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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 19:19    Post subject:  

Fair enough!

Let me know how you get on with it; I'm always keen to hear about any experimentation with the Chrome/Chromium browsers, as you know.

One thing I am curious about, though.....and that's why you needed to add the '--no-sandbox' switch? Slimmie should be running with almost full sandboxing anyway; the need for that 'switch' has been a necessity with the more recent 32-bit versions, but not the 64s. Confused

(Mind you, I don't know the first thing about the 'Quirkies', I'll own...)

Keep me posted, please.


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2017, 05:39    Post subject:  

*** NEW Version 15.0.3.0 now available***

Morning, all.

The current stable release, 15.0.3.0, is now available for download. These can be found at the usual location in post #2. This includes the newest version of Pepper; 26.0.0.137.

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New stuff in this release:-

https://www.slimjet.com/en/whatisnew.php

NetFlix still working fine....... enjoy! Very Happy

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The previously-mentioned 'silent-launch' feature has been added to /root/Startup; if you look in /root/Startup, you'll find a new script, entitled 'silent_launch_slimjet'. What this effectively does is to launch SlimJet at boot, without 'opening' it; rather along the same lines as how modern Windoze works with hibernation and Fast Startup; it essentially holds it in 'standby-mode' until you launch from either desktop launcher or Menu entry. Upon doing so, it starts almost instantly. Smile

If you don't want to make use of this, or wish to disable it, simply delete it from /root/Startup (or comment out the second line).

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I don't anticipate any problems, but if there are, y'all know where to find me.


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2017, 13:37    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
*** NEW Version 15.0.3.0 now available***

Morning, all.

The current stable release, 15.0.3.0, is now available for download.


Hi Mike,

It seems to be OK so far... I'll let you know if I find any problems.

Thanks for your efforts!

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul 2017, 06:23    Post subject:  

Hi, orrin.

orrin wrote:
Hi Mike,
It seems to be OK so far... I'll let you know if I find any problems.
Thanks for your efforts!


You're welcome, as always, mate.
Enjoy.


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul 2017, 13:50    Post subject:  

Hi Mike,

It looks as if the password save feature is broken in version 15.....

It asks to save the passwords, but does not! the password data from the previous version was wiped out.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 14:49    Post subject:  

Hi ya, Mike!

Have a question...been using the Slimjet 15.0.0.0 sfs and grinning like a kid everytime after startup and before I can release my finger off the mouse after cllicking Slimjet it opens. These blink browser's "silent-launch" thing is pretty incredible Wink . Have a question on your sfs though: every time it opens, it is locked where it opens. I can not increase the window size, drag it any where, or do anything. Have had it happen to me in Quirky and a few other pups. How do I get around this, so I can resize the browser window to what I prefer??

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 17:18    Post subject:  

Hiya, belham2.

Mm. Well, from what comes to the surface after stirring the pint of grey sludge in my skull, I came across the answer to this one recently.

If you're like me, and like as much screen 'real estate' as possible (and from the look of things, you do), then in Settings, under 'Appearance', you probably have 'Use system title bar & borders' unchecked. Apparently, to get control over re-sizing, you have to re-check this, and that hands control back to JWM, or whatever your window manager happens to be.

You should then be able to resize as usual. This is a change from the Chromium team during the last 12 months or so; you used to be able to do this without having that checkbox ticked.....'cos I remember being able to do it myself.

Change is the only constant, old son.....and it's not always for the better.

Like you, I like the 'silent-launch' switch; it's basically running in the background, but minimized.....and all you're really doing when you 'launch' it is simply maximizing it again. That's why it's so fast.....because it's already running.

There's literally hundreds of these 'switches' for controlling various aspects of the Blink engine. If you're curious, the list can be found here.


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 17:29    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
Hiya, belham2.

Mm. Well, from what comes to the surface after stirring the pint of grey sludge in my skull, I came across the answer to this one recently.

