co/2015/02/11/how-to-change-raspberry-pis-swapfile-size-on-rasbian/

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2018, 13:39    Post subject:  

James bond wrote instructions on how to compile for ARM

http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/FatdogArm/AdoptingFatdogArmForQemu
http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/QemuSap6

Aboriginal Linux

http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/-wiki/FatdogArm/BuildingTheToolChain
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2019, 08:27    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
don570 wrote:
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So far, just one problem, the QuickSetup window renders with everything upside-down. That is, the "OK" button is at the top of the window. It is still usable. I do recall this problem from ages ago, but not the solution. QuickSetup uses gtkdialog for the GUI rendering.




If you're having problems with widgets appearing in the reverse order

then read this....

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=974309#974309
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=108945
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Interesting, mac needs a patch too. I consulted with jamesbond, and we came up with a patch that fixes aarch64:

http://bkhome.org/news/201807/fix-widget-order-for-gtkdialog-aarch64.html
Hi Barry, I just bought another Android box, This one has 4gb of ddr4 and 4k video:) Just wondering if your going to bring out a never version of arm, This android box is light years ahead raspberry pi. https://www.gearbest.com/goods/pp_009258424656.html?lang=en&wid=1433363&utm_source=email_sys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GB_GB_orderCreate_190116 I also bought a 7 port USB hub for it, The nice thing about this hub it has has on/off switches which will be great for my portable hard drives. https://www.gearbest.com/goods/pp_009435833822.html?lang=en&wid=1433363&utm_source=email_sys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GB_GB_orderCreate_190116
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2019, 19:18    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Barry, I just bought another Android box, This one has 4gb of ddr4 and 4k video:) Just wondering if your going to bring out a never version of arm, This android box is light years ahead raspberry pi. https://www.gearbest.com/goods/pp_009258424656.html?lang=en&wid=1433363&utm_source=email_sys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GB_GB_orderCreate_190116 I also bought a 7 port USB hub for it, The nice thing about this hub it has has on/off switches which will be great for my portable hard drives. https://www.gearbest.com/goods/pp_009435833822.html?lang=en&wid=1433363&utm_source=email_sys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GB_GB_orderCreate_190116


Hi ttuuxxx,
That Android box looks great!

I have a 4-port usb3 hub that is independently switchable, and that is very useful. It isn't a powered hub, so limited what I can run through it.

Quirky Linux is retired, doubt whether there will be another release for the Pi.

More recently, I created an EasyOS build for the Pi:

http://bkhome.org/news/201809/easyos-0963-64-bit-on-raspberry-pi.html

The image is for booting on the Pi only. It could be hacked to boot on other boards. I own a Rock64 board, and it has been on my to-do list to build EasyOS for it.

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2019, 19:56    Post subject:  

Raspberry pi 3 download is
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/aarch64/releases/pyro/1.0.2/easy-1.0.2-aarch64.img.gz

The Rock64 board download is
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/aarch64/releases/pyro/1.0.4/easy-1.0.4-aarch64.img.gz
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2019, 21:49    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:
Raspberry pi 3 download is
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/aarch64/releases/pyro/1.0.2/easy-1.0.2-aarch64.img.gz

The Rock64 board download is
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/aarch64/releases/pyro/1.0.4/easy-1.0.4-aarch64.img.gz
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Anyone who want to try the Rock64 build must read the release notes here:

http://bkhome.org/news/201902/easyos-version-104-for-rock64.html

...coz some manual fixes are required.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Feb 2019, 20:17    Post subject:  

Kauler Blog page wrote:
Startup of some apps is slow, SeaMonkey for example. The first time that you get the desktop, the Quick Setup window will display -- tick the checkbox to "Recompress easy.sfs from xz to gz". File easy.sfs has all of Easy and it is xz-compressed for a smaller download. On a PC it is not noticeable, but on the Pi3 app-startup is noticeably slow, compared with gz compression. So, that is one improvement that you can make.



I found Easy too slow to use on my raspberry pi3 B+ model until I did the conversion.
I am using a cheap SD card that certainly isn't class 10.
File menus were to slow to pop up and the file open dialog windows were
unusable.

I suggest that you not use xz compression at all.
Maybe offer a SFS file for the LIBRE apps.

Libre writer takes only 4-5 seconds to launch which is excellent.
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Feb 2019, 20:25    Post subject:  

An interesting thing I found.....

I am using Fatdog64 710 YASSM 2.5 to connect to the server on the
raspberry board.

The field 'Server' is interesting.

I found I could put 'WORKGROUP' in the field (see image)
and then successfully make the connection.
..or I could put 'EASYPC16817'

but I couldn't leave it empty.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2019, 21:50    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:
Kauler Blog page wrote:
Startup of some apps is slow, SeaMonkey for example. The first time that you get the desktop, the Quick Setup window will display -- tick the checkbox to "Recompress easy.sfs from xz to gz". File easy.sfs has all of Easy and it is xz-compressed for a smaller download. On a PC it is not noticeable, but on the Pi3 app-startup is noticeably slow, compared with gz compression. So, that is one improvement that you can make.



