X-Slacko Slim 4.4r49 (unique, stable, and flexible)

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step · #441 Post by **step** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 07:21

@mistfire, fyi r33 and r34 didn't boot in Qemu, they stopped at modprobe. r31 and r38 boot fine in Qemu.

Sage · #442 Post by **Sage** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 07:54

Don't worry, misty, been using it since you released it and haven't found a single problem yet. Some folks want to loop-de-loop, not understanding the power of a super-slim distro, ideally deployed as a live-CD for diagnostics and untraceable (ipso facto unsaved!) browsing, inter alia. Carry on regardless...

Pelo · #443 Post by **Pelo** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 08:29

We will take the time to explain new comers, won't we.. ? X-Xlacko Slim works well for me too (r38 not yet launched).
Savefile from r37 to r38, first point to check for belham2
Ignoring savefiles was existing on a french puppy too..
I will launch r38 soon, this afternoon i think. I will use and old pupsave to check.

belham2 · #444 Post by **belham2** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 10:58

mistfire wrote:@belham2 very strange indeed. on r38 I just revised only xorgwizard script, xinitrc, logout_gui, and shutdowngui. I wonder why savefile and init script is affected. But r38 works fine on my real computer and also in virtualbox.

What filesystem did you use on frugal install?

Hi Mistfire,

Installed on EXT4. All frugal installed attempts. At random times, if there is any attempt to backup any Savefile created in r38, the system just crashes itself and attempts to wipe that savefile from existence. Had another Linux prgrammer friend look at it, and he encountered the same problem. Just start pulling your frugal install savefiles around, from inside r38, and you'll see what happens. Unlike some others here, who attempt to make others believe the world is flat because everything they offer an opinion on is 'flat' to their self-ruled world, there are problems and they are being reproduced.

Noticeably, if you take a known, good working r37 savefile from a frugally install, and drop in r38's vmlinuz, initrd.gz & puppy_xslacko_4.2.sfs, r38 will boot and ignores about 50% of what is in the r37 savefile. Then, if you re-set that 50% and correct it back to what existed before, save it in the now r38-controlled savefile, and next attempt to backup that r38-controlled savefile on another thumbdrive, partition and/or device, r38 just randonly goes off-kilter and, a few times, eventually nearly destroys the newly created savefile. Thankfully, it is easy to keep the old r37 savefile intact through backups and reset things back in the stable r37.

Something changed from r37 to r38. Now that I know another more-experienced 'flat-earther' had the exact same problems happen to him in trying to setup r38, it is a bit hard to ignore it

Doesn't matter: for now I'll stick to r37, it works great and is stable, and can handle the many duties I put it through while it's frugally installed on different devices (currently: an old IDE hd, usb and two sdcards).

step · #445 Post by **step** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 13:59

I have absolutely no idea of why that happens to belham2's save file, but when I read it a thought crossed my mind regarding a similar experience I had with another puppy. Instead of trashing the save file at random, something chopped the save dir at random. The culprit turned out to be a bad kernel in combination with the file system (f2fs) on the USB key. Changing the kernel to a more stable version, and formatting the USB key with ext4 stopped the problem.
I don't mean to suggest that this is exactly the problem in belham2's case.

Billtoo · #446 Post by **Billtoo** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 16:04

I did a manual frugal install to my Lenovo desktop.

System: Host: Puppy-PC Kernel: 3.14.56 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.3.2
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: MJ01509
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: INVALID BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2003/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 123x43 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 328.1GB (4.4% used)
Weather: Conditions: 25 F (-4 C) - Overcast Time: February 11, 10:55 AM EST
Info: Processes: 121 Uptime: 7 min Memory: 153.5/3924.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

I'm not concerned about keeping it small so I added stuff with PPM,pets,and compiled some.

No problems so far.
Thanks.

Pelo · #447 Post by **Pelo** » Sat 11 Feb 2017, 18:40

X-Slacko slim version 38 lancée without trouble. Reboot, pupsave loaded without a bug..
I search a driver for Kernel 3.14.56 RTL8192CU for my wireless dongle.. for X-Slacko slim..
That will get my connexion much better.. Anybody knows ?

mistfire · #448 Post by **mistfire** » Sun 12 Feb 2017, 11:30

New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:
* New quicksetup
* Bugfixes on xorgwizard GUI

Download link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... mJzcl8xdTg
MD5 checksum: d73e407efcc4b6d57db1639a73e75481

mistfire · #449 Post by **mistfire** » Sun 12 Feb 2017, 13:13

Hi Mistfire,

Installed on EXT4. All frugal installed attempts. At random times, if there is any attempt to backup any Savefile created in r38, the system just crashes itself and attempts to wipe that savefile from existence. Had another Linux prgrammer friend look at it, and he encountered the same problem. Just start pulling your frugal install savefiles around, from inside r38, and you'll see what happens. Unlike some others here, who attempt to make others believe the world is flat because everything they offer an opinion on is 'flat' to their self-ruled world, there are problems and they are being reproduced.

