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musher0


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Dec 2016, 12:06    Post subject:  

Hello all.

Please find attached a special edition of pekwm-1.17.
https://www.pekwm.org

Compiled expressly on and for the Puduan-6 Puppy, it sports:
-- the xprop utility above

-- about 15 themes, including the ones prepared for the Akita Puppy
__ by Scott Jarvis

-- an entirely new pekwm menu creator, which takes less than 3 seconds
__ to process approx. 230 entries. (See Note in 2nd post down.)

-- dynamic date and time in the menu, which calls a monthly calendar

-- script to I.D. the theme currently in use

-- a "Show desktop" off-and-on type entry in the pekwm submenu
__ (simillar to what icewm and jwm have), by "kittykatt". Wmctrl required.

-- the "Growl" Puppy Security Enhancements by Lobster

-- an exit script with numerous options, including starting a new session
__ with jwm

-- a small table explaining briefly the pekwm combo keys

-- a few docs presenting an overview of various pekwm features.

Not included:
-- type "pekwm urukrama" in any search engine to discover all kinds of
__ tips about pekwm
-- there are 190 pekwm themes as of this writing at box-look.org.

Any pekwm questions not answered in other resources, please ask in
the pekwm thread rather than here. TIA.

To reassemble the four attached files, open a terminal in the directory
where you downloaded them, and type:
Code:
cat pekwm-1.17-a?.gz > pekwm-1.17.pet
You will then be able to install the reconstituted pet archive as usual.

I hope you will enjoy what's probably one of the world's best window
manager ! Very Happy BFN.
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Dec 2016, 00:45    Post subject:  

Hello again all.

To show pekwm's versatility, here is another screen cap of this special-
edition pekwm, with the new Case theme
https://www.box-look.org/p/1018044, showing:
-- the pekwm menu creator / refresh entry in the pekwm submenu
-- midnight commander
-- a separate xload window and
-- transparent bmpanel2 with Light-T theme at bottom. (bmpanel2 thread)

BFN.
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Dec 2016, 04:18    Post subject:
Subject description: In defense of common sense.
 

Note about the new pekwm menu creator

Hello again all.

I just realized that the new pekwm menu creator was not picking up the
data in the mtpaint.desktop and the OpenOfficeDraw.desktop files.

The script is not at fault; its logic is sound. To correct this open the
program's desktop files and add the word > Graphics < on the
"Categories" line.

Ex. for mtpaint:
before:
Quote:
Categories=Raster
after:
Quote:
Categories=Graphics;Raster
(Note the semi-colon.)

