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X-Slacko Slim 4.4r23 (unique, stable, and flexible)
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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 08:06    Post subject:  

Alleluhia!
Just the weird setup menu, now:
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No running instance of xfce-panel was found
Oh yes it was!
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execute
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The notification area lost selection


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Processing, please wait..
the constant, but unwanted, companion.

Otherwise, mostly everything is working. Not bad for a 164Mb .iso. Well done, misty. Notwithstanding, far too many menu entries and options.Probably could cut it to below 100Mb and include non-routine items in a PPM? Would make it even more attractive!

Permit me a few personal observations. This is an .iso run initially from the liveCD. If you want any type of installed version, better to provide an .img file like BK seems to prefer now? The recent fiasco of 'missing' .sfs illustrates a number of considerations. Firstly, look at the number of postings complaining that it 'won't run'. Note the length of time those correspondents so reporting have been around on this forum! Old lags have often been around the system extensively - if they say it 'doesn't work' - it doesn't work! If someone persistently says it doesn't work and there are only a couple saying so, it's because the silent majority can't be bothered, gave up and/or lost interest. Make sure offerings are extensively tested on as many machines as possible. Try to avoid Intel, they belong to the WIntel cartel beloved of the US DoJ, inter alia!
If you're developing a worthwhile project like this, stick at it until everyone wants it and nobody is saying 'it doesn't work'!
Best Regards & thanks.
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step

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 09:53    Post subject:  

Thank you, mistfire! Just so as you know it, when I run Slim in a QEMU box on Fatdog64-721, the virtual mouse pointer is jumpy and doesn't always follow the real mouse pointer.
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mistfire

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 06:08    Post subject:  

@Sage good to know that it finally boot on your machine. That bug that you encountered was a weird one. I already encountered that many times. But when I rebooted it. The xfce starts normally. But dont worry I wil track that bug and fix that. Right now I'm making some adjustments on the init script to make it compact, reliable, less bugs, and very easy to troubleshoot.

Since that that X-Slacko Slim on your machine. Can you please send me the puppyboot.log located at /tmp?

@Step As of now I suggest to make some tweaks on your qemu vm. Also check out the cpu usage of your qemu program. Also enable qemu acceleration and AMD-V/Intel VTx feature on your computer (if supported)
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mistfire

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 19:41    Post subject:  

Thanks Sage for the log file that you sent. I finally traced the weird bug that you encountered. It was on the quicksetup script. Im trying to revise that script
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step

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 17:56    Post subject:  

mistfire wrote:

@Step As of now I suggest to make some tweaks on your qemu vm. Also check out the cpu usage of your qemu program. Also enable qemu acceleration and AMD-V/Intel VTx feature on your computer (if supported)
OK, thank you. I did a few more tests and CPU usage isn't a problem. I used QEMU to run several other different puppies based on Precise, Tahr Puppy, X-Slacko, (also Fatdog, DebianDog). The mouse mis-behaves only in X-Slacko Slim.
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 21:35    Post subject:  

Is this Slacko gonna run on 2008 BIOS?
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mistfire

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 21:42    Post subject:  

@Step try to run xorgwizard from command line. Then select fbdev as xorg driver then run X. If failed then try to Load xorg conf. Select xorg-uefi-failsafe conf file

@Kuman yes it will run on that BIOS
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mistfire

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2018, 01:28    Post subject:  

New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

* Fixes on initrd
* Some fix on quicksetup
* Pburn: Improved interface


Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kk3gx59RRXhP_35vtI9nBkO4rI94Z96D
MD5 checksum: 577dd5bf405d9d089d9e572e86750d40
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Sage

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2018, 11:37    Post subject:  

Still going well is r9. Xorg took a while to start up, but got there. Would improve if dhcp was on auto-start - that's probably what most folks have.
Sticking with compact 32bit is a smart move. These days, world+dog has plenty of storage, plenty of mem and loadsa mips - enough to run dozens of the 64bit majors simultaneously in virtuals. Keeping old kit on the road saves landfill and yields a rosier intellectual glow!
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 01:37    Post subject: To mistfire  

I installed it on a usb stick. it runs fine.

Now:
How do u run Firefox i this Slacko?
I unzipped it in /root. Then the exe file doesn't start it ...
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 20:35    Post subject:  

Hi Kuman11,

It's important to remember that (a) you are running Linux and (b) when asking questions to make sure you've used the right terms. "exe" -- is the executable for Windows. Either you've downloaded the wrong file -- one which runs under windows-- or you've used the wrong term.

The best place to look for applications to add to your Puppy is the Additional Software SubSection. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=63. Its Categories are almost like those appearing on your Puppy's Menu. The second best place is to use the Puppy Package Manager which is built into your Puppy. Among the reasons the Additional Software is better than PPM is that the publisher of the Application has already figured out what dependencies (which may be offered by PPM) are necessary. And users have reported any problems and (hopefully) the publisher of the app or someone has solved them.