Noticeably, if you take a known, good working r37 savefile from a frugally install, and drop in r38's vmlinuz, initrd.gz & puppy_xslacko_4.2.sfs, r38 will boot and ignores about 50% of what is in the r37 savefile. Then, if you re-set that 50% and correct it back to what existed before, save it in the now r38-controlled savefile, and next attempt to backup that r38-controlled savefile on another thumbdrive, partition and/or device, r38 just randonly goes off-kilter and, a few times, eventually nearly destroys the newly created savefile. Thankfully, it is easy to keep the old r37 savefile intact through backups and reset things back in the stable r37.

Something changed from r37 to r38. Now that I know another more-experienced 'flat-earther' had the exact same problems happen to him in trying to setup r38, it is a bit hard to ignore it

Doesn't matter: for now I'll stick to r37, it works great and is stable, and can handle the many duties I put it through while it's frugally installed on different devices (currently: an old IDE hd, usb and two sdcards).

Can you please test the r39 version which I released today?

Sage · #450 Post by **Sage** » Sun 12 Feb 2017, 13:59

r39: Truncated QuickSetup less comprehensive. If 'Execute' is pressed, 'Processing, please wait' never completes. Otherwise OK!

mistfire · #451 Post by **mistfire** » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 00:56

@Sage quicksetup is not truncated. I changed the GUI layouts (tabbed) only to make it more friendly on smaller screens. The original quicksetup is good but not small screen friendly. On executing "processing. please wait" what settings did you set in on quicksetup?

Any ideas or approach to the GUI layout design of quicksetup?

Sage · #452 Post by **Sage** » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 07:29

Yes, I see the tabs, but the 'firewall' and one other item (?which? - haven't got regular machine running today) are not shown in tabs. Why the sudden concern for small screens? Nothing set in Quickset that influences anything else, just clicked 'Execute' instead of other option (the one to the left - can't remember - was it 'cancel'? or something like that??).
If it ain't broke..., or One step forward & co. - back to 38.

mistfire · #453 Post by **mistfire** » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 09:50

Sage wrote:Why the sudden concern for small screens?

From the beginning of this thread I have concern for small screens. So I edit almost all puppy core apps to make it small screen friendly. My reference for small screen was 800x600 resolution.

#454 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 19:07

I'm just running regular slacko but there are always ways of removing a bit of size.
like
libicudata.so.51.2 <--22MB
so I compiled an earlier one
libicudata.so.45.1 <--15MB
7MB saving in one compile.
When I packaged it, it compressed to 4M
ttuuxxx

mistfire · #455 Post by **mistfire** » Tue 14 Feb 2017, 11:32

@ttuuxxx what does libicudata do? Is it safe to remove from puppy?

#456 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 14 Feb 2017, 14:12

mistfire wrote:@ttuuxxx what does libicudata do? Is it safe to remove from puppy?

Well when puppy was basically English Only we didn't have it, but a few years back we moved to a multilingual distro. Its grown a lot in size. If its removed it will/should break different language support. English will probably work but the rest you might have an issue with. Since usually English is default.
tuuxxx

mistfire · #457 Post by **mistfire** » Tue 14 Feb 2017, 23:25

Link for old versions of x-slacko slim (courtesy of rg66) was in the first post of this thread.

Pelo · #458 Post by **Pelo** » Wed 15 Feb 2017, 06:11

There is an huge difference between down-loaders and forum writers. Beware no to delete language utilities (forum spelling tool propose 'hostilities

) Merci ttuuxxx (gracias)
Don't delete keyboards !
R38 : check files with tree size. I don't see what significant libs could be deleted for lot of MBs.

Volhout · #459 Post by **Volhout** » Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:26

Hi mistfire

Tried R37 on a different machine (with UK keyboard) and noticed that the program "keyboard" in the "all" menu does not offer any alternatives from defaul US keyboard.
The "Mouse and keyboard wizard" in the same menu however did the trick.

Just FYI

Volhout

mistfire · #460 Post by **mistfire** » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 02:44

Hello I need someone to compile a compile linux 4.9.11 kernel for puppy. Too bad a I cant upload today the test release because of internet connection here.

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X-Slacko Slim 4.4r49 (unique, stable, and flexible)

We will take the time to explain new comers, won't we.

X-Slacko Slim 4.2r38 (unique, stable, and flexible)

X-Slacko slim version 38 lancée without trouble.

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