After you've made the edit, refresh and reload your pekwm menu.

~~~
High-level developers sometimes use fanciful metonyms or synecdoches
(q.v. both terms in wikipedia) to classify their program!

Which means that they use a part to define the whole. It's not wrong to
use such techniques -- if you're a poet or a novelist! But I definitely have
strong reservations about a computer specialist using these "literary
devices" to fill in the Categories line in a *.desktop file.

So users and ground-level developers such as myself have to go back to
common-sense and provide the actual specifics.

Also doesn't help the fact that the freedesktop.org categories are
suggestions, not a mandatory standard.
Ref.:
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
Sometimes the definition given on the Categories line in the desktop files
feels like a carnival.

Next time this happens in the pekwm menu or elsewhere, though, you'll
now know where to look to correct the problem: in the application's
*.desktop file, using good old common sense.

IHTH.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2017, 01:46    Post subject:  

Hello.

If using frugal install and save-folder, everything should stay in there, or not?
Like having around ten different folders for example.. with different wm's, setups etc.

Some doupts about "forced" settings:
-rox, filer window layout should accept new setting from "Options" window
-gtkrc, rox bg may be more of a theme thing ... Confused
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2017, 13:53    Post subject:  

torm wrote:
Hello.

If using frugal install and save-folder, everything should stay in there, or not?
Like having around ten different folders for example.. with different wm's, setups etc.

Some doupts about "forced" settings:
-rox, filer window layout should accept new setting from "Options" window
-gtkrc, rox bg may be more of a theme thing ... Confused

Hi torm.

Yes everything should stay where you originally put it. I myself prefer
using savefiles rather than save-folders. I find savefiles less confusing to
manage.

Not sure what you mean by "forced settings", but yes ROX should accept
your personal / customized options in the Options window. Just remember
to click ok or validate when finished. (It's the button at bottom right of
that panel.)

Puppy has entries in the menu -- in the "Desktop" sub-menu -- for
selecting:
-- gtk themes : look for "GTK/Qt chtheme" in the menu;
-- backgrounds : look for an entry with the word "wallpaper" in it.

Backgrounds can also be changed by
-- right-clicking on any ROX desktop icon (NOT the icons in a ROX panel), then

-- in the scroll-down menu that shows up, click on the 2nd entry from the
bottom (called "change backdrop"). A "big rectangular box" will be
displayed.

Then open your /usr/share/backgrounds directory, highlight the entry in
the list for the picture you want as wallpaper and drag it in the big
"rectangle box".

At the top of that box you also have a choice of center, resize, stretch
and tile for your picture. If unsure try them all? (You tick the effect that
you want.)

When satisfied with the result, close this "rectangle" by clicking the "close"
button, and it's done.

IHTH. (Abbr. for "I hope this helps.") Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jan 2017, 02:03    Post subject:  

These little archives tend to pop out of folder
so when using multiple savefolders, will it (not) make a mess?

Try to arrange folder icons in /root "from left to right"
using ROX "Options" then save, close the window, re-open?
Well..
Using ROX menu one can rearrange icons, then "Save current settings for this window".
Most likely.. also the reason why "Options" don't work for that matter.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jan 2017, 06:48    Post subject:  

Just to bump it up a little.. Wink

Screeny misses xwd or something..

Rox bookmarks -better empty than dead links.

Green icon on rox pinboard (lower-right) that
directs to /root/my-applicatins/bin/kbmpanel2.sh ??

A little out of topic..
Interesting, how do I get the DVB-T to play with this Gnome thing? Rolling Eyes
h264 MPEG-4 AVC
with:
DVB subtitles (dvbs)
audio language preset
programme guide
channel switching across different freq
recording (live and/or sheduled from EPG)
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jan 2017, 07:46    Post subject:  

Hello torm.

These "little archives" ? If you mean save folders, please ask someone
who uses them.

Puppy was originally designed to work with pupsave files, and they are
still the best way to get the most out of your Puppy. Save folders was a
concession to God knows who, and I always disagreed with the concept.
If you say they spill all over one another, then they do.

But pupsave files can never spill onto one another, they're inside each
their own container. So use pupsave files instead of save folders?

About your screen capture problem, the latest version (1.13) of "Take-a-
Shot" is working fine for me:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=686939&sort=lastpost#686939

About DVB-T, perhaps ask the multimedia crowd in the multimedia
section of this forum. I never used them myself.

Gnome "thing" ? You certainly could enrich your vocabulary! Wink Wink
If you mean gnome-mplayer, may I suggest you open a terminal and type
Code:
man gnome-mplayer
for instructions or go to
https://code.google.com/archive/p/gnome-mplayer

Finally,
-- the "green icon" calls a script that toggles on or off the bmpanel2 which
you see (or not! It's a toggle!) across the bottom of the screen.

-- ROX-filer options have always worked for me. As I said before, you
need to hit the save button at bottom rigth of the Options panel once
you've changed your options. If you don't, well... tough!!! Twisted Evil

IHTH

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Feb 2017, 20:57    Post subject:  

Hello everyone.

Please find attached grep-3.0, publ. 2017-02-10.

The manual is here. The announcement and a review for this version
can be found at softpedia.

I compiled it from the source available here: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/grep
(bottom of page) for this Puduan Jessie Pup (glibc 2.19). It won't work on
Pups with lesser glibc versions. There's nothing wrong with treating your
fans to a little exclusivity, eh?! Smile

This utility is presented in the traditional Puppy fashion, with exec, NLS
and DOC pet archives. You only need the exec pet to run it, but if you
want to run grep with your country's locale, you will need to download the
NLS pet as well. This pet contains 43 languages. The DOC pet contains
only the info file, the man file being included in the exec archive.

Finally, for the skeptics, grep's ChangeLog since 2009 is attached. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Feb 2017, 13:29    Post subject:
Subject description: Joe's Own Editor, version 4.4, released Jan. 22, 2017.
 

Hello again all.

Here's another exclusive for our friends: the JOE editor, v. 4.4, the latest
as of this writing. Compiled on this Puduan 6 Pup, so the same remarks
apply as for the grep-3.0 compilation described in the post above.

For those of you who may not know this great text editor, there's quite
a good article at LinuxInsider.

For more info generally about JOE:
url]http://www.ask.com/web?qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir&q=Joe's+Own+Editor&qo=serpSearchTopBox[/url]

The interest of having an editor like JOE as a tool on your Puppy system
is that it can be called both from the command line and from your WM
menu as a window (please see illustration attached).

Once you're accustomed to JOE's key combos, you can use it in both
environments quite efficiently. This way, you can even use it if you're
stuck at the initial black console and need to modify something in a script.

You can use it to compose a program in bash or several other languages,
as well as to whip up the text of an e-mail for your club members.

It's so evolved as an editor that it even has a quick "math service" line if
you need one! But please read some of the reviews mentioned above:
they'll explain JOE's features much better than I could.

Any constructive feedback about this compilation and pet archive is
welcome, of course.

Enjoy!