If you're like me, and like as much screen 'real estate' as possible, then in Settings, under 'Appearance', you probably have 'Use system title bar & borders' unchecked. Apparently, to get control over re-sizing, you have to re-check this, and that hands control back to JWM, or whatever your window manager happens to be.

You should then be able to resize as usual. This is a change from the Chromium team during the last 12 months or so; you used to be able to do this without having that checkbox ticked.....'cos I remember being able to do it myself.

Change is the only constant, old son.....and it's not always for the better.


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Well I'll be hog-tied & whooped. I saw that in my clicking exploring around Slimjet and thought it couldn't possibly have anything to do with my problem, plus I sort of liked the look that way it was. Boy, someone (a recent green-behind-the-ears grad) thought real long & hard on this one, lol. One step forward, one and half back, haha.

Thanks, Mike!! Works like a charm now. Can't for the life of me understand why Firefox hasn't emulated this "silent-launch" thing? I mean, once people experience it, they like it. I mean really like it. Also, it then sort of gets on your nerves waiting those 2-4 secs for Firefox to load when going back to Mozilla. You feel sort of like the character "Data' in Star Trek Next Generation--", uh, no sir, I'm not bored. I was just re-calculating all the ship's possible orbit paths into & out of this current system while you were taking your few seconds remembering what you wanted to tell me.." Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Aug 2017, 17:57    Post subject:  

@belham2:-

I've added a bit extra to my previous post; you must have posted while I was outside, having a smoke.

You may find it interesting. The 'silent-launch' switch will work also for Chrome, Chromium itself, and Iron. AFAIK, ETP was the first to employ it in Puppy way back in early 2014, when he built the original Chromebook Pup, v.1 (which I used for nearly 2 years). He used it to emulate the wicked start-up speed of Chrome, running in a Chromebook proper.....and put that wee script together to enable it.

Most of the 'switches' are placed on the exec line of the wrapper script that launches 'em.....but that particular one will run as a 'standalone'. And to my mind, it's a cracker.....because it reminds me of why I fell in love with Chrome all those years ago. The start-up (and execution) speed of the original was a real eye-opener after FireFox, but, unfortunately, they've all turned into lumbering supertankers as the years have passed. This helps to put a little bit of the 'zing' back into it..!

The list gives you an insight into just how complex a modern browser really is.....and we all of us just take them for granted.

(*shrug*)


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Aug 2017, 06:18    Post subject: --silent-launch option  

Hi ya Mike,

Have a question that, while not directly puppy-related, refers to linux distros--specifically debian/ubuntu branch. As you know, I like very much the silent option stemsee & you made me aware of with Slimjet. It works great across the puppy-verse---even in Tahrs, Xenials and such.

But when I get up to a larger Linux distro, like Debian 9, or any variety based on it (i.e. the fantastic MX-16 and Bunsenlabs), I cannot get the "--silent-launch" feature to work. Have you ever gotten the the silent-launch feature to work outside the puppy-verse?

I have tried all sorts of mannerisms and entries, from scripts to init.rd to rc.local entries to .config/autostart entries to even creating a Startup folder (which Debian doesn't have). I've tried this all with --no-sandbox and without the --no-sandbox option in the line, even chrooting everything (script and/or folder) if necessary.....and still the doggone silent-launch for Slimjet will not work. Slimjet just starts itself like its Firefox or Chrome or whatever-----which we both know ain't no fun to a silent-launch junkie Sad

So, the $69k question: how to get it to work in bigger linux OSes, because, well, it is Linux after all, so...what are my daily-diminishing brain cells missing here Confused

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Aug 2017, 13:20    Post subject:  

Now then, Master B...

Apart from 8 Puppies, the only other thing I run nowadays is AntiX 16.1. I've been running it for a couple of months now (I wanted to see what all the 'fuss' was about!)

I like it, I really do. The fact that it uses ROX helps enormously (although I've had to go back to moving stuff around via terminal; the one thing I always hated about multi-user systems. They seem designed so that you can't do the simplest thing without f***ing 'sudo' this, 'sudo' that; 'ls', 'cp', 'ln -s', rm', etc...)