I found Easy too slow to use on my raspberry pi3 B+ model until I did the conversion.
I am using a cheap SD card that certainly isn't class 10.
File menus were to slow to pop up and the file open dialog windows were
unusable.

I suggest that you not use xz compression at all.
Maybe offer a SFS file for the LIBRE apps.

Libre writer takes only 4-5 seconds to launch which is excellent.
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I was wondering what difference it would make if easy.sfs was changed to NO COMPRESSION.

The one that gets loaded at bootup is /mnt/wkg/sfs/easyos/oe/pyro/easy_1.0.2_amd64.sfs and if the sd card is big enough, this could be done.

The thing is though, you can't do it when running on the Pi, would have to copy it somewhere else, while running on the PC, then perform the operation. If interested in trying this, you would need to look at the mksquashfs man page to see how to build the .sfs without compression.

It would be big, which counts against doing it. But, it would be interesting exercise to find out if it is faster, or slower.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2019, 14:08    Post subject:  

To BarryK:

32 gigaByte SD cards cost little now so the problem is the download size
albeit class 10 are still pricey. If you could give the command to convert easy.sfs to a bigger size
then most people could do it on their home computer while preparing the card.

By the way raspberry pi only has one thread .
I saw 'multithread conversion' method on my screen message.

man page of mksquashfs

Quote:

-processors NUMBER
Use NUMBER processors. By default will use number of processors available.
Miscellaneous options
-root-owned
alternative name for -all-root.

-noInodeCompression
alternative name for -noI.

-noDataCompression
alternative name for -noD.

-noFragmentCompression
alternative name for -noF.

-noXattrCompression
alternative name for -noX.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2019, 14:33    Post subject:  

I tracked down the instructions to unsquash and squash in fatdogarm
http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/FatdogArm/AdoptingFatdogArm
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Customising FatdogArm (the old way)
The old way of customising/adopting FatdogArm is similar to the above: one would still need to prepare a bootloader, a kernel, a kernel modules, and modify the initrd. The only difference is on how to prepare fd-arm.sfs - instead of building fd-arm.sfs from scratch using FatdogArm's meta-distribution, one uses and modifies an existing fd-arm.sfs from an existing FatdogArm image.

Get the fd-arm.sfs from the disk image as explained previously.
Extract the fd-arm.sfs by issuing this command.
It will create a new directory called squashfs-root containing all the files inside fd-arm.sfs in the current directory.
unsquashfs fd-arm.sfs
Add/remove packages as needed.
When you do this you must be inside the squashfs-root; thus the commands below is always preceeded by cd squashfs-root.
Adding a package:
( cd squashfs-root; ROOT=$(pwd) sbin/installpkg /path/to/your/package.tbz )
Remove package:
( cd squashfs-root; ROOT=$(pwd) sbin/removepkg name-of-package-to-remove )
Modify other files/scripts/configuration files as needed.
Re-pack (re-generate) the sfs by issuing this command:
mksquashfs squashfs-root fd-arm.sfs -comp xz -Xbcj arm -noappend
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2019, 17:07    Post subject:  

The problem appears to be the xz compression since the distro
boots up quickly in gz compression.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Apr 2019, 03:39    Post subject:  

After having been busy with other things, I came back to the forum a few days ago to catch up and see what was new. Having arrived at this thread I found I had two new builds of Easy for RPi3 to play with - which of course I did.

Perhaps the most important comment is that both builds lived up to the name in that they were very easy to install and the first run sequences executed flawlessly. Perhaps I should confess that in both cases, after install on the micro-SD and before first run, I edited the config.txt file to add a display_rotate=3 command to cater for my portrait mode screen.

I only played around with Easy-0.9.6.3 for a couple of hours. It quickly became apparent that some of the built in applications had problems and were not in full working order. So I moved on to Easy-1.0.2. I liked the new system for specifying keyboard layout. That's an improvement. But again it soon became apparent that some of the problems with applications had been carried forward. Applications that crashed, applications that stopped responding and could only be stopped with the kill function. So neither of these builds form the basis for developing a system for daily use. But that's probably not the point.

The important thing is that Easy proved to be robust and carried on working perfectly even when some of the applications it was running repeatedly fell over. A stable OS.

There is probably no point commenting on how specific applications failed. These same problems may have been apparent in builds for other architectures and since Easy is now on version 1.0.14, they may have been long since fixed. The essential single sentence feedback is: it was easy to install and remained stable. That's a good starting point. And when Easy has reached a suitable level of maturity I hope we get another build for RPi3 (and perhaps RPi2 as well).

Some trivia to finish with.

The built in copy of Audacious in version 1.0.2 worked very well - but the sound quality was off. I got a nasty 'whistle' with my music which my ears did not like. This problem is certainly not present in the QX814 build.

I was pleased to see FFconvert make an appearance in version 1.0.2 but that made the absence of ffplay all the more surprising. I thought the addition of ffplay to QX814 was very successful.
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