~~~~~~~~~~~
Various Notes --
1) The help panel shown in the illustration below is activated by typing
Cntrl-K-H, and the text features panel is activated by typing Cntrl-T.

2) The DOC archive contains a menu item that when clicked will bring up
joe's three (3) docs in your html viewer (such as dillo or links2).

3) In WM use, a small console will show up next to the main joe window.
It's meant to help you do file management or change directories easily
without disturbing your writing in joe.

4) To reassemble the 2 parts of the pet of the JOE exec attached below,
please open a terminal in your download directory and type
Code:
cat xa* > joe-4.4_exec.pet
petget joe-4.4_exec.pet
Or cliick on the re-assembled pet from within a ROX-Filer panel to install it.

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2017, 03:43    Post subject:  

Hello all.

curl v. 7.53.0 out the day before yesterday, 22 Febr. 2017. So... please find
attached! Nothing but the best and most recent for our fans! Smile

To reassemble the pet, open a terminal in the download directory and type
Code:
cat xa*curl* > curl-7.53.0_exec.pet
To install:
Code:
petget curl-7.53.0_exec.pet

The Linux From Scratch site suggests that the docs in the curl source file
be included in the build. I decided against it because it would have made
the package much heavier, AND the curl developers are already providing
an excellent reference book in pdf format called Everything Curl, which
you can download or read here: https://curl.haxx.se.

As usual, any constructive feedback is welcome.

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2017, 09:58    Post subject:  

a hungarian puduan remaster has been produced by pfeco (pfranz) over at the hungarian puppy site

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_MokshaPup

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2017, 12:03    Post subject:  

ally wrote:
a hungarian puduan remaster has been produced by pfeco (pfranz) over at the hungarian puppy site

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_MokshaPup

Smile
Thanks for the info ally!

Also at http://skamilinux.hu/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72&p=4765#p4765
one can read:
Quote:
puduan 6.0.0 (by musher0) noPAE - kernel 4.5.5 32bit (by stemsee)
I'm flattered!

So this Moksha Pup is using this Puduan 6 as a base, a 4.5.5 kernel
prepared by StemSee and jwm with enligthenment themes. (AFAICT,
since I don't know Hungarian.)

Bravo, pfeco!

Long Live Puppy, long live Puduan, long live Moksha!

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Mar 2017, 04:34    Post subject: here are professionnal testers  

here are professionnal testers, the hungarian Puppy Linux team !
Seen on Facebook skamilinux site (friends of mine)
It's a hard work to develop, join your forces.. Developers are a lot...
Users will not test everyone.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 05:29    Post subject: Installing hungarian version of puduan, Moksha
Subject description: just to take a glance
 

Installing hungarian version of puduan, just to take a glance, just to taste, not to test. Released inormation received in my Google drive and Facebook.
Hungarian team makes Puppies promotion whatever the country, so we have to be grateful and at least take a glance. We could try they hungarian Puppies, native from there, but they are generally big, too big for me.
Alpha versions should remain available only for testers... Smile that is not true !
222 MB kernel 4.5.5 cooked. A table !
Ally, wait a little, sometimes puppy-makers don't want to hurry, and keep their Puppy alpha under control... I leave, i will post in hungarian S-kami section. English accepted. French no. Here are the borders between Puppies in Europe.
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