Too much like hard work, learning all that crap. I may be the most 'ungeek-like' Linux user out there, but.....Pup's spoilt me, it really has! Very Happy

Anyway; your post has reminded me that because of all the buggering about, setting AntiX up, I'd forgotten all about the silent launch thing. I only use it with Chrome; it works with Slimmie and Iron, but if you have all three set up to start that way, there's around 800 some-odd threads running before you even start doing anything. One out of the three's enough for me.

All I've done is to copy the Chrome version of 'silent-launch' across to AntiX's /etc/init.d, from within Puppy (that way, the permissions are already correct..! There's method in my madness, you know..... Laughing ) I booted into AntiX. let boot settle down, clicked on Chrome.....less than 2 seconds later, it was up-and-running.

So, /etc/init.d would appear to be the place for the script, certainly in AntiX. That being the case, it ought to apply to Debian, too, since 16.1 is based on 'Jessie'. /Etc/init.d is also the place I put an 'auto-mount' script I hacked together for Precise 5.7.1; it doesn't use the later pMount (where it's all done for you), and I've never really got on with Startmount. It seems to run once, correctly, on initial install.....then never runs properly again after that.

Food for thought?


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PostPosted: Sat 19 Aug 2017, 09:26    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:


Food for thought?


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Hi again Mike,

Rejection and dejection city here. Crying or Very sad No joy in Candy Land. Tried 3 different debian-based installs (one is Debian 9 itself), and I could not get "--silent-launch" to work. Dropped the script into "/etc/init.d", made sure permissions were correct, and upon reboot: nada. Took nearly 5-7 secs for Slimjet to startup. Now here's a question, and I am wondering if it is the source of my troubles: I am using the latest slimjet downloaded from their website. Do I need instead to use & unpacked your sfs, and then load it into my Debians, because you "set" the Slimjet flags so this silent-launch would work? If so, what flag is it? I looked at all the flags in Slimjet, and could not find one specifying "activate silent-launch". Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Aug 2017, 23:02    Post subject:  

Hi Mike,

Ignore my post about the non-working password save feature in version 15. For some strange reason, it suddenly started working!

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Aug 2017, 08:42    Post subject:  

Hi, orrin. Ah, good, good. Glad to hear it.

I'll be packaging the newest release pretty soon. For some reason, Flashpeak appear to have changed the numbering scheme; instead of 15.0.5.0 being followed by 15.0.6.0, it's now followed by 15.1.0...

Make of that what you will. It'll be ready for download in the next day or two.


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PostPosted: Sun 20 Aug 2017, 16:28    Post subject:  

*** NEW Version 15.1.0.0 now available***

Evening, kiddiwinks.

The current stable release, 15.1.0.0, is now available for download. These can be found at the usual location in post #2. This includes the newest version of Pepper; 26.0.0.151.

(Flashpeak seem to have abandoned their usual numbering system. The last version was 15.0.5.0, so, naturally, I was expecting this to be 15.0.6.0... Instead, we have 15.1.0.0. (*shrug*) Make of it what you will. Rolling Eyes )

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New stuff in this release:-

https://www.slimjet.com/en/whatisnew.php

NetFlix still working fine....... enjoy! Very Happy

One interesting feature has been added to Slimmie; the ability to video-capture the contents of any given tab, and to save it as a webm video file. It's got possibilities, though at present, if you attempt to access the feature from the main Menu, the browser crashes.....instantly! I suspect there's a few bugs there need attending to.

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The previously-mentioned 'silent-launch' feature has been added to /root/Startup; if you look in /root/Startup, you'll find a new script, entitled 'silent_launch_slimjet'. What this effectively does is to launch SlimJet at boot, without 'opening' it; rather along the same lines as how modern Windoze works with hibernation and Fast Startup; it essentially holds it in 'standby-mode' until you launch from either desktop launcher or Menu entry. Upon doing so, it starts almost instantly. Smile

If you don't want to make use of this, or wish to disable it, simply delete it from /root/Startup (or comment out the second line).

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Any problems, I'm never very far away.


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