There is a firefox which you just download and unpack. It's Firefox Quantum Portable published by fredx181. You'll find it here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=978010#978010. There are versions for both 32-bit and 64-bit Operating systems. I've run them under several Puppies built from 'Ubuntu' binaries. After its unpacked, they run by left-clicking the script named 'ff' you should see right away.

I haven't tried them under a Slackware based Puppy. Sometimes Web-browsers for "Slacko's" need additional files. But lets worry about that if it doesn't run. Download and try it. If there's a problem, report it on the "Firefox Quantum Portable" thread,

Once its working, for convenience, you can drag "ff" file to your desktop. That will create a symbolic link to it. You'll find a nice icon in the "Browser/Icon" folder, part of the package. Copy it to /usr/share/icons, leave that window open, right-click the "ff" on your desktop, select "Set Icon" and drag the icon into the window which opens.

Or you can modify and use the attached pet. I keep all my linux portables in a folder on /mnt/home named Pup-Apps and I renamed the unpacked firefox folder "firefox58". The attached pet consists of only three files, the icon and a desktop file (it creates a menu entry) at /usr/share/applications and an executable at /root/my-applications/bin So, the executory argument in that file reads
exec /mnt/home/Pup-Apps/firefox58/ff "$@"

If, like yours, the firefox folder was just on /mnt/home --where you unpacked the download
and you didn't rename the folder so it still only read "firefox", you'd edit the Exec line to read

exec /mnt/home/firefox/ff "$@"

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kuman11

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Feb 2018, 02:39    Post subject:  

hi mikeslr,

I've used the wrong term. It seems there's no /mnt/home folder in this Slacko. I run it w/o a save file which I'd prefer doing in the future. Not sure if that might be the reason. So I extracted it in /root instead. Then upon trying to exec the 'ff' file it couldn't start Firefox Quantum 58.02 ... Simply it didn't initiate it.
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Feb 2018, 15:49    Post subject:  

Hi kuman11,

Make sure you have the right version for your system. I think X-Slacko Slim is 32 bit.

If so, it may need this fix: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982503#982503.

Edited: As you're working without a SaveFile/Folder, you're correct you wouldn't have a /mnt/home. By the same token, unless you've done a Full Install, you can't put it in /root. In a frugal install, /root is in RAM and as soon as you reboot/shutdown, the firefox folder will be cleared from memory. You can put it on any drive/partition. But you'll first have to mount the drive to access the firefox folder and execute the "ff" script. You may have to open a terminal and enter the full-path to "ff" to execute it, e.g.:

/mnt/sda1/firefox/ff

ff probably already has its permissions set to executable, but check: Right-Click >Properties and make certain the Exec box for "World" is checked. You only have to do that once.

There's a reason most of us use a SaveFile/Folder even if we remaster to include almost everything we want. This firefox is portable and self-contained. The latter means your profile (settings, addons, bookmarks) are written to the folder rather than, say, to /root/.mozilla. Even a 32 Mb SaveFile would be more than sufficient to create a permanent link to the "ff" script if the firefox folder were on the same partition as the SaveFile. [The link would be less than 1 Mb, but I don't know if you can create less than a 32 Mb SaveFile without employing some bash command that I haven't memorized]. Remastering in order to include the folder somewhere within "Puppy Space" would result in more memory always being used, even when firefox wasn't open.

If nothing works, asks on the Firefox Quantum thread: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=978010#978010. Make sure you mention that you're running X-Slacko. Older versions of firefox 'built for 'Ubuntu/Debians' used to require dbus to work on Slackos. I don't think this is still the case. But, I'm guessing. Best to ask.

Edit: Alternatively, you might try peebee's firefox (or other web-browsers) available here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/LxPupSc/browsers/

These were constructed to run under lxpupsc -- hence, a Slacko derivative. As SFSes, you can Menu>Setup>Sfs load (on the fly) once the partition they're on is mounted even without a SaveFile/Folder. i don't know if bootmanager will load them on bootup without a SaveFile/Folder. And built for lxpup, I'm not sure if something else must exist for them to work under other OSes. They are also not self-contained, ordinarily preserving bookmarks etc. in /root. See above.

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mistfire

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 04:43    Post subject:  

New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:
* Progress bar when copying large files (init process)
* GUI overhaul. All builtin apps are now optimized to work on 640x480 screen.
* Global static IP assignment on a specific NIC interface regardless what network connection tool is used. When the computer restarts with savefile loaded. It remembers the static IP address assigned.
* With scanner share for sharing scanner on LAN.
* Some bugfixes

Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nuPVi3vOcNrHZ1gbpAYzyhaVJFSHnCay
MD5 checksum: 962b8d8008547f622ee7b872fc82d4e8
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 10:23    Post subject: VOB files  

Which one of the media players in Slackware 14.1 repository can play VOB